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MasterGrim -> Health or Politics (9/8/2009 5:20:22 PM)

Wasn't sure which off-topic forum to post to.

Either way it is not fair..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090908/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_health_care_overhaul

According to this article if you don't have healthcare insurance, you are gonna get fined.

I am one of the unlucky unemployed masses that are too poor to afford it and ineligible for a medical card. So, of course I look forward to more financial issues added to an already bad situation. If I could afford to pay the fine I could more than afford to pay for insurance.

Mr. Obama -- YOUR MOMMA!!!!

Anyone else have any thoughts?





DomKen -> RE: Health or Politics (9/8/2009 6:35:00 PM)

That's the point of the fine. If you are employed and don't choose to get insurance through teh employer or buya plan elsewhere you would pay $3800 in extra taxes to reimburse the government when it winds up footing the bill when you get sick.

If you unemployed or don't make enough to afford insurance it won't affect you at all.




servantforuse -> RE: Health or Politics (9/8/2009 6:39:58 PM)

It's called 'Obama Care'. This is just the start.




thishereboi -> RE: Health or Politics (9/8/2009 7:21:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

That's the point of the fine. If you are employed and don't choose to get insurance through teh employer or buya plan elsewhere you would pay $3800 in extra taxes to reimburse the government when it winds up footing the bill when you get sick.

If you unemployed or don't make enough to afford insurance it won't affect you at all.


And if you don't get sick, do you get your $3800 back? Of course that is the maximum penalty. If I read the article right a family of 4 would have to be making $66,000 to be charged the max. And if you think about it, I am sure that family has lots of extra cash laying around for insurance.




DomKen -> RE: Health or Politics (9/8/2009 9:02:03 PM)

A family of 4 should have insurance if they make 66k per year. If they don't that is a very bad choice and the rest of society shouldn't be on the hook for them when they get sick.




Arpig -> RE: Health or Politics (9/8/2009 9:44:04 PM)

Smiles and lovingly strokes his trusty OHIP card.[:)]




Sanity -> RE: Health or Politics (9/9/2009 3:26:15 AM)


You're OWNED.




wandersalone -> RE: Health or Politics (9/9/2009 4:44:32 AM)

In Australia we get a tax incentive for having private health insurance.  




DarkSteven -> RE: Health or Politics (9/9/2009 6:12:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wandersalone

In Australia we get a tax incentive for having private health insurance.  


Funny, in the arguments in the US, I hear a lot about European health care and Canadian health care but have never heard a peep about health care in Australia, NZ, or any Asian countries.




pahunkboy -> RE: Health or Politics (9/9/2009 11:49:06 AM)

1.   they should get rid of the FDA, and the AMA.
2.  stop all rx ads

but the icing on the cake is   no bid rx contracts on medicare part D.

I view this debate as one insurance group corp against another corp.

It is essentially some big corporations fighting over profit centers.

So - I dont get too upset over it.




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