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MistressDREAD -> PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (8/28/2004 4:30:48 PM)

Preditors exsist with in Our Societys, Living Enviroments
physical and virtual Worlds today. Preditors are a reality
that All of Us as Adults should be fairly forewarned about
in the World today in general for it is truly a dog E dog
World today and much of the same skills to cope with the
real world should also be headed online in the virtual
world as well. This is where not only Adults fail to remember
The basic saftey rules but also forget to pass these rules
onto Children whom also visit the virtual realities of online.
But I will not address the Kids side but only the Adults One
for this site. As Adults We should have sum knowledge and
critical thinking skills that afford Us the chance to independently
assess any type of person or situation that enters into Our
virtual world. Common sence skills and empowerment and the keeping
or giving of such away to another is what puts Us in the place
to be Preyed on by the Preditor with in Our Lifestyle. Thoughts
to remember every time to interact or speak to another person.

1.
Every person is online for a reason.
It is up to you thru deliberate questioning
to see if their reason equals yours and
a mutual relation can be aquired. If there
is anything that does not * jive then its
best to continue to seek that which fits
better.
2. You would not open your front door to a stranger
so why do so here online?
It is not a wise practice for anyone to give out
any real information of their selfs online unless
you are capable of or in the business of protection.
3. Men carry the same physical strenths online they do in real
life and Woman carry the same Mental savvy n strenth online as
they do in real life so if you have trouble dealing
with either of these keep in mind this is your weakness
that can be preyed apon if not watched by either a male or female
preditor. Preditors come in all shapes and sizes. There are
both submissive and Dominant preditors, preditors of all races
and creeds and religions and group affiliates and kink aware.


If you would not give your name or phone number to a
stranger in a mall you walked up to then you would not
do so online. I can gain virtually anyones information
online with a persons real name or address alone or even
sumthing like a phone number or even just a city
and thru the process of elimination if a preditor finds
the person they seek that has gave such info they are worth
preying on, your had. Giving readily accessable information of
self online or in real life when you do not have the
ability to protect your self and those whom might be a part
of your family in real life is a very dangerous practice.

However with in Our Lifestyle the basis for Our Integrity
is Our Honor and with that comes the back door opening
for Preditors to gain access to Our nieve, Our unprotected
and Our Lifestyler Freinds whom in all honesty are
seeking Their Mates for Play, Mates for Life, Mates for
Love. Our Lifestyle is one of Trust both Given and Recieved.
How can One Give and Recive Trust if it cannot be given from
the onset because of the unscrupulious actions of the Preditor?
Its is true that also with in Our Lifestyle are
those whom thrive on practicing Their * kinks online
rather then in real life and many of those are also
called Preditors alltho not always such in the way
that Our Lifestyle would define but Societys definitions
would. Preditors also prey on those whom have sumthing to hide.
If you live this Lifestyle without family, freinds, work, know
what you do then it is a wise move to never EVER give out anything
about your self that is real. Even if you desire to meet sumone
with in the lifestyle it is a wise move to create a total personna
that you live with in for the absolute protection of those whom
you hide from in the first place so that the Preditor does not
doubly use and abuse not only you but yours in your steed.


We have Those whom are Commanding and Demanding
without Permission and this is an accepted practice in
sum circles of Our Lifestyle. There are Those whom
Humiliate and Belittle with out Permission and this is
an accepted practice in sum circles of Our Lifestyle.
There are those whom submit with out question and this is
acceptable in Our Lifestyle as well and even those whom
Bitch moan and complain ( subs ) ~wink~smirk~.Joking....
There are Those whom do All these things and more, not
To Prey and Use then Abuse another but to simply fullfill
Their Own needs with out a commitment to anothers needs
within the bounds of Our Alternate Lifestyle Ways and use
Those of Us to full fill such needs sum times willingly and
sum things not so willing and thats where the liberation with
out consequence comes in.

