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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/2/2009 11:40:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		wordiness is great.. especially when it is as well said as your post.  Just, if you could break things into paragraphs, is all :)   And I agree.  Lying does suck ass wherever and whenever it occurs.

But I do take issue at the OP lumping all trans-folks into one group and essentially calling EVERYONE of them liars.  WHich he/she has done in prior posts.


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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/2/2009 11:59:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree! Lumping people together is inherently wrong and leads to unneeded prejudice we don't need in the community as a whole.
Sorry for not breaking up my post with paragraphs I was unsure if it would format in that form, now I know. LOL!

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/3/2009 12:02:59 AM   
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just to reiterate:

the OP claims to be transGENDERED.. and is spouting off TG hate...  disguised as *ahem*  research.

*snort*




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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/3/2009 1:09:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hugs back and thanks for the heads up and I’ve seen this kind of *ahem* research before too. Perhaps a voice of reason is called for then, or not. LOL!

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/3/2009 5:50:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cosmicowgurl
I believe once guilt is removed from the equation perhaps the need for deception will vanish as well, one can only hope anyway.

A very good point. In a less intolerant society, I'm sure crossdressers would not be as worried about the possibility of getting beaten up or even killed, and this would lead to less of them attempting to hide stuff.

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/3/2009 10:51:17 AM   
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Now having said all that, what I see from my prospective an appalling lack of honesty among some individuals in our community for which, there is no excuse for their deception. I personally believe in being honest right up front and I think if anyone reads my profile, they can easily see who and what I am so I tried to prevent any surprises. So understandably, some folks who think they are getting one thing only to discover they have been deceived can get a little pissed.


Here is your A-men!!

Your whole post was well thought out an reasonable.
I still stand by my statement on another board from the same OP, penis=male
vagina=female.

pre-op, mental state, living as, etc and so on are all qualifiers which should be disclosed as well as sex.  but that all boils down to honesty.

PS you look a hell of lot better than I do all made up.  I couldn't pass for female in a prison.


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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/3/2009 10:56:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KYsissy
PS you look a hell of lot better than I do all made up.  I couldn't pass for female in a prison.



Jessie and his big white friend Beh'na'd would like the pleasure of your company in Attica cellblock C dayroom, this evening.

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/3/2009 11:18:34 AM   
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Jessie and his big white friend Beh'na'd would like the pleasure of your company in Attica cellblock C dayroom, this evening.


Yeah but they still want me to put a bra on backwards so they can pretend.


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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/17/2009 2:41:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		So many of the comments around things "Trans" on this site are just disgustingly ignorant, disrespectful and often downright homophobic.

MissLeslie 
I think its highly irresponsible when  people present manufactured BULLS DROPPINGS as FACT
I am so thankful that important decisions in our society are made by respected institutions who carefully consider the knowledge and thinking contributed by suitably qualified individuals .... that rules Leslie and I out.

Now unless I missed something.
WHO APPOINTED LESLIE IN CHARGE OF ALL THINGS SEX AND GENDER???
You got balls Leslie I gotta hand it to you!

Whether you like it or not.....
If an individual diagnosed as Transsexual, completes the required treatment including being approved for and undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery (slightly different for Female to Male Transsexuals) then
SOCIETY LEGALLY AND OTHERWISE RECOGNIZES THEIR AFFIRMED FEMALE (OR MALE) STATUS

So you hang onto your precious beliefs about who and why you are what you think you are.
It obviously doesn't make you happy. I don't even think it makes you desirable. Its ugly. Its sad.
As for me. I'm not really interested. "Come along little puppy girl .. lets go home."









I absolutely go livid

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/17/2009 12:16:18 PM   
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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/18/2009 1:12:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I will agree that there is way too much misunderstanding about this behavior which is a surprise to me. I was hoping perhaps in this community there would be more enlightenment than in the general public. Sadly I think it’s about the same from what I’ve read thus far just goes to show more education is necessary.
However having said that I see all too many times the Transsexual themselves are consumed with self delusion and perhaps from my prospective are just as confusion about who and what they are as those they may deceive. I believe they are able to convince themselves of truly being the opposite gender in their minds and deluding themselves into believing that some how with sex reassignment surgery this will cure all their problems not only in their gender dysphoria but also in their lives in general, I like to think of this as magical thinking and most often masks other more serious underlying problems that go unaddressed. I don’t mean this to be mean spirited or as an indictment of Transsexuals but as an observation with comment. If you can’t be honest with yourself then I guess one can’t really be honest with others.
Perhaps when addressing gender on this site the OP’s may want to consider expanding the selections to better and more comfortably allowing Transsexuals to better label themselves to avoid further confusion and discourse that omissions weather intended or not may cause, this is just a constructive suggestion they may want to consider. 

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 3:28:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are lots of women on CollarMe
Many, may or may not have a transsexual background.
They ALL likely have Birth Certificates that read Sex = Female
So if nothing else - remember that The Law is on their side!!!!

A LITTLE SECRET
I don't want to be bothered by you ugly bigots so under my REAL profile I share ongoing exchange with some 30 or so females. No less than 11 of these lovely women at some time shared a certain aspect of their past with me. I respect the fact they did. I certainly didn't feel cheated or offended.They are legally what they say they are and I recognize that, not to mention that the pics we have exchanged are ... HOT.
In a few cases I did feel that it explained something about their manner. In other cases it did nothing but increase the