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fastlane -> Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:08:20 PM)
[:D] I prefer that you all love me, but , to tolerate is good enough .Just don't be HATE'N...LOL... Question is? How do you deal with a submissive that is giving you mixed signals? Tolerate her, call her on the carpet, dump her ass and move on, give her alternatives, set ground rules...become totally Dominant and put the potential relationship at risk because you demand too much, be patient...and wait and wait and wait, or just say hell with women/subs/potential collars and lifelong partners...new day, new lap dance, new laptop computer, new expectations? I dunno...I hate to admit it, but I'm a bit confused....I need my Master Pills! Thanks for allowing me the rant, Kevin

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:10:37 PM)
I call to the carpet, with "I" statements. "I"m very confused when you do this and that, it makes me very confused about what you really want, can you try and explain?"

SimplyV -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:19:17 PM)
Could be that she's confused as well. Sit down and talk with her. Set up some hard boundaries that you both agree on.. and work from there? Not really sure what the "confusion" is in particular.. so I'm just talking out of my ass right now.

fastlane -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:29:53 PM)
quote: "I"m very confused when you do this and that, it makes me very confused about what you really want, can you try and explain?" Yes L.A. I will try to explain. Fastlane sits and puts his head in his hands and ponders....and ponders..and ponders....NO, I can't explain. I guess I am just seeing how much patience anyone else would have when they were confused about where a relationship may be heading.....or not heading? I think I have answered my own question. Kevin

SimplyV -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:34:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane quote: "I"m very confused when you do this and that, it makes me very confused about what you really want, can you try and explain?" Yes L.A. I will try to explain. Fastlane sits and puts his head in his hands and ponders....and ponders..and ponders....NO, I can't explain. I guess I am just seeing how much patience anyone else would have when they were confused about where a relationship may be heading.....or not heading? I think I have answered my own question. Kevin Uh oh.. I think we're heading for a tunnel. Everyone to your seats, and put on your seatbelts!

RavenMuse -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:35:19 PM)
From what you've said this isn't just happened today, this is something you've already been tollerating for a while? Personaly I'd call her on it, you are obviously not comfortable with the behaviour so... your a Dom, challenge it.... else you need to look at the relationship and decide wether it is or is going to be a D/s relationship. Explain the actions that are causing mixed signals, listen to what she has to say, decide what is needing done about it (Taking what she said into consideration but remembering that it is YOU who has to make the decision if this IS a D/s relationship) then enforce it. There is just as much a risk of things going wrong by not doing something as there is from acting on it. What you've said there doesn't give any indication if she is pushing bounderys because she needs you to be more of a Dom or if she is questioning just how sub she is. You need to talk these things over with her and find out.

yourMissTress -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:49:35 PM)
Hi, was it all that long ago that you were in the middle of some terribly dramatic messy relationship type thingy??? I am confused as to why you are in another so quickly. Not judging, just confused.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 1:52:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane I guess I am just seeing how much patience anyone else would have when they were confused about where a relationship may be heading.....or not heading? I think I have answered my own question. Kevin My question was meant to be an example of how you should approach the other person. YOU are the confused person here. Blaming the other person isn't helpful. By taking ownership of your feelings, not blaming the other person for them AND giving them an opportunity to help you clarify- it provides good communication while avoiding unnecessarily hurt feelings as much as possible. Patience and work and time is a key necessity for any relationship to work in the long term.

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 2:15:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane Question is? How do you deal with a submissive that is giving you mixed signals? Tolerate her, call her on the carpet, dump her ass and move on, give her alternatives, set ground rules...become totally Dominant and put the potential relationship at risk because you demand too much, be patient...and wait and wait and wait, or just say hell with women/subs/potential collars and lifelong partners...new day, new lap dance, new laptop computer, new expectations? I dunno...I hate to admit it, but I'm a bit confused....I need my Master Pills! Thanks for allowing me the rant, Kevin My god man!! You need to reach down, grab your twig and giggle berries and sound off like you got a pair!! Haul her ass to the carpet and ask "Whats going on? Do you really want something with me or not? Where is this going and what happened to all my underwear?!?" Be pro-active. Not re-active. You know as well as I do that there are more out there. Too many for you to be hung up on one that's indecisive about whether she want in your pool or not. Now grab your helmet and whip and take that hill!

MHOO314 -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 2:24:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane quote: "I"m very confused when you do this and that, it makes me very confused about what you really want, can you try and explain?" Yes L.A. I will try to explain. Fastlane sits and puts his head in his hands and ponders....and ponders..and ponders....NO, I can't explain. I guess I am just seeing how much patience anyone else would have when they were confused about where a relationship may be heading.....or not heading? I think I have answered my own question. Kevin and if you reach for the Jack tonite, stay off the computer. It is never easy when the one we want does not want us, I am sure we all have been there at one time or another--but life has many doors, when one closes another opens--all for a reason--it does not make it easy, but it must be what it must be---life goes on, you need to decide to or continue to wait--but only You know that answer.

fastlane -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 3:42:41 PM)
RavenMuse...always insightful..thanks YourMistress..."No", that was someone else? well if it wasn't....SO? Mistress H...you know how I feel about you......Lucky Boy! L.A. always good advice and post...I think I confuse myself more than others confuse me, but I still love to hear your opionions. Helmet on...Jack, locked up...fastlane picks up the phone and dials....I'll get an answer! pedals fall as the telephone rings.."she loves me, she loves me not!" "She loves me!"

