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Sunnyfey -> RE: Pepper punishement (9/13/2009 11:57:54 AM)
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ORIGINAL: Noah
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ORIGINAL: DemonKia
Yeah, I subscribe to the school of topping that I only do to others those things I've tried out on myself -- & have gathered a decent understanding of what all is entailed . . . . . .
Personally, I like Vicks rubbed down there, but it took some building up to get there . . . . .
[;)]
So you've never observed a partner who was blindfolded? Because you clearly haven't observed yourself while blindfolded. Nope, but I have been blindfolded before.
Never bound a partner while remaining unbound yourself? Because you clearly couldn't bind yourself while remaining unbound yourself. Actually I've seen two people do rope suspensions on each other at the same time. Also, I've been tied up before
Never touched a partner's penis? (or is there something you haven't told us about your own anatomy, Miss?) No I dont have penis, but I have touched them. But Then again I can bet 99.9 % of the time my man wont like me taking a bite out of his naughty bits.
You've never nibbled on a partner's neck or ear? Nor even kissed a partner on the lips, not to say the small of the back? Sure I have, but I've had other do the same to me
Interesting. Glad these, uh, restrictions are working for you.
In fact your partner's response to a hot pepper inserted (here or there) will not necessarily even mirror that same partner's experience of the very same thing the day before or six hours after. All sorts of objective and subjective factors influence--sometimes dramatically--our response to a given stimulus.
If you want to learn, by self-experimentation, what a given stimulus will be experienced as by your partner, here's all you need to do. Be sure to precisely match your age to his or hers. Also, match state of health, state of fatigue, blood sugar level (in fact blood chemistry across the board), state of galvanic skin response, ECG conditions, allergies, mood, feelings toward you, degree of subspace and, well, his or her entire genome and life history just to get started.
But you still have a long way to go.
Setting aside the vast range of physical/medical reasons why it is delusional to think that you can know your partner's response based on your own, consider the more subjective issues.
Do you think for a moment that a person's emotional response to a stimulus is walled off from his or her physical response?
Let's say a some cop pulls you over, falsely claiming that you ran a stop sign. Let's say the cop pats you down, strips you, does a full body cavity search there by the roadside, and then proceeds to slap you back and forth across your face. Do you think that he or she can reasonably claim "I know just what that citizen felt when slapped. After all, I slapped myself back and forth just last Tuesday (just after quizzically probing my own intimate orifices.) One things is for sure: my slapping of that citizen gave rise to no feelings of outrage, humiliation or injustice. I know this because I felt no such things when I slapped myself."
I suspect that for some citizens the cop's slaps would scarcely hurt at all, any otherwise expected physical response being submerged beneath a quite righteous emotional one. For another citizen, the physical response might be exagerrated, it might hurt twice as much because of the strange subjective factors.
Analogously, your partner's physical responses to stimuli received at your hand can be strongly conditioned by your partner's emotional response to you and the time and the setting and the relationship context in which you administer stimulus A, B or C. Among many other things.
Consider your emotional state, set of intentions, and degree and kind of engagement in the moment while sticking a nettle up your own nose for research purposes. Can you reliably assume that these factors will pretty closely match those of your partner whenever you happen to decide on a nettly invasion of his or her nostrils?
Maybe so. Maybe not. I mean I don't know you guys. Maybe you're really in tune.
It is dangerously irresponsible to presume that someone else's response to a given stimulus will mirror your own. Inexperienced subs who take such claims from doms as reassuring should instead read them as red flags, in my opinion.
Tops who are into auto-erotic masochism are just as worthy as any others. Go for it, y'all. If some of them feel the need to camoflage this activity with talk about how it is all for the sake of their partners, that's fine too. Sort of a pity, from one point of view, given the bankruptcy of the claim that this self-play let's them know what their partner will experience, but there is is.
By the way, I'm intrigued by the tut-tut-tutting about blisters(!) from people liberally sprinkled with tattoos. Painful brief disfigurement is just wrong while painful permanent disfigurement is a swell hobby?
Interesting.
To the OP: Yes, you can insert hot peppers into sensitive orifices without killing anyone or arousing the ire of emergency room staff. You can even have them insert the hot peppers onto their sensitive orifices themselves. You can even have them pay you for preparing the hot pepper for orifice entry and letting them poke it in themselves.
If you've ever visited the kitchen of a Mexican or Thai or Sichuan restaurant you have encounted people who do this for a living.
Rock on. Have fun.
And please excuse the people who display insufficient imagination to envision that for someone, perhaps someone unlike themselves, physical punishment could indeed be a useful part of a process of "learning one's place" in a cetain context, in a certain relationship.
Some people apparently haven't learned that Folks Are Different.
These people therefore end up saddled with presumptions like "My partner's physical responses to stimuli will reliably mirror my own," and "No one else will ever experience psychological or emotional development in a way that I cannot relate to from personal experience."
But don't hate on 'em. It takes all kinds.
Just do your thing.
And by the way, kudos for displaying the maturity and concern for your partner revealed in your decision to seek advice here before proceeding with this new activity.
I hope you've found a few useful comments in amongst the responses to your post.
I find it pretty funny you so against testing things on yourself first. At least the person who subscribes to the "test on yourself first" idea, has at least an inkling of what their partner is going through. And besides all that, if someone cant take what they are going to dish out to me, then they don't need to be near my precious skin. Cant handle the heat pumpkin? Get the fuck out my kitchen. If your going to be spanking my ass, and smacking me in the face, I don't want to see you cry when I do it back one day. But then again I guess Im just a sucker for those manly types.
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