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Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 9:34:17 AM   
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I have been in my relationship for 3 years now. We started off as M/s, then we got married a short time later. I have found myself over the past few years just really confused in it all. After we had been together awhile, he sort of backed off of being the strict master he was, and that made me back off of being in the "role" of his slave.

I admit I had no clue how unhappy he was with everything until we had a bit of a blow-up about something totally unrelated last week. While I am grateful he is getting better about talking to me about how he feeling and thinking, it has also been a bit overwhelming getting "hit" with so much information at once.

I found out how much he missed me being his slave. It's not that I didn't do what he would tell me to, or that I wasn't being submissive to him being his wife..it's that he wants more than that. It has surprised me a bit how much control he actually wants, it's not something he has really shared with me before. I wouldn't say it's micromanagement, but it hinges on the line.

After much thought I have decided to throw myself back into the dynamic. I talked to him about it and how I am not one that can go half way in, I need 120% or nothing at all. We talked about my need for rules, for follow through in punishment, and things along that line. He has told me he will sit down today and write out exactly what he desires and expects of me, and what rules he wants to implement into our daily lives. I look forward to sitting down with him tonight and going over them and setting them into stone (so to speak) immediately after.

I have had my head so far away from all of this for so long, I worry I won't be able to get into it again. It's not that I would refuse, it's that I wouldn't be doing it with a happy heart, and I fear resentment will find it's way in. I am admit I worry a bit that I will get my mind back there again, and he will grow bored with enforcing what he has set up. I am not sure I could take that back and fort thing again, it's so confusing for me.

Can I do what I am told? Yes, I know I can do that. The thing I am trying to figure out is how do I deal with all of this again....the uncertainty, the build up and then the fear it will all be lost again. I think that's why in my heart I am rebelling against it, and in turn that's taking the joy out of it. As I lay there when he is inflicting pain on me, I feel my mind almost go into an abused mode (which I know I am not being), and that makes each bit of pain feel like it hits my soul instead of bringing pleasure. I know that pain can cause me pleasure, because at times I love it and need more and more..it's just figuring out how to find pleasure in him enjoying the pain and me not.

I don't know if any of the above is even making sense, but I hope somehow it is. I don't know if I even know what I am asking other than ... Will I ever be happy being this again? and What can I do to help put myself back into the mode of being his slave again?  



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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 10:54:07 AM   
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Why do you have to do it all in one day? It took you three years to get to where you are now, why can't you slowly get it back?

Because it will be difficult to suddenly have to remember 120 slave rules when you've only had to remember five previously. Why not add one rule a week and keep adding them until you're both happy.

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 11:13:25 AM   
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Agreed there with DesFIP. This is going to be really difficult for you and for you to find the pleasure of it again I really think its a must that you both take it slow going back into it all.. Maybe really sit and talk it through and maybe discuss some new exciting things that you hadnt previously delved into? Rather than gogoing back to all the same rules ect you had before.

He must understand that its not so easy just to go back to the old you.. I think you need time on this one to get to grips with it all again....

Im no pro so im just throwing my penny worth in

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 12:02:10 PM   
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OK, so maybe I'm having a bad hair day today, but here's how I read your story (at least as it was written).

You're a good slave.
He WAS a good master.
He got fat, dumb and happy and stopped mastering you.
As I would expect a good submissive to do, you adapted to that.
He got progressively more unhappy and didn't mention that to you.
NOW, that's all your fault.

So, given that I'm a real believer in "the buck stops here".... especially in a TPE relationship, I gotta give your master pretty low marks all the way around. Who knows what YOU can do? But I can bet you're going to need a partner to do it with... a master to your slave. And, you're going to need one who takes responsibility along with the authority he wants to wield.

By the way, I can only guess since Carol and I don't do SM, but it sounds to me like the reason you go into "abused mode" when he hits you is that you don't feel like you're in a sub/slave space because he hasn't put you there. So that pretty much just leaves, "a guy hitting a woman".

