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rulemylife -> How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 8:46:17 PM)

We've heard about Obama's service corps ideas and how they are going to indoctrinate our children.

But how much conservative indoctrination is actually taking place?

If any one saw the interviews of the "hooker and pimp" on Fox then you must realize these aren't the two brightest bulbs on the string.

Hannah Giles, who played the prostitute, delivered this eloquent commentary:


Giles told Beck in her first interview that she concocted the undercover video plan after taking a wrong turn during a jog in May, soon after arriving in Washington.

Her running route that day led her past the Washington office of ACORN, a group which, according to one mentor, she had read about but had not researched extensively.

"I was like, you know, I'd never seen them before. I don't like them," Giles told Beck. "And I came up with the idea."

So she was out like running, you know, and she just happened to like go by the Acorn offices and said omigod, I don't know who these people are but I don't like them.

Her partner James O'Keefe, which she curiously had never met before this event, was equally lacking in credibility in his response to whether any Acorn employees had rebuffed him.  And put on the spot by an interviewer from Fox News, no less, he stuttered and stammered his way through a response.

Fast forward to the 7 minute mark of the video:
ACORN Filmmaker James O'Keefe On ACORN


So we are to believe that these two thought this up on their own with no coaching and direction from politically motivated sources?

How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be

LOS ANGELES – Much of America discovered James O'Keefe III and Hannah Giles through their hidden-camera, make-believe pimp and prostitute videos of ACORN employees giving advice about establishing a brothel with underage hookers.

But as far back as 2006 — well before the videos became a national sensation and conservative rallying cry — the fresh-faced O'Keefe and Giles connected with a pair of Washington conservative institutions that boast programs training ideological journalists.

Now, due to coordinated promotion of the undercover sting footage by influential players in the conservative media, Giles and O'Keefe have gone from part of the pack to movement superstars.

Giles, a 20-year-old sophomore at Florida International University, spent the summer on a $1,200-a-month internship with the National Journalism Center, a training organization whose alumni include conservative commentator Ann Coulter.
Immediately after graduating Rutgers University in 2006, O'Keefe, 25, was paid to set up magazines and newspapers on university campuses for the Leadership Institute, which recruits potential conservative public policy and media stars.

......................There's no proof of a coordinated effort to commission the project, but O'Keefe and Giles did discuss it with several conservative activists starting at least a month before its Sept. 10 premiere. One key result of those discussions was phenomenal promotion.

The mastermind behind the release strategy was Andrew Breitbart — a Web impresario, Washington Times columnist and critic of Hollywood liberalism who was readying the launch of a new Web site, biggovernment.com.

O'Keefe approached Breitbart with his video; Breitbart said he shopped the material to a prominent network news personality at least a week before the eventual launch, but was told the network would never air it because of the politics behind it. He said he then gave Fox News the exclusive.













GCXcess -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 8:51:06 PM)

Soooooooooo....  If they didn't come up with it on their own, then that makes Acorn's actions ok?

*blinks.*




FirmhandKY -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 8:53:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GCXcess

Soooooooooo....  If they didn't come up with it on their own, then that makes Acorn's actions ok?

*blinks.*


They are desperate.

The entire "pimp and whore" thing is only what got the national attention. The more important story is their voter registration fraud, and funneling money to left, and Democratic candidates.

Firm




TheHeretic -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 8:53:48 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GCXcess

Soooooooooo....  If they didn't come up with it on their own, then that makes Acorn's actions ok?

*blinks.*



[:D]





FirmhandKY -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:00:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

quote:

ORIGINAL: GCXcess

Soooooooooo....  If they didn't come up with it on their own, then that makes Acorn's actions ok?

*blinks.*



[:D]



Their defense to the illegal and immoral activities of ACORN ... "IT'S A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!"

Everything bad originates on the right, doncha know?

Firm




rulemylife -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:06:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GCXcess

Soooooooooo....  If they didn't come up with it on their own, then that makes Acorn's actions ok?

*blinks.*



Not at all.

But are these the actions of ACORN or only a few misguided people employed by ACORN?





Arpig -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:11:08 PM)

Actually there was nothing in the quoted section that even implied they didn't come up with it on their own...so they are young rightist journalism types and they have some connections with right-leaning media organizations...GASP!!!!!! It's that vast right-wing conspiracy again.




rulemylife -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:14:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Their defense to the illegal and immoral activities of ACORN ... "IT'S A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!"

Everything bad originates on the right, doncha know?

Firm


Are you done massaging each others ass cheeks now?

If so, maybe you can tell me why an organization that has operated for 35 years is suddenly receiving so much attention.






rulemylife -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:19:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

Actually there was nothing in the quoted section that even implied they didn't come up with it on their own...so they are young rightist journalism types and they have some connections with right-leaning media organizations...GASP!!!!!! It's that vast right-wing conspiracy again.


Hmmmm!

Well, according to all sources I have seen, this was purely young Hannah's idea.

You know, the same Hannah who said she really didn't know much about ACORN but decided she didn't like them.

I guess for no apparent reason.




FirmhandKY -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:24:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

Actually there was nothing in the quoted section that even implied they didn't come up with it on their own...so they are young rightist journalism types and they have some connections with right-leaning media organizations...GASP!!!!!! It's that vast right-wing conspiracy again.


