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subjoe101 -> Reading erotica (9/18/2009 7:41:28 PM)
I love to write erotica. I'm interested to know what perspectives people prefer when reading erotica. Do you like to read from the submissive's perspective or the Mistress/Master's persepcetive? Do you prefer to read hard-core descriptions (his cock throbbed) or more general erotic descriptions (Pleasure rushed through her body)? Maybe it's a blend of both. Please identify whether your are dominatn or submissive. I'm curious to see what similiarities or differences in opinions there are between subs and dommes as well as men and women. Thanks.

sodsta -> RE: Reading erotica (9/18/2009 8:12:10 PM)
Hey Joe, :) I also write erotic fiction and thought this was a really awesome question. When I write I tend to find that the subject matter usually influences the language I use in a piece, and also whether I write from the dominant or submissive point of view. Obviously, being submissive, my dominant PoV is based largely on guess-work and things I have picked up from talking/listening to various D-types, but I quite enjoy writing from that PoV. Mainly because it puts the focus largely on the sub. Well... to be honest, the focus is still mostly on the sub when I write from that perspective, too. My submissive PoV is often very internal, whereas my dominant PoV is focused more on the external, and watching how the sub reacts. As for which PoV I prefer to read... it depends on the writer and the story. If the PoV is convincing then it doesn't really matter, I can enjoy it either way. As for language, as I said, it's often determined by the subject matter and my mood as to what I want to see/read/write/etc... I imagine it's like that for a lot of people? What kind of erotic fiction do you like to write? :)

porcelaine -> RE: Reading erotica (9/18/2009 9:12:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subjoe101 I love to write erotica. I'm interested to know what perspectives people prefer when reading erotica. Do you like to read from the submissive's perspective or the Mistress/Master's persepcetive? Do you prefer to read hard-core descriptions (his cock throbbed) or more general erotic descriptions (Pleasure rushed through her body)? Maybe it's a blend of both. Please identify whether your are dominatn or submissive. I'm curious to see what similiarities or differences in opinions there are between subs and dommes as well as men and women. i read from both. it depends on whether or not the piece hits a note with my slavery or the switch that still exists. my switchy side seems to prefer things that are more in your face, definitely edgier. the general erotic descriptions don't register well. on the other side of the paddle things are different, and i appreciate a bit of raunch and subtlety. for the most part many pieces don't foster submissive feelings or responses. i find those that do have definite lifestyle leanings and are intended for that audience. in instances such as this i look at them under a different guise. in the past i have intentionally highlighted meaningful portions and written running commentary while reading a book. it enabled me to apply the author's writings to myself in an unconventional way. merely saying i liked something or yes that spoke to me wasn't enough. i needed to know why. discovering that turned a seemingly enjoyable piece of erotica into a much appreciated learning tool. i have continued that practice to this day. porcelaine

Lockit -> RE: Reading erotica (9/18/2009 9:34:16 PM)
When I write, for the most part I am telling a story and I am telling what each person feels, thinks, goes through, etc. I blend the discriptive words between very blunt to romantic and sexy drawn out phrases. I don't do hot, fast, get to the nitty gritty peices. There is an actual storyline that cover's the build up of romance, hot sex, bdsm and vanilla life. I've gotten great feedback with doing things this way and had a bit of a fan club for a time until I stopped. Most who read actually projected themselves into the story and a number of men changed their nick name to the male charactor of the most liked story. Personally I don't like stories that are told from one perspective, but will from time to time do so and I will write from any role there is. I would get bored with anything else. It's good to know what people like, but it is best to enjoy what you're doing. If you enjoy it; other's will.

TwistedHeart74 -> RE: Reading erotica (9/18/2009 10:19:40 PM)
Hi! Great question! I also write erotica that is BDSM based. When I write I try to play it from both sides, so that my stories are a mixture and give you a good feel for both parties. I love to read erotica that is from the dominant perspective, I like it from the submissive side too. As for the type (hard core or soft) that really is based on my mood. Oh yeah, I'm a submissive :)

DarkSteven -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 3:13:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lockit When I write, for the most part I am telling a story and I am telling what each person feels, thinks, goes through, etc. I blend the discriptive words between very blunt to romantic and sexy drawn out phrases. I don't do hot, fast, get to the nitty gritty peices. There is an actual storyline that cover's the build up of romance, hot sex, bdsm and vanilla life. Beautiful, just beautiful. One objection I have to a lot of BDSM erotica is that the feelings and persons' reactions are usually omitted. That leads to bad writing at best and an abusive mindset at worst. The actions are the physical manifestations of what's happening, but there's a LOT more than meets the eye.

fadedshadow -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 3:16:13 AM)
i've read some but i haven't written any and i enjoy reading from the submissive's perspective since i can kind of identify with that ya know?

pompeii -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 4:06:02 AM)
I like to read erotica that goes beyond what I would actually ever consider doing with a submissive. To that end, I love to read historical accounts of slave treatments, from the Roman or Egyptian days to the present. It's true, it's erotic, and it's all about submissives.