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 4:22:19 PM   
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Agree with above
I would also say that you should not be submitting to pain play when it isn't play ( in your mind). Seems to me that you need to allow your trust and respect for him as a master to regenerate before you can be in a mind place to enjoy and appreciate pain play.   Perhaps he should back off on the play, and work on the foundations of your relationship as he wishes it to be.

As for his communication skills   -  definitely lacking.   Maybe the two of you could work on why he became so uncommunicative and distanced from you. If you had a decent relationships to begin with, and he backed off, you need to get to the bottom of why!  And if it was laziness, then you need assurances that it isn't going to happen again.

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 5:19:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

You're a good slave.
He WAS a good master.
He got fat, dumb and happy and stopped mastering you.
As I would expect a good submissive to do, you adapted to that.
He got progressively more unhappy and didn't mention that to you.
NOW, that's all your fault.



Well said. As with many things BDSM-related, a good stiff dose of Cesar Milan seems in order here. Master is getting the level of discipline he created.

On another level, some of this is normal when you transition from being "in the dungeon" to be a married couple- it is often easy to lose the kinky scene dynamics in the midst of groceries, ring around the collar, paying the electric bill, etc.
It might take some adjusting on both parts to settle into a marriage where you each are getting what you need, based on your Dominant and submissive personalities.

Think less about kink, and more about how does he want his breakfast cooked- how does he like his shirts folded or hung, when does he expect dinner to be ready...you get the picture. And he has to be willing to enforce his will, and reinforce it at every opportunity.

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 8:04:10 PM   
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We often tend to make this submissive centric when discussing behaviors and what to be expected but a dominant needs to be consistent and lead. I agree with everything that has been written for the most part. My major concern from the OP is from what you describe is a man that thinks M/s is just going to be you doing stuff and hopefully for your sake he will monitor your rules and punish.

From what it sounds I think you are better off not just him giving you a list of things and you are on your way but have a serious discussion and beside your things find out what he is going to do different in the proactive and not the reactive way. I think a two way discussion on this will be more fruitful and help you share your concerns about getting back to where you were.

Remember it takes two people and both the dominant and submissive feed off each other which sounds like what went wrong the first time. So besides starting over remember to deal with the problem that destroyed it the last time.


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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 8:25:17 PM   
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there are no guarantees, are there?  you just have to wait and see what happens.  I would probably feel the same way you do, but what else is there to do but try and hope for the best.  keep talking to each other and maybe it will all come back.

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/17/2009 9:04:00 PM   
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Wow, so many spot on responses I don't even know where to start.

He and I have talked about this quite a bit. He admits he wasn't very good at talking to me about things. I have noticed since we had that talk, he has already improved in that department. I think he is realizing that if he doesn't tell me something, I actually have no way of knowing.

He is supposed to be drawing up some basic rules and protocol he wants followed. I wrote out some things that I found interesting and told him about them. He was supposed to finish them today, but didn't get any written down, hopefully he will get that done tomorrow. I don't mind being a slave, but I atleast need a little bit of a direction.

When I started out in all of this, I had very strict doms..so I admit that is more what I am used to. I don't think that one has to have that on order to be a slave, but for me it's a must. I have found myself being more of a bottom and him more of a top as the years have passed and that was okay as long as I didn't have my head in the "slave zone". That is all turning around now though and I feel like I am almost demanding, for lack of a better term, all of the protocols, punishment, etc that go along with being a slave to me. When I do that, I sort of feel like I am topping from the bottom by requesting and that throws the whole thing back to the starting line again. :)

I personally don't care what I end up being..sub, slave, bottom..nothing...I just need to have the role defined in order to be content, if that makes sense.

Thank you all so much for the responses...they make a lot of sense to me.


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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/18/2009 12:50:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: worthlesstrash

I have been in my relationship for 3 years now. We started off as M/s, then we got married a short time later. I have found myself over the past few years just really confused in it all. After we had been together awhile, he sort of backed off of being the strict master he was, and that made me back off of being in the "role" of his slave.

I admit I had no clue how unhappy he was with everything until we had a bit of a blow-up about something totally unrelated last week. While I am grateful he is getting better about talking to me about how he feeling and thinking, it has also been a bit overwhelming getting "hit" with so much information at once.