Kinkypupper -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 4:15:07 PM)
Sit down and have a good long face-face if you can agree great if not then part on good terms

amayos -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 4:28:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane Question is? How do you deal with a submissive that is giving you mixed signals? Tolerate her, call her on the carpet, dump her ass and move on, give her alternatives, set ground rules...become totally Dominant and put the potential relationship at risk because you demand too much, be patient...and wait and wait and wait, or just say hell with women/subs/potential collars and lifelong partners...new day, new lap dance, new laptop computer, new expectations? I dunno...I hate to admit it, but I'm a bit confused....I need my Master Pills! Thanks for allowing me the rant, Kevin My god man!! You need to reach down, grab your twig and giggle berries and sound off like you got a pair!! Haul her ass to the carpet and ask "Whats going on? Do you really want something with me or not? Where is this going and what happened to all my underwear?!?" Be pro-active. Not re-active. You know as well as I do that there are more out there. Too many for you to be hung up on one that's indecisive about whether she want in your pool or not. Now grab your helmet and whip and take that hill! * Agrees I tend to "call a submissive on something" immediately. The longer you display indecisiveness, the more confused the relations will become. In my experience, submissive females often want, respect and enjoy a dominant male who is direct. If you feel she is in the end unsuitable, move on.

PenelopePitstop -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 4:28:54 PM)
Signals are useless really, because it relies on you having a failsafe ability to interpret them, independent of past experiences, depth of knowledge blah de blah de blah. It's almost a less reliable indicator of what's really going on than text messaging. Damn I hate text messaging. Go with LA's suggestion: she knows what she's talking about (and I bet is seldom ever wrong about these things).

chercher -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 4:45:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline4 quote: ORIGINAL: fastlane Question is? How do you deal with a submissive that is giving you mixed signals? Tolerate her, call her on the carpet, dump her ass and move on, give her alternatives, set ground rules...become totally Dominant and put the potential relationship at risk because you demand too much, be patient...and wait and wait and wait, or just say hell with women/subs/potential collars and lifelong partners...new day, new lap dance, new laptop computer, new expectations? I dunno...I hate to admit it, but I'm a bit confused....I need my Master Pills! Thanks for allowing me the rant, Kevin My god man!! You need to reach down, grab your twig and giggle berries and sound off like you got a pair!! Haul her ass to the carpet and ask "Whats going on? Do you really want something with me or not? Where is this going and what happened to all my underwear?!?" Be pro-active. Not re-active. You know as well as I do that there are more out there. Too many for you to be hung up on one that's indecisive about whether she want in your pool or not. Now grab your helmet and whip and take that hill! Apologies all round, I know I have no business on this thread. I sound and feel a lot like the submissive described in the original post. I am not quite sure who I am or what I want...because my experience is so limited. I can absolutely say that - understanding that it may be easier said than done...Mr D's response got my attention, and my longing. Be well, CherCher

nonuts4thshoney -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 5:06:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 My god man!! You need to reach down, grab your twig and giggle berries and sound off like you got a pair!! OMG that was too funny! [:D]

MHOO314 -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 5:24:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nonuts4thshoney quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 My god man!! You need to reach down, grab your twig and giggle berries and sound off like you got a pair!! OMG that was too funny! [:D] Yeah I have to admit I don't always agree with Mr D but THIS was a scream.

yourMissTress -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 5:25:22 PM)
quote: quote: ORIGINAL: nonuts4thshoney quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 My god man!! You need to reach down, grab your twig and giggle berries and sound off like you got a pair!! OMG that was too funny! Yeah I have to admit I don't always agree with Mr D but THIS was a scream. My thoughts exactly MH.

Evanesce -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 8:38:18 PM)
quote: How do you deal with a submissive that is giving you mixed signals? Tolerate her, call her on the carpet, dump her ass and move on, give her alternatives, set ground rules...become totally Dominant and put the potential relationship at risk because you demand too much, be patient...and wait and wait and wait, or just say hell with women/subs/potential collars and lifelong partners...new day, new lap dance, new laptop computer, new expectations? Call her on it. She won't respect you if you don't. And if she's unwilling or unable to behave as you expect her to, move on. Life's too short to waste it on guessing games.

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Love me, hate me. or Tolerate me (3/1/2006 9:30:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chercher Apologies all round, I know I have no business on this thread. I sound and feel a lot like the submissive described in the original post. I am not quite sure who I am or what I want...because my experience is so limited. I can absolutely say that - understanding that it may be easier said than done...Mr D's response got my attention, and my longing. Be well, CherCher It was the part about grabbing his helmet and whip that got you didn't it? It gets everyone. [;)]

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