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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 12:52:52 PM   
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Practice with me folks:

Dominant bottoming. Dom-i-nant bot-tom-ing . . .. . . . .

The kind of thinking the OP references keeps bringing me 'round to the following 'logic chain':

Bottoming is to receive sexual pleasures. To receive fellatio is to receive sexual pleasure. To receive fellatio is to bottom. Thus, by the thinking that doms-can-only-be-tops, any dom who receives fellatio is not a good, proper toply dom. Perhaps all those erstwhile doms who bottom in receiving fellatio are just confused? Or maybe this line of reasoning doesn't apply . . . . . .

*big time smirk*

Or, maybe doms can be & do as they please, & the rest of the assumptive nonsense can just fall by the wayside . . . . . .

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 12:54:44 PM   
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what say you?



I'm offended - not by your question - but by anyone past middle school who thinks " faggots are wussy" .


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 12:55:12 PM   
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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 12:56:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sublace


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

what say you?



I'm offended - not by your question - but by anyone past middle school who thinks " faggots are wussy" .





I thoroughly agree with you.


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 12:59:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hear, hear.

Also, bisexuals are ambivalent, equivocating fence-sitters . . . . . Wishy-washy wafflers . . . . To those of limited imagination & a ferocious need to judge that which is different from self . . . . . . .

quote:

ORIGINAL: sublace

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

what say you?



I'm offended - not by your question - but by anyone past middle school who thinks " faggots are wussy" .



& Sunnyfey, I'm quite fond of you, too . . . . . .

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 1:02:07 PM   
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that's just about the final word on that, I think.

LOL.

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Ja, just who are these fuckin' people, hah?

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 1:02:20 PM   
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(there, I've been wanting to use that word for days.......)


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 1:05:53 PM   
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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 1:07:39 PM   
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Oh, LT!!!!!!!!!! Howya doin'?

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 1:44:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

In another thread there is a prevailing theme that Bi-sexuality (especially if the person is male and on the receiving end) equates to a submissive personality, or that bi-sexuality is some how "not Dominant"......I'm throwing in the gay aspect also because it seems to follow the same "logic".

what say you?



Thanks for starting this one Sunnyfey..... the other thread was turning into a bun fight!

I think you know how I feel about this......sexual gender preference comes before our world of BDSM and doesn't dictate you being Dominant or submissive.

There seems to be a huge imbalance of emotions when it comes to bi Dominant women and bi Dominant men.
We know and embrace the fact that so many Dominant women have fem subs but still have a primary male partner and yet if a male Dominant has a male sub and a primary female partner there's something amiss.
Steve just reminded me of a saying the Romans had 'Women for babies and men for fun' Whilst I would hate to think thats true, it goes to show that it was much more acceptable back then than it is today.

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 1:50:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just another point to bring up,

There was a lady who was doing a speech at an event I was at and said something along these lines "Whats sexuality really matter? Tab A slot B. At the end of the night, man, woman, f2m, m2f, gay,straight,bi,.....it's all tab A slot B."


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 4:00:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been sitting here and still trying to figure out exactly what I want to say for awhile now....here goes.

I think it comes down to me being pansexual. I just do NOT understand things like this. I'm not sure if I can understand things like this. I guess I don't really equate sexuality with what one does during sex, or for that matter, I don't equate BDSM or my submissiveness with sex. It actually dose not compute for me. You'll never hear me say...

"So me and Master had this awesome bondage scene that ended with us fucking like monkies on the floor"

but I would say

"So me and Master had this awesome bondage scene!!! Then we had sex on the floor after!!"

There is no point where the sex is part of the scene for me. But sex can be the result of a scene with me. So from that idea we can postulate that my service is not directly linked to my sexuality either.

to sum it up....

Me+ sceneing = A good time had by all
Me+Service = Happy Master, happy slave
Me+pansexuality = I'll fuck anyone if I am attracted to their personality and/or how they fill out a tight pair of jeans.


Sorry if I keep repeating these things on here, but I'm really trying to work this all out logically in my brain.



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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 5:16:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think where a lot of this thinking comes from is this:

Many people, a majority that are male, but certainly a lot of females, see women as weaker, and more submissive by nature, than men. Also, they see gay men as being a sort of "woman", you know, the preening, swishy type. So, for these folks, it isn't that big a jump in "thinking" to equate gay males as submissives.

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 5:19:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

In another thread there is a prevailing theme that Bi-sexuality (especially if the person is male and on the receiving end) equates to a submissive personality, or that bi-sexuality is some how "not Dominant"......I'm throwing in the gay aspect also because it seems to follow the same "logic".

what say you?



no way! just cause of your personal preference of who you want to 'do' youre not dominate you have to be submissive, i think its a bit stereo typical to say. i know lots of gay guys that strive for power and are ambitious. i also had a friend who was gay and a closet submissive, all of his boyfriends had dominate tendencies.  i answer your question with another question.. if all gay men are submissive then how do gay men find a Dominate?

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 6:19:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sexisubi

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sunnyfey

In another thread there is a prevailing theme that Bi-sexuality (especially if the person is male and on the receiving end) equates to a submissive personality, or that bi-sexuality is some how "not Dominant"......I'm throwing in the gay aspect also because it seems to follow the same "logic".

what say you?



no way! just cause of your personal preference of who you want to 'do' youre not dominate you have to be submissive, i think its a bit stereo typical to say. i know lots of gay guys that strive for power and are ambitious. i also had a friend who was gay and a closet submissive, all of his boyfriends had dominate tendencies.  i answer your question with another question.. if all gay men are submissive then how do gay men find a Dominant?


That my big problem with all this!!! There are thousands of gay Doms!!


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 7:02:16 PM   
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I am a bisexual female dominant, married to a bisexual male dominant. Both of us enjoy recieving penetration. I figure that if the boy says, "This cock belongs to you, Mistress", then I can do whatever I want with it, and that is not just limited to slapping it around and tying it up. I realize that that bends some people's brains, but clearly they needed them bent, because they were keeping them too small. (smile)


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 8:50:51 PM   
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that makes as much sense as saying a person is stupid because they are black.

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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 10:56:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's due to the phenomenon of how many people parallel machismo/masculinity to dominance. The ability to get your way, through outright strength of force (physically or mentally) is so often coupled with 'manly-man' assertiveness that bisexuality, for the effeminate presumptions it draws, will paint the individual as less dominant in the eyes of many.

Your exceptions would likely lie heavily among gay male subs, where there is no reliance/adherence to typical male testosterone as an indicator of anything relating to dominance.


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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 11:00:30 PM   
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RE: Bisexuality/Gay = Submissive? - 9/15/2009 11:38:07 PM   
DemonKia


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Seriously, tho'. It is indeed much more about the relatively stricter strictures around masculinity than those current for femininity . . . . I feel sorry for guys on that account. I cross dress all the time & no one notices . . . . & I can make out with chicks to get favorable attention to a degree that is not so for guys, by far . . . . . It's an inegalitarian situation . .. . .

*shrugs*

That which does not kill us makes us stronger, no? & I do think there is a progressive trend around this, with younger generations tending to have much more fluidity around these issues than their parents' & grandparents' generations, both in being & in accepting . . . .

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