I found out how much he missed me being his slave. It's not that I didn't do what he would tell me to, or that I wasn't being submissive to him being his wife..it's that he wants more than that. It has surprised me a bit how much control he actually wants, it's not something he has really shared with me before. I wouldn't say it's micromanagement, but it hinges on the line.

After much thought I have decided to throw myself back into the dynamic. I talked to him about it and how I am not one that can go half way in, I need 120% or nothing at all. We talked about my need for rules, for follow through in punishment, and things along that line. He has told me he will sit down today and write out exactly what he desires and expects of me, and what rules he wants to implement into our daily lives. I look forward to sitting down with him tonight and going over them and setting them into stone (so to speak) immediately after.

I have had my head so far away from all of this for so long, I worry I won't be able to get into it again. It's not that I would refuse, it's that I wouldn't be doing it with a happy heart, and I fear resentment will find it's way in. I am admit I worry a bit that I will get my mind back there again, and he will grow bored with enforcing what he has set up. I am not sure I could take that back and fort thing again, it's so confusing for me.

Can I do what I am told? Yes, I know I can do that. The thing I am trying to figure out is how do I deal with all of this again....the uncertainty, the build up and then the fear it will all be lost again. I think that's why in my heart I am rebelling against it, and in turn that's taking the joy out of it. As I lay there when he is inflicting pain on me, I feel my mind almost go into an abused mode (which I know I am not being), and that makes each bit of pain feel like it hits my soul instead of bringing pleasure. I know that pain can cause me pleasure, because at times I love it and need more and more..it's just figuring out how to find pleasure in him enjoying the pain and me not.

I don't know if any of the above is even making sense, but I hope somehow it is. I don't know if I even know what I am asking other than ... Will I ever be happy being this again? and What can I do to help put myself back into the mode of being his slave again?  




I am wondering if his version of the events is that is was you who backed off which resulted in him backing off?
I am wondering why neither one of you were willing to discuss it at the time?
I an wondering if either of you are committed enough to the concept or will this cycle repeat itself?
I fear the statement 120% or nothing was a poor and premature choice of words at this point and time?
As been suggested by others, maybe you should take it a little more slowly, will you come to love it as you once did, only you can truly answer that and only time will tell.
What put you in the mode before? remember you have a partner there and you need to involve him ot you are destined to fail

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/18/2009 3:44:13 AM   
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I tend to agree about communication. It sounds to me like you've had a communication problem for a loooong time. The problem with communication breakdowns is you often don't realise they exist until you're near breaking point. For instance, you say "I don't to hear about your past lovers". Now this might only be a emotional thing there and then. He takes it heart and so whole major aspect of his past experience and life is suddenly almost taboo and never discussed as a result. This is a Bad Thing.

The thing is, I can't see how ANY relationship, let alone a M/s one can survive without good communication. It works both ways - but being a typical thick insensitive male, you huffing around the house for a day will give me NO clue whatsoever what I've done to piss you off or hurt you. Unless you spit it out, I'll never know, and more importantly, never be able to apologies properly and try to make up for it. (Errr.. that's just my own experience speaking! :eek:)

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/18/2009 7:59:39 AM   
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I totally agree on the communication thing. I am a talker, I like to talk everything out, I like to sit when there is a problem and come to some conclusion. M really hasn't been like that, I guess I just chalked it up to the way he is. He totally admitted he needs to get better at that, and I am so very grateful we are talking things out. If you don't it  all just builds and builds, then makes a huge mess when it comes out. That's sort of what happened to us a couple of weeks ago, I honestly had no idea anything was even wrong. He and I went off someplace and we talked it out..I opened up to him about how blindsided I felt and things like that. He also told me how when he married me he got more than he wanted. What I mean is..when we met he was looking for a slave, nothing more, then our relationship grew from that into a marriage and went away from the M/s side of it.

I never quit being submissive to him. When we were in bed, I would do what he wanted...if he ever told me anything he wanted outside of that I would I do it also..along with just the normal chores I felt as his wife I should be doing anyway.

What I am finding this time around is that he actually wants more control than he did before, which surprised me a tad bit. I am fine with it, actually I like it, but I was a bit taken aback.

