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Tattoo Question? - 2/26/2006 10:49:39 PM

phoenix1

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Hi friends...
this one is going to be getting her first tattoo soon... she picked a design to go around her ankle... surfing the net, she saw that this design is on a page titled "tribal tattoos".

Are tribal tattoos supposed to have a special meaning, compared to "non-tribal tattoo"?

This one would hate it, if her tattoo was seen by someone and they assumed she belonged to a particular type of people... when she'd have no idea that tribal tattoos actually mean something like that. Thank you for any response(s).

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/26/2006 10:57:12 PM

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Not sure but i googled "tribal tattoo" and lots of links came up that looked worth looking into.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/26/2006 11:08:59 PM

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 12:19:21 AM

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Are tribal tattoos supposed to have a special meaning, compared to "non-tribal tattoo"?

The only real difference is that others may be able to relate to the symbol that is tribal. After all, a tribal symbol has a definition. Those who recognize it and may assume what beliefs you practice or atleast begin to figure you out.

If you're going for a particular symbol, it never hurts to do a little research on the actual tribe or culture. Also, you may want to research how the symbol has been portraid in modern time. After all, my brother who is a Norse Rune Reader, has common sense not to have a swastika banner. Certain gangs and other groups may be using certain ancient symbols for representation. Using a tribal tattoo can cause confusion with some of todays society.

Any how, a symbol is just a symbol and can mean whatever you want it to for you. Having the impression that this is some sort of an ownership tattoo, the two of you may want come up with your own type of symbol or pattern that means something special.

In this experimental picking out stage, I recommend you have the pattern done with henna first. This way you know what a real tattoo would look like on you and it will help you decide if the symbol is really what the two of you want.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 2:06:34 AM

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It just refers to a certain style of tattoo. It doesn't mean you belong to any tribe.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 2:30:20 AM

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I have some great tatts, in fact check my listing in the baby art section.
As a not the lower back is a very erotic and ecstacy filled place to get a tatt.
Celtic Elvin Lezbian Belly Tattoo
Forgotten Underworld Lord
Lord of the Underworld Teared Ruin

These are two of my tatts

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 7:41:03 AM

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As I'm sure tribal tattoos have no actual meaning I am going to give you one piece of advice...

Think before ink.

That's my own saying.

Seriously though. Don't just pick any random design. When I got my Tinkerbell tattoo the artist was like..you know this is permanent? I was like...NO WAY JOSE! I thought I could just wash it off. THEN, he has the audacity to ask me if I want the dress to be a different color other than green because this is permanent and if I don't like green...
I was like...dude, I know it's permanent and if you think of doing any color other than green for her dress, that's the decision that I would regret.

Then I got something I designed myself and my friend drew. I suggest if you go that route, try a bunch of the same design drawn different ways. I got a Scorpio symbol (the M with the devil tail). I added devil horns, a halo and angel wings.
He took apart the design and drew differnt Ms, different devil horns, different halos and different wings. We basically put together the design.

Make sure what you get actually means something to you. Make sure also, that it's not something that isn't...you. If you get something that symbolizes the other person in your life and you split for some reason, you won't want to have that tattoo anymore.
You have to ask yourself this question...if someone asks you why you got a particular design, you have to be able to explain it. You can't be like...I saw it online and thought it was cute, or I picked some flash (design) off the wall of the place.

I got my Tinkerbell because I love faeries. I love anything with wings. I love Disney. Pretty much anything I get has Tinkerbell on it.
I got my other design because I'm a Scorpio. I got that particular design because it shows both sides of a Scorpio.

I plan on getting at least 3 more tattoos. Every tattoo I get will have wings. I want 2 sets of 4 butterflies going up the outside of my left leg, four on the calf, four on the thigh. I want a butterfly with a tiger face in it. I want a half human girl, half scorpion that also has wings (I already have the design) that says ScorpGirl underneath it.

Basically, make sure it's what you really want. They really are permanent.

~Scorp~

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 9:01:04 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

quote:

Are tribal tattoos supposed to have a special meaning, compared to "non-tribal tattoo"?

The only real difference is that others may be able to relate to the symbol that is tribal. After all, a tribal symbol has a definition. Those who recognize it and may assume what beliefs you practice or atleast begin to figure you out.

If you're going for a particular symbol, it never hurts to do a little research on the actual tribe or culture. Also, you may want to research how the symbol has been portraid in modern time. After all, my brother who is a Norse Rune Reader, has common sense not to have a swastika banner. Certain gangs and other groups may be using certain ancient symbols for representation. Using a tribal tattoo can cause confusion with some of todays society.

Any how, a symbol is just a symbol and can mean whatever you want it to for you. Having the impression that this is some sort of an ownership tattoo, the two of you may want come up with your own type of symbol or pattern that means something special.