Wheldrake -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 4:45:50 AM)
Male submissive reader and writer here. Mostly I like to read about dominant women doing things to submissive men and/or women, but I can enjoy other combinations (M/f or even M/m) if the writing is good and the plot and characters are interesting. The submissive and dominant points of view work about equally well for me, albeit in different ways. The submissive perspective gives a window into the intense sensations and emotions the submissive is (or should be!) going through, and makes it possible to share the delicious uncertainty about what will happen next. When the submissive happens to be male, I can often identify with his experiences and imagine myself in his place. With the dominant perspective the window is into an authoritarian and perhaps sadistic mind, which works for me because I'm drawn to authority and sadism in others (especially women). Descriptions of a dominant's cruel lust for a male submissive are especially hot, because I can imagine being desired in the same way. I find it often works well to write a story in the third person, sometimes describing the dominant's thoughts and feelings and sometimes describing the submissive's. I agree with Lockit that a good plotline and some build-up add a lot to an erotic story. Descriptions of sex and BDSM activities have a lot more impact when they involve multidimensional characters interacting as part of a logical, internally consistent scenario. And like Pompeii, I think erotic writing is an excellent way to explore historical situations, not to mention supernatural fantasies and dark desires that are too extreme for reality.

windchymes -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 7:37:53 AM)
A lot of it depends on what demographic you're writing for. Women tend to like believeable plot lines, the sex happening for a "real" reason, believeable dialog, etc. Men tend to like to get to the nitty-gritty. Disclaimer: The above statements are not meant as absolute inclusive blanket statements. I KNOW some men like plot lines and some women like nitty-gritty. I'm just saying in general. I know there are exceptions. As a female, I enjoy reading about the female's perspective, reactions, etc. And true "female" reactions, not men's feelings projected onto the female. By that I mean, for example, I would rather read how he slowly stroked her breasts through the lace of the bra, how his fingers felt caressing the skin around the breasts, how he gently but knowledgeably unhooked the bra, how the bra felt when it brushed across her skin as it fell to the floor, how she felt the goosebumps rise as the cool air touched her heated skin, and so on. Not so much how he grabbed and kneaded her enormous tits, how they spilled out of the bra when he yanked it off, how the nipples poinged into big points....and PLEASE don't get all statistical and put her exact bra and cup size into the story!!! It doesn't matter if she's 34 or 36, large C or small D. Please. It doesn't matter. Also, it's all been done before. New and creative ideas are very much welcome for me.

Acer49 -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 8:38:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subjoe101 I love to write erotica. I'm interested to know what perspectives people prefer when reading erotica. Do you like to read from the submissive's perspective or the Mistress/Master's persepcetive? Do you prefer to read hard-core descriptions (his cock throbbed) or more general erotic descriptions (Pleasure rushed through her body)? Maybe it's a blend of both. Please identify whether your are dominatn or submissive. I'm curious to see what similiarities or differences in opinions there are between subs and dommes as well as men and women. Thanks. Erotica, much like porn movies are pretty boring. The reader knows how it will start and end. To be successful, the writer needs to be able to keep the readers attention, having a plot with twists and turns that can keep the reader on their toes. I believe that statements like "a throbbing cock" are undesired as if the writer has done their job properly; the reader can already assume that. I believe something’s are better left to one's imagination

SmokeSerpent -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 9:23:02 AM)
I don't read that much erotica, but when I do, I prefer to read things from the submissive perspective. However, the reason for that is that it tends to be better reason and include more thoughts/feelings/characterization. Stories written from a dominant perspective tend much more likely to be "and then I did this, and this, and this."

Tantriqu -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 9:36:17 AM)
Hard-core or erotica? Both. I enjoy well-written straight M-F, and when I need an emergency orgasm [i.e., within five minutes], I'll use gay M-m [or M-m-M-m-M-m!] erotica or hard-core, which can be quite explicit. And I agree, there has to be something new, either in the seduction or the description, or the story in general. Sadism or dom male-sub female are major turn-offs: goodbye, wide-on! [sm=eeew.gif] And sadly, there is little well-written Femme Domme-sub male or F-m-m erotica: most of it is written by/for vanilla wankers or toppers from the bottom, where the woman is dressed in fetish gear and the guy directs the action, or she feels guilty about it, or she turns into a pizza-and-a-beer after he comes. [:'(] If anyone knows some good F-m titles or authors, please let me know.