Yes, he feels I pulled away..and I felt he pulled away...maybe we both did in some ways. It's hard to read someones mind, even for the most ubber dom and slave.

I just want to be content in my life, I want to feel a peace about our relationship..those are the most important to me. I will do what he wants in order to get there, that's how much I love him. I am sure I will come to enjoy these things in time, but it will take time and lots of it. When I said 120%, what I meant is I am not a half starter on anything in life. I put myself totally in there at the beginning, it's what makes me function at my highest level and that's where I need to be in order to do this again. It's like right now I am waiting for him to set down the rules and protocols. If that isn't done soon, in my head I will be thinking he really doesn't want to mess with it all. That will throw me back out of this "mode" and I am sure confuse me a bit.

Thanks you all for the input, it's nice to get a different view of things.




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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/18/2009 2:57:39 PM   
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Worthlesstrash,
For me a serious reality that i had to come to terms with was i could not hope or expect for a peaceful or respectful relationship with Him or with anyone else until i had that type of relationship with myself.  You've been around the boards long enough (under different names and what not) that i'm afraid i don't have much new to suggest to you... But i'm entirely convinced that all of those suggestions you received in the past are just as pertinent now...Are just as imperative now...Are just as realistic now...Are just as relationship crucial now...
My recommendations would be to: check your expectations regularly of yourself and of him, if you are currently prescribed medication take that as prescribed, see a kink friendly therapist {As a couple!!!}, make a committment to yourself that you are not going to harm yourself in any way shape or form....It's amazing when people make that solid of a committment how much chaos and dysfunction that eliminates from their lives....
i believe you have the ability and the willingness to do what is necessary to make this relationship work. i think you might just need to have some issue fine tuned.
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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/18/2009 3:32:48 PM   
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quote:

worthlesstrash said:
Yes, he feels I pulled away..and I felt he pulled away...maybe we both did in some ways.

You know I actually take that as a very positive sign. It speaks of a level of inter-connectedness that seems healthy to me in a relationship. Good for you two for talking it out. Over the long term things ebb and flow. Communication and good intent are what keep the partnership in sync.

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/19/2009 1:38:24 PM   
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Well, M and I sat down last night to go over an rules he wanted to implement. He wants me to clean, have his clothes ready, have breakfast prepared, and things along that line. The thing is, it's not really anything that I didn't do already, so I admit I am a touch confused. I thought he felt like we had went away from that, but it seems we were doing it all of the time. I brought up a few different things, like protocols, rules..etc, but he didn't really seem interested in them.

I don't have any problem at all with what he wants, I guess I just don't see how it's any different than what we have been doing for the last 3 yrs. It's good that we are on the same page though, that's what is most important. Maybe over time we can add in some things that he enjoys having me do and even some things I enjoy him controlling. One thing we have talked about is my dieting. I have been trying to lose a bit of weight so I asked him for help in this area. I will have a certain amount of calories I am allowed in a day, I will keep a food journal and when I go over I will be punished. I think it's something that will not only help my health, it will in turn make me better for him in many ways.

Thank you all for the great advice you have given me.


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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/19/2009 6:02:54 PM   
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quote:

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Well, M and I sat down last night to go over an rules he wanted to implement. He wants me to clean, have his clothes ready, have breakfast prepared, and things along that line. The thing is, it's not really anything that I didn't do already, so I admit I am a touch confused. I thought he felt like we had went away from that, but it seems we were doing it all of the time. I brought up a few different things, like protocols, rules..etc, but he didn't really seem interested in them.

I don't have any problem at all with what he wants, I guess I just don't see how it's any different than what we have been doing for the last 3 yrs.