Hmmmm!

Well, according to all sources I have seen, this was purely young Hannah's idea.

You know, the same Hannah who said she really didn't know much about ACORN but decided she didn't like them.

I guess for no apparent reason.


Her father is a Christian, and a conservative commentary.

Apparently, she was raised "right". [:D]

Firm




TheHeretic -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:26:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

maybe you can tell me why an organization that has operated for 35 years is suddenly receiving so much attention.




Karma?  [:D]

Bad luck for them that the connection to President Obama shines a spotlight in their direction.  He seems to be perfectly willing to pretend he knew as little about them as he did about the preachings of his church.




FirmhandKY -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:28:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Their defense to the illegal and immoral activities of ACORN ... "IT'S A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!"

Everything bad originates on the right, doncha know?

Firm


Are you done massaging each others ass cheeks now?

If so, maybe you can tell me why an organization that has operated for 35 years is suddenly receiving so much attention.


Gee ... I wonder if Mod 11 would consider this a "gratuitous personal attack"? Or "baiting"?

As for the question about 35 years of Acorn ... it has gotten attention. If you have been paying attention. I've known about them for years, and have been watching how it operates. It's just that Democrats have given it political cover.

Firm




rulemylife -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:31:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Gee ... I wonder if Mod 11 would consider this a "gratuitous personal attack"? Or "baiting"?

As for the question about 35 years of Acorn ... it has gotten attention. If you have been paying attention. I've known about them for years, and have been watching how it operates. It's just that Democrats have given it political cover.



Gee, I wonder why you can't stand the heat and have to run and hide behind Mom's apron?

But maybe you can tell me how an organization that has existed primarily under Republican administrations and Republican controlled Congresses has been able to achieve the remarkable feat of "Democratic political cover"?







FirmhandKY -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:34:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Their defense to the illegal and immoral activities of ACORN ... "IT'S A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY!"

Everything bad originates on the right, doncha know?

Firm


Are you done massaging each others ass cheeks now?

If so, maybe you can tell me why an organization that has operated for 35 years is suddenly receiving so much attention.


Gee ... I wonder if Mod 11 would consider this a "gratuitous personal attack"? Or "baiting"?

As for the question about 35 years of Acorn ... it has gotten attention. If you have been paying attention. I've known about them for years, and have been watching how it operates. It's just that Democrats have given it political cover.

Firm


Gee, I wonder what why you can't stand the heat and have to run and hide behind Mom's apron?


If I were, I'd have reported you. I didn't. I'd rather watch you twist and wiggle.

How about addressing the issues, instead of deflecting and dancing?

You funny. I'd hate to see you banned. [:D]

Firm




rulemylife -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:41:05 PM)

I added a question, too late for your reply, that addresses the issue




DomKen -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 9:54:41 PM)

Actuallythe interesting unanswered question and the one I'm sure will ultimately reveal the sleaze behind the show, where did the money for the croos country undercover sting come from. If this was simply a couple of college students on their own dime I doubt the cross country trip would have been part of it. Why not stick to the NE and midwest and save travel time and expense? Where did the high quality concealed cameras come from? I think it was said once before, follow the money.




FirmhandKY -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 10:09:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

I added a question, too late for your reply, that addresses the issue

In answer to your added question:

But maybe you can tell me how an organization that has existed primarily under Republican administrations and Republican controlled Congresses has been able to achieve the remarkable feat of "Democratic political cover"?

I think most elected Republican lack balls.

Firm




FatDomDaddy -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 10:14:37 PM)

They've covered that Ken, including surviving on subway and buying their own tickets.

Air travel across country can be had for less than the gas money it would take to drive if you plan it right.

Good hotels on the internet, less than $50 a night.

Decent rental cars on the net less than $25 a day.

The budget was around $3000, I am guessing Andrew Breibart paid quite a bit more when he saw what they had.

OH... and anyone who doubts the simple style... Just go look at how foolish he made Rutgers look when he got them to ban Lucky Charms from the Student Dining Halls based on General Mills racist portrayal of the Irish.... Brilliant stuff




rulemylife -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 10:17:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Actuallythe interesting unanswered question and the one I'm sure will ultimately reveal the sleaze behind the show, where did the money for the croos country undercover sting come from. If this was simply a couple of college students on their own dime I doubt the cross country trip would have been part of it. Why not stick to the NE and midwest and save travel time and expense? Where did the high quality concealed cameras come from? I think it was said once before, follow the money.


No really. this was like Hannah's idea and like, you know, she saved her money, like from collecting cans and you know, things like that and then she really didn't like those ACORN people she knew nothing about so she like, you know just contacted O'Keefe who like she didn't know but had so totally heard about him.

So like, what's to question here?




TheHeretic -> RE: How the ACORN 'pimp and hooker' videos came to be (9/23/2009 10:19:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife

But maybe you can tell me how an organization that has existed primarily under Republican administrations and Republican controlled Congresses has been able to achieve the remarkable feat of "Democratic political cover"?




Very simple, RML.  They play the race card.  Support us, and we WON'T call you a racist.  This is a very sleazy bunch, and have been for a long time.




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