In this experimental picking out stage, I recommend you have the pattern done with henna first. This way you know what a real tattoo would look like on you and it will help you decide if the symbol is really what the two of you want.

Best of luck

This is very wise advice. Afterall that tat is going to be with you for a LONG TIME.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 9:22:54 AM

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Thanks for you replies, friends. Fangs... the henna tattoo first is such a great idea! I will be doing that, for sure. I've thought about getting a tattoo for many years now, only delayed because I was worried if it will hurt too much.

I'm planning to 'disconnect' while it's being done, so I probably won't feel anything at all. If I'm successful at that, I'll most likely be getting many more tattoos, because I love them!

I did know to make sure the tattoo had personal meaning, but thanks everyone, for reminding me.

Thanks for the links too.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 9:24:19 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

It just refers to a certain style of tattoo. It doesn't mean you belong to any tribe.

*sticking a gold star on your forehead...
very good.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 9:29:37 AM

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Very good advice has been offered thus far, especially the henna idea. i would personally never have thought of that.
As ScorpGirl444 said, think before you ink. i didnt do that with one of my tattoos and i regret the heck out of it. i have had this one for the better part of 9 years and it is the only one of the three that i have that i regret. so think first.
as far as tribal tattoo meanings, it depends on the culture of the person getting the tatto, for instance the Maori tribe, i cant remember right off where they are from specifically, but the Southern Pacific area does come to mind. they place a huge significance on the tattoo work they do. so it depends on who you are and what specific patterning you select.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 9:41:31 AM

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quote:

This one would hate it, if her tattoo was seen by someone and they assumed she belonged to a particular type of people... when she'd have no idea that tribal tattoos actually mean something like that. Thank you for any response(s).

Yep, exactly why I would never have one. I wouldnt have so much problem with a tribal tat actually belonging to a tribe as I would have if it belonged to no tribe at all. Tattoos in my opinion are supposed to have meaning, not just a pretty picture picked off the wall. I leave tribal tats to tribes.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 2/27/2006 11:58:35 AM

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Pheonix: All of my tattoos are considered "tribal" (check out my profile pics to see them, I have a new one on my thigh that I don't have pics of yet). Unless your design is very closely associated with Maori or American Indian symbols, the "tribal" label usually just means that it's black work (all black ink). Some Celtic designs are called tribal too when they are all black. It's become a really generic term.

As for pain, a black work tat is less painful than a color tat or one with lots of shading. The color is intense and the area becomes numb rather quickly. I do recomend getting the A and D oitnment that has a little numbing in it because it feels much better going in those first few days when you just can't put too much on it.

A couple of pieces of advice on blackwork tats...Be sure the tattoo artist stretches the skin really tight, the more it's stretched, the more ink can go in and the darker it will be over time (btw the ankle is a really ouchie place to get a tat...closer to bone= more pain). Also, don't be surprised if you have to go back in a month or so and get the whole thing reinked. It's kind of like using a crayon or marker to color in a shape, some places will be darker than others and it's hard for a tattoo artist to see that until it is healed. I've had all mine inked twice (second time is free if your tattoo artist is good).

Hope this helps!
typesgirl

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 3/6/2006 11:47:28 AM

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The chances of a tribal tattoo obtained in most parlors actually meaning something to a person from a different culture are probably about the same as getting a Kanji tat and having it mean 'Lemon Chicken'.

In other words it more often refers to the solid graphic style, not symbolism.

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 3/6/2006 1:01:37 PM

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I have worked in the bodyartindustry for just over 13 years and hope that what I have to say here will be of some help.

IN GENERAL, "tribal" tattoo refers to a style of blackwork art - popularized by tattoo artists Leo Zulueta in the 80's - that is derived from the Polynesian style of tattoo (tatau).

With ANY style of tattoo, you should carefully research your design. Ideally, you shoul deisgn it for yourself or have an artist you can trust design it for you. You are married to your tattoo - tattoos last longer than most relationships.

Tattoo removal is extremely painful - more so that receiving the tattoo - and very expensive AND I won't get into the smell (sick).
KNOW what you are getting.
There is the slightest risk of your getting a tribal tattoo that is specific to a particular tribe and there may be some people who will be deeply offended by your appropriation of their culture. If this possibility concerns you, make sure you are directly involved in the research involved in the design.

Did this help?

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 3/6/2006 1:32:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MarinaBlack

I have worked in the bodyartindustry for just over 13 years and hope that what I have to say here will be of some help.

IN GENERAL, "tribal" tattoo refers to a style of blackwork art - popularized by tattoo artists Leo Zulueta in the 80's - that is derived from the Polynesian style of tattoo (tatau).