While the actions may be the same as what you've been doing for the last three years, the meaning of them is considerably different now. You did them because you wanted to or you felt responsible or thought that to be a good wife you should do them. Or maybe you did them, imagining you were his slave. But you did not do them because you knew he would be completely within his rights to severely punish you if you do not do them...and that he would punish you for disobedience. These acts, however you thought about them before, were not compelled, you were not required by him to obey. But now they are--you must do them--and you must obey, no matter how much you might not want to sometimes. You say you've had strict masters in the past. Do you remember how it felt to be given something easy and simple to do but, because you HAD to do it, it was harder, somehow less appealing than if you were doing it of your own free will and volition? In a master-slave relationship in which genuine power is being exchanged, you can expect to feel a lot of that. Resentment at times at the double standard when it comes to freedom, frustration at having to do something, an impulse to do things differently but knowing you can't without permission, and, of course, the perverse sweetness of all of that. :) If he controls you, if he dominates you now, these familiar acts should start to feel very different to you. At least I hope they will. :)

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It's good that we are on the same page though, that's what is most important. Maybe over time we can add in some things that he enjoys having me do and even some things I enjoy him controlling. One thing we have talked about is my dieting. I have been trying to lose a bit of weight so I asked him for help in this area. I will have a certain amount of calories I am allowed in a day, I will keep a food journal and when I go over I will be punished. I think it's something that will not only help my health, it will in turn make me better for him in many ways.




There are also many common little things he could do that would be very controlling and remind you of your place: that you are owned and not your own person anymore. It might be good if he started doing some of those, as you have been out of the slave loop for a while. :) A very common one that many dominants do is make a slave always ask permission before she uses the bathroom when he's there or whenever he demands you do so. It's a very small thing, but it really reminds a slave that she is not in charge of herself anymore, that any freedoms she does have are there only because he tolerates/grants them. Small things are good, too, because there isn't a lot at stake with them. A weightloss program is a big thing. It's very hard to do, even if you are controlled, and for many women, so very much rides on it. But having to ask permission to pee, lol, that's not going to devestate you if you lapse sometime, although your bottom might feel pretty devestated after you confess you forgot to ask.

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/21/2009 6:09:35 AM   
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quote:

Well, M and I sat down last night to go over an rules he wanted to implement. He wants me to clean, have his clothes ready, have breakfast prepared, and things along that line. The thing is, it's not really anything that I didn't do already, so I admit I am a touch confused. I thought he felt like we had went away from that, but it seems we were doing it all of the time. I brought up a few different things, like protocols, rules..etc, but he didn't really seem interested in them.

I don't have any problem at all with what he wants, I guess I just don't see how it's any different than what we have been doing for the last 3 yrs. It's good that we are on the same page though, that's what is most important. Maybe over time we can add in some things that he enjoys having me do and even some things I enjoy him controlling. One thing we have talked about is my dieting. I have been trying to lose a bit of weight so I asked him for help in this area. I will have a certain amount of calories I am allowed in a day, I will keep a food journal and when I go over I will be punished. I think it's something that will not only help my health, it will in turn make me better for him in many ways.


I have come to understand that: No matter how many times I call someone Master..If that is truely not what I see in front of me every time I look...it isn't going to be.. and all the rules, protocols would only lead to resentful feelings of varying degrees.

Only He can bring you to see this in front of you. It won't work if your forcing or fooling yourself.

Good Luck

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/21/2009 8:59:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: worthlesstrash

Well, M and I sat down last night to go over an rules he wanted to implement. He wants me to clean, have his clothes ready, have breakfast prepared, and things along that line. The thing is, it's not really anything that I didn't do already, so I admit I am a touch confused. I thought he felt like we had went away from that, but it seems we were doing it all of the time. I brought up a few different things, like protocols, rules..etc, but he didn't really seem interested in them.

I don't have any problem at all with what he wants, I guess I just don't see how it's any different than what we have been doing for the last 3 yrs.


While the actions may be the same as what you've been doing for the last three years, the meaning of them is considerably different now. You did them because you wanted to or you felt responsible or thought that to be a good wife you should do them. Or maybe you did them, imagining you were his slave. But you did not do them because you knew he would be completely within his rights to severely punish you if you do not do them...and that he would punish you for disobedience. These acts, however you thought about them before, were not compelled, you were not required by him to obey. But now they are--you must do them--and you must obey, no matter how much you might not want to sometimes. You say you've had strict masters in the past. Do you remember how it felt to be given something easy and simple to do but, because you HAD to do it, it was harder, somehow less appealing than if you were doing it of your own free will and volition? In a master-slave relationship in which genuine power is being exchanged, you can expect to feel a lot of that. Resentment at times at the double standard when it comes to freedom, frustration at having to do something, an impulse to do things differently but knowing you can't without permission, and, of course, the perverse sweetness of all of that. :) If he controls you, if he dominates you now, these familiar acts should start to feel very different to you. At least I hope they will. :)