In Our Lifestyle there are many Dangers, with Preditors just
being One.The types who would fall prey to an online creep
would just as easily be a victim to a creep in real life.Newbies
are best starting out here on a open board or open chat room
with their whipsers closed and not accepting any emails from
people they have not first contacted their self as much as this
is a temptation for the newbies to answer that whisper of seculartizum
or that email that pics them out of the millions of other folks
for attention usually those first contacts in privacy that are
not asked for are actually the preditors in many cases whom seen
first your vulnerabiltys being expressed here on the board and tempt to
take a hold of you befor you become savvy to their online ways.

This is one very good way that Collarme has going for it that
many on here whom are just starting out posting have on their
names vanilla. Even if you are a seasoned vetern to the Lifestyle
you start out as a vanilla and more then likely will be emailed
by every Preditor with in the first week of entering. Those of Us
with experiance weed them out and do what needs to be done to
rid such not only in real life but online as well. This is a kind
of protection that Collarme has given to the newbies whom enter
here to learn and seek out maybe with out even knowing they did so.
Of course there are many newbies whom have enough posts that they
no longer look to be new but are still learning and hopefully are
not being Preyed on. If you feel in any way that any contact that
you are having is anything less then desirable cut it off and ban
the person from being able to contact you again with out a word.
You will not be judged by your actions by those of This Lifestyle.


This is My opinion and this is where those of Us whom have the ability
even at the sake of giving those new to online a turnoff of Ones
self for the sake of knowing You tried to give simply understanding
and skills for them to start on their online paths can open
their eyes to how sum of the sweetest acting people
online here are the ones that will take your emotions
for a free ride and twist you around their finger only
to let you unwind off it to the floor and then step
all over you on their way out to their next prey. Remember
Coming online is liberation with out consequences. Those that
lived thru the 60s will well know what I speak of in that comment
and online is the new revolution of todays times that brings on
The Worlds liberation with out consequences. The standards and decencys
of Honor and Integrity and Chivalry only go as far as those of Us
whom practice its long ingrained proticals and regulations into
Our Lifestyles fabric. The decay of Societys Norm has not only
been touched with the reality of online but the moral decay
of not only main stream society but Alternate Societies as well
and have been a devastating watering down of the Alternate fabric
and character of The people whom traverse with in Our Ways
not to mention the Preditors whom take FULL advantages of
every missed stitch both with in main stream society and Our
Alternate Society as well.

Liberty requires strong individuals and Individuals whom are
willing for the sake of Lifestyles that are Alternate and not
of the norm to stand up against those whom only come here to prey
but at the same time understand that there is a distint differance
in sumone whom preys on people and sumone whom comes here to
live out a fantasy or to dabble in that which is new and exciting
to them with out giving anything in return or face consequences.
Dont put your self in a place to become the prey. Sumone whom pulls
you into their fantasy here online then ignores you when they are
done with the fantasy are not Preditors but simply those using
virtual online with out consequence. Those whom say hello to a
person online and find this person all of a suddent calling their
home, their work place and those persons cannot take no for a answer
are Preditors and you have been preyed apon and should seek official
help. Dont think you can handle them on your Own even if You are a
big bad Man with arms of steel and a mind of forgivness. ( We have
addressed such a issue on this board in the pass sum where )

The School of hard knocks which the Experianced Lifestyler has allready
lived thru provides the deepest learnings and support for Our particular
beliefs and Members but it is also the basis for the concept
of Alternates to thrive and how Our Society continues and is based.
We are very complex and diverse and extream and basically weird and
bold and docile and for sum even scarry people, so take time to
learn Our quirks and quips, kinks and differances,and become online
savvy and dont be afraid to ask questions on here that might seem
dumb or stupid or simple as even if We give answers that might seem
harsh it is a view of the person giving it and all advise both candy
coated and kirt or terse are still views and advice to whats safe and
whats not and whats acceptable for ALL the differing aspects of this
Lifestyle and Alternate ways,so befor taking on your fantasys or
a single person whom just might be the Preditor waiting here for you,
their prey. Think with your mind not your need or heart.
JMO



LadyAngelika -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (8/29/2004 8:44:35 AM)

Thanks for this Dread. I always find your posts to be often times thought provoking.