Prinsexx -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 9:41:29 AM)
I'm a writer. When I started out I would write in the third person and I used to invent characters to do the erotic stuff that I had experienced. My canvas was then about 5,000 words long...typically known as a short. The word length then levelled out at 1,000 and a collection got published. The stories were a mix of third person with a few first persons creeping in. Now I write micro stories.. a kind of prosetry... and my latest collection is entitled Lines on based on direct experiences....a kind of stream of conciousness thing. I can switch and often switch in my head even when I am being behaviourally submissive. So the Lines switch as well. What dascinates me about the work of other writers is the different gender styles. Just as I can tell if a painter is left or right handed by the brush strokes I can tell if a writes is male or female. I can also deduce I believe the prefferred gender of the storu. The best writers I know are trans as they can and have experienced human sexuality from both sides of the gender divide. When I am in a writing fremzy I don't read others. I like assertive stories written from the sub position as that's how I identify.

MarsBonfire -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 10:22:28 AM)
Male submissive. Generally, what I look for in really good erotic writing is a character I can identify with. I read something like Partick Califia, and am pretty stunned by not just the acts his characters perform, but also what these encounters mean to them. Pat seems to be the only writer I've read so far, that actually made me want to keep turning the pages even after all the characters lie on the floor, spent, and covered in sticky fluids... he's the only one who makes me want to know if those characters have started something real in terms of a relationship because of it. Pick up a copy of "Macho Sluts," "Boiling Point" or "Doc and Fluff." Let me know what YOU think!

latua -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 1:27:19 PM)
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SylvereApLeanan -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 1:27:53 PM)
~FR~ When I was earning my degree, my writing professors always instructed us to write from whatever POV and with whatever style of language made sense for the story. Sometimes, it's necessary to write the same story from different perspectives to find the one that works. I have found this to be one of the most useful bits of advice Ive been given and I still use it. As a reader, it doesn't matter to me which side of the kneel the POV is on as long as the emotions are genuine. Make it real and it will work.

BoundDragon -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 1:53:06 PM)
When I read erotica I can take it as it comes as long as it captures my imagination. I find written word is far more powerful than visual, a well written story can conjure up so much wonderful imagery in your mind and because it's in your mind it stimulates stronger reactions. I do find it intriguing reading from a dominant's point of view, just to get an idea of what can make them tick and what kind of thoughts go through their minds. (I tried to be dominant but it resulted in half an hour of paniced silence). When I write erotic (only as a little hobby and only when I am feeling creative) I tend to write it from a submissives point of view. The reason for this is that I can go into far more detail and express far more reactions as they are those I feel myself. Because I am not a dominant I cannot actually think the same way as a dominant and I would only be guessing at thoughts and feelings. For realism and strength of feeling I think I shall always write from a subs point of view, unless I have a dominant willing to give their take on a situation and explain their feelings and triggers.

nevergrowdup -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 3:38:16 PM)
I love reading stories on Literotica, and tend to gravitate towards the kinkier ones. To be honest, I usually find the BDSM ones boring ... and for the same reason I don't like BDSM clubs. It all seems so emotionally distant and not very erotic ... a restatement of the actions. That said, your question brings up a good point. One of my frustrations with reading erotica is that it seems like at least 3/4 of the stories that are written from a Point of View (POV) are written from the female perspective. Most writers are female, so that makes sense. But a lot of male writers choose the female POV as well. What I'd really like to read is something from a male (or dominant) POV. And I don't want just a retelling of the story. I want to get into the mind of the male. So much is written about what a woman thinks and feels throughout a story, but there's very little about what the man is thinking. Then again, maybe this is related to the same issue that leaves me unsatisfied with porn. Men are visual, so maybe the only thoughts that he has is something like, "As the cane struck her body, her back arched. As her breasts bounced up and down, I felt my manhood growing in my pants." In other words, he's turned on by what he sees. As a woman, I want the non-sexual details. I want to understand motivation. I'd rather hear something like, "She started to weep and turned her face away from me. I examined the welts on her back that I had created just a minute earlier and felt a sense of pride. I knew that I had caused her pain, perhaps more than she had ever endured. And yet she trusted me. She hadn't used the safe word. For such an outwardly confident woman, Karen was now surrendering herself to me. I was ready to claim my prize. My cock stiffened as I contemplated my next move." I want to understand WHY a dominant man acts as he does. Where is the real turn on. Is there a strategy? How does he react to something unexpected? I can't believe that the visual of a bound woman alone would be the trigger. What does it for him? Enquiring minds want to know.

CaringandReal -> RE: Reading erotica (9/19/2009 8:43:42 PM)
I'm submissive and I prefer to read erotica from the dominant's perspective. It's sexier to me, maybe because it's so foreign. Or maybe it's because I see the submissive person in the story the way the dominant does, as an object, and that is hot because unless they are a total ass, I usually indentify with the submissive in the story. When I write, however, it's always from the submissive perspective. I might want to switch (writing perspectives!) sometime though, it might be interesting and sexy to do so. Thanks for an intriguing thread.

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