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It's good that we are on the same page though, that's what is most important. Maybe over time we can add in some things that he enjoys having me do and even some things I enjoy him controlling. One thing we have talked about is my dieting. I have been trying to lose a bit of weight so I asked him for help in this area. I will have a certain amount of calories I am allowed in a day, I will keep a food journal and when I go over I will be punished. I think it's something that will not only help my health, it will in turn make me better for him in many ways.




There are also many common little things he could do that would be very controlling and remind you of your place: that you are owned and not your own person anymore. It might be good if he started doing some of those, as you have been out of the slave loop for a while. :) A very common one that many dominants do is make a slave always ask permission before she uses the bathroom when he's there or whenever he demands you do so. It's a very small thing, but it really reminds a slave that she is not in charge of herself anymore, that any freedoms she does have are there only because he tolerates/grants them. Small things are good, too, because there isn't a lot at stake with them. A weightloss program is a big thing. It's very hard to do, even if you are controlled, and for many women, so very much rides on it. But having to ask permission to pee, lol, that's not going to devestate you if you lapse sometime, although your bottom might feel pretty devestated after you confess you forgot to ask.


I think what I have had problems with is my M is such a sweet man. I don't think I have met a man with a bigger heart and who is so caring. He can do a complete turnaround though if the occasion calls for it, I just haven't seen that side of him much.

I think it will probably be strange for him to punish me if I need it and to enforce rules he has set up. The journey we are on now includes both of us, but I think it's one we are both up for all the same. I am hoping over time I will discover things about myself, and that he will even learn a bit about his own being along the way.

We have set up the rule about me asking permission to go to the restroom or to leave the room. I keep forgetting though, lol..so I am working on that part. It's hard after 3 years of not, to all of the sudden put yourself back there..but I think it's going to be a pleasurable place for us both.

thank you for responding.


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~anne

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Don't judge a book by it's name, judge it by it's content..

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RE: Can i be a good slave? - 9/21/2009 9:02:55 AM   
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Well, M and I sat down last night to go over an rules he wanted to implement. He wants me to clean, have his clothes ready, have breakfast prepared, and things along that line. The thing is, it's not really anything that I didn't do already, so I admit I am a touch confused. I thought he felt like we had went away from that, but it seems we were doing it all of the time. I brought up a few different things, like protocols, rules..etc, but he didn't really seem interested in them.

I don't have any problem at all with what he wants, I guess I just don't see how it's any different than what we have been doing for the last 3 yrs. It's good that we are on the same page though, that's what is most important. Maybe over time we can add in some things that he enjoys having me do and even some things I enjoy him controlling. One thing we have talked about is my dieting. I have been trying to lose a bit of weight so I asked him for help in this area. I will have a certain amount of calories I am allowed in a day, I will keep a food journal and when I go over I will be punished. I think it's something that will not only help my health, it will in turn make me better for him in many ways.


I have come to understand that: No matter how many times I call someone Master..If that is truely not what I see in front of me every time I look...it isn't going to be.. and all the rules, protocols would only lead to resentful feelings of varying degrees.

Only He can bring you to see this in front of you. It won't work if your forcing or fooling yourself.

Good Luck

starshine





I agree with you completely. I trust him with all of my heart and my body like I have no one else that has dominated me.

I imagine in some ways even though we haven't been active in the dynamic per-say, I have always seen him as my dominant. All he had to do was speak something and I would do it, or I would go out of my way to always make sure he was in comfort. I think it's just us taking it to the next level, I will probably have to see him as more than just someone I want to please, or my husband..but as the person that really does own all of me and what I do.


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~anne

This girl is a slave, but she is also a woman full of love, life, and who has a ton of interests.
Don't judge a book by it's name, judge it by it's content..

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