I do want to address one of the things you’ve written, which I think is the crux of it all:
quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD:
As Adults We should have sum knowledge and
critical thinking skills that afford Us the chance to independently
assess any type of person or situation that enters into Our
virtual world.


Yes we should. Unfortunately, not all adults have the requisite critical thinking skills to make wise choices.

As you might know, my path has lead me to higher education studies in the field of Education and I more specifically deal with adult & continuing education and training. I can tell you first hand that where adults are likely to fail most often are in areas that require the highest order or critical thinking skills. Repeating things verbatim seems easy enough. Summarizing is an art that can be learned. Even comparing & contrasting can be mastered but critical thinking is something that runs much deeper.

My own opinion on this is that we need to teach an individual early on, in their childhood, how to think critically. Critical thinking cannot wait until adulthood. By that time, adults have established patterns of relying on other people’s opinions to make up their own and are less likely to be motivated to come up with their own because they have gotten by thus far and it is the easy way out.

It is so very important not to let ourselves be influenced when important choices need to be made, such as “Am I going to let this person tie me up”. Agreed 100%.

To address the issue of critical thinking such as you have is important. However raising awareness is only the tip of the iceberg. Getting people to actually think critically is a whole other ball game, one with which educators of the world struggle with daily.

- LA



proudsub -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (8/29/2004 9:49:06 AM)

quote:

Critical thinking cannot wait until adulthood. By that time, adults have established patterns of relying on other people’s opinions to make up their own and are less likely to be motivated to come up with their own because they have gotten by thus far and it is the easy way out.


This is so true. I attended a private college prep school where critical thinking and analysis were strongly emphasized. Some of my friends in public schools never learned this, all their tests were simple multiple choice type questions rather than essay questions and independent thinking type questions. I don't mean to criticize public education but that's the way it was around here in the 60's. I am very grateful for the education i received.



MistressDREAD -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (8/30/2004 3:22:06 AM)

quote:

My own opinion on this is that we need to teach an individual early on, in their
childhood, how to think critically.

' I agree wholly with this and have practice this thru out My life living Im sure you can tell LA by My rather kurt way I act on this board however We are dealing here with Adults whom allready have gained what skills they have hence the only way to get those critical juices ta flowin is to stimulate those minds to words by use of such tools as directive motivation and by that directive being of a Alternate state as well or even putting to words grains that are rubbed wrongly in order to motivate that critical mind to question its self and react with each others Own word of thought or call into action that which is only thought of but not acted on and to understand that there are actually folks out here such as Me even whom could very easily be a Preditor but instead of using those skills I or they have that lend for such actions put them to a positive use and instead help those whom would become prey by showing My true self so that others can read into the mind thought and ways that sumone might act or to see ways or personalities that might lead them astray and give them the skills to protect their selfs thru learning Our differing ways.
quote:

adults have established patterns of relying on other
people’s opinions to make up their own and are less likely to be motivated to
come up with their own because they have gotten by thus far and it is the easy
way out.
This is so sadly true and as You have seen here I would never take the easy way out in My words and always set presidence for critical thinking and retaliation for this is the only tool that can be used in this kind of forum and state which actually motivates Adults into that thinking for their selfs and intermotivating their own opinions and stand up for them as well. I always say there is a method to My Madness and this is never more true then when We as Dominants come to such places as Collarme and put Our selfs up for constant question or retaliation of moral in order to create solid positioning in folks whom befor comming here were closet cases in search of more and will find here a wake up call for their protection befor finding anything else hopefully. I truly have always felt that as a Dominant it has always been My job to see to it that the passive World within My lifestyle were under My wing in sum kind of way that I must act on. JMO
quote:

To address the issue of critical thinking such as you have is important. However
raising awareness is only the tip of the iceberg. Getting people to actually
think critically is a whole other ball game, one with which educators of the
world struggle with daily.

- LA

Gawwwd aint that the truth!! All I can do is jump on the iceburg and make it shake to make folks grab a hold of the edge and think what the hell am I doing on this block of water!! Ill leave the puddle of water for You Edumacators to whipe up!! giggles........ThankYou for Your Opinion LA



LadyAngelika -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (8/30/2004 5:07:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
My own opinion on this is that we need to teach an individual early on, in their childhood, how to think critically.


I agree wholly with this and have practice this thru out My life living Im sure you can tell LA by My rather kurt way I act on this board however We are dealing here with Adults whom allready have gained what skills they have hence the only way to get those critical juices ta flowin is to stimulate those minds to words by use of such tools as directive motivation and by that directive being of a Alternate state as well or even putting to words grains that are rubbed wrongly in order to motivate that critical mind to question its self and react with each others Own word of thought or call into action that which is only thought of but not acted on and to understand that there are actually folks out here such as Me [...]

Your style is awesome Dread. I so very much appreciate a person who doesn’t beat around the bush!

By directive motivation, I’m assuming you mean a form of external motivation? The issue with external motivation (as opposed to internal, self-directed motivation) is that it requires constant reapplication, repeated reinforcement if you wish. Which can be fun when training someone <weg> but not always fun when trying to convey to people how to make life choices. And yes, it is the only way to get someone who otherwise didn’t think critically to do so.

Call me a lazy Domme but I tend to look for subs who’ve already been enlightened to a certain point in areas of self-reflection and critical thinking and are self-motivated to better themselves.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika
To address the issue of critical thinking such as you have is important. However raising awareness is only the tip of the iceberg. Getting people to actually think critically is a whole other ball game, one with which educators of the world struggle with daily.


Gawwwd aint that the truth!! All I can do is jump on the iceburg and make it shake to make folks grab a hold of the edge and think what the hell am I doing on this block of water!! Ill leave the puddle of water for You Edumacators to whipe up!! giggles........ThankYou for Your Opinion LA


That’s it! Rattle it all up then let me clean up your mess huh? Sorry not a service Domme :p

But in all seriousness, sometimes a little boat rocking (or in this case iceberg rocking) is quite necessary. Nothing in this world evolves without shaking the pillars that structures our environments.

And it is always a pleasure to exchange with you Dread.

- LA



MistressDREAD -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (9/3/2004 2:03:27 AM)

ThankYou LA.

quote:

I’m assuming you mean a form of external motivation?


Yes external motivation in a alternate way. extream, shock provoking, stern, bold, discusting, eye popping, sadistic, edgie, critically thought provoking. The quickest way to get a mind to wake up and speak!



ShrewWhisperer -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (9/3/2004 5:48:26 AM)

excellent orginal post...hope folks listen to it...but saddly unless it is drilled into people (like drunk driving ads before holidays) until they are burned some just won't.

a couple of stupid ideas you can do to protect yourself as people move through the process from cyber to live...is when it hits that phonecall stage, either nudge your dog to bark, or get a tape of a big dog barking, its amazing how many predators won't go near dogs esp. if you run the bluff of a 140 lb german shepherd.

always let it be known that you have talked to someone about the person you are beginning to get to know, again its amazing how shy folks who mean harm get when they figger someone will eventually get hip to their actions.

on intial meetings bring a friend...preferably one who is rather large and possibly heavily tattooed, I know it ruins the romance of the thing but like everything is a choice.

and don't trust in "nice"..nice too easy to fake, make sure the people you are talking to have some undernote to their character, and don't worry about being suspcious and asking questions as follow up on any given fact you are given...if its true they won't mind sharing and if it ain't then you'll more often get the anger of a "3rd degree" thrown at you.

and as we are telling our kids now...trust that little voice in your head, if the bells start going off....run! all you might lose is some sex...balance that against what you could lose



MistressDREAD -> RE: PREDITORS ON THE INTERNET AND WITHIN ALTERNATE LIFESTYLES ( or sumtimes the games people play ) (9/3/2004 5:07:19 PM)

ThankYou Shrew



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