With ANY style of tattoo, you should carefully research your design. Ideally, you shoul deisgn it for yourself or have an artist you can trust design it for you. You are married to your tattoo - tattoos last longer than most relationships.

Tattoo removal is extremely painful - more so that receiving the tattoo - and very expensive AND I won't get into the smell (sick).
KNOW what you are getting.
There is the slightest risk of your getting a tribal tattoo that is specific to a particular tribe and there may be some people who will be deeply offended by your appropriation of their culture. If this possibility concerns you, make sure you are directly involved in the research involved in the design.

Did this help?

Do you think someone should get a tatoo to please someone else , if they really don't want one?

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 3/6/2006 1:56:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: kisshou

Do you think someone should get a tatoo to please someone else , if they really don't want one?

Absolutely not! After all, you are going to be the one wearing it on your body for the rest of your life, not them. I have two tattoos but I got them for myself, not to please another. There are other less permanent ways to mark your body (henna, piercings).

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 3/6/2006 2:22:34 PM

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Absolutely not! lol

There's never a guarantee that a relationship or even marriage will last, and if it ends, you're stuck with the permanent reminder. Sure, it can be lasered off, but it's very costly, not covered by insurance. And hurts....but probably just as much as getting the tattoo.

Another thing I would never do is tattoo someone's name on myself, unless they were already deceased and it was a memorial. For the same reason stated above.

I have a question for the experts, though....how about tattooing over scars? I recently had surgery on my low back and I've been thinking of getting a tattoo over or around the area to decorate it. The scar is about 4-5 inches long and thin, right up the center. I have heard that you can't tattoo over scar tissue, and the area around it might have too much swelling in it. Is this true?

Thanks!

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RE: Tattoo Question? - 3/7/2006 4:44:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: typesgirl

Pheonix: All of my tattoos are considered "tribal" (check out my profile pics to see them, I have a new one on my thigh that I don't have pics of yet). Unless your design is very closely associated with Maori or American Indian symbols, the "tribal" label usually just means that it's black work (all black ink). Some Celtic designs are called tribal too when they are all black. It's become a really generic term.

As for pain, a black work tat is less painful than a color tat or one with lots of shading. The color is intense and the area becomes numb rather quickly. I do recomend getting the A and D oitnment that has a little numbing in it because it feels much better going in those first few days when you just can't put too much on it.

A couple of pieces of advice on blackwork tats...Be sure the tattoo artist stretches the skin really tight, the more it's stretched, the more ink can go in and the darker it will be over time (btw the ankle is a really ouchie place to get a tat...closer to bone= more pain). Also, don't be surprised if you have to go back in a month or so and get the whole thing reinked. It's kind of like using a crayon or marker to color in a shape, some places will be darker than others and it's hard for a tattoo artist to see that until it is healed. I've had all mine inked twice (second time is free if your tattoo artist is good).

Hope this helps!
typesgirl

I have to disagree with that statement about the pain...unless the black is just an outline.

My slave bishop just sat for a 3 and 1/2 hour tat session(her 4th one),getting My portrait on her forearm(the underneath part),its ALL black and hurt like hell.Partly because of where it is and PARTLY because of all the black shading.

Sometimes like in bishops case she does have to go back in 2 weeks and get some touch ups done,a piece that takes an hour or less shouldnt have to be touched up,something that takes longer will probally need more work after.

If the tat artist is a good one...you shouldnt have to have it recolored at any point, unless say 30-40 years have passed and the ink has started to fade.

Pain is different for E/everyone.More coloring whether it is done with black or another color may hurt more,than just an outline.I do agree that on or near bone is a very sensitive spot as is soft areas(under the arm,opposed to on the top,will hurt more).

All 4 of Mine are colored and have serious meanings behind them and none of them hurt.
My butterfly is a representation of My changing from that catapillar into a beautiful butterfly.I have slave bishops Zodiac sign in a Celtic Circle braid design( picked that one out of the book and only changed the size,kept the colors it had already),My kids initials are in red hearts. The last one is a cartoon Scorpion,done in My birthstone color(Topaz)and outlined in white so it looks like a sticker,people try to peel it off,LOL.

***In case some of Y/you didnt know SOME people can be allergic to RED ink,I found out the hard way,its not pleasant at all.The red puffs up and itches like crazy...My only option to have it removed is to cut it off and do a skin graph over it,needless to say I tolerate the itching and swelling.***

My biggest advice would be to make sure the place you go to is a good one.
If they dont have any pics of past ink work they have done,that may be a warning sign.
If the place is dirty in the lobby area...turn around and leave.I also like to have a peek at the rest room,again if its not clean I leave.If they cant keep it looking clean what are the chances they are clean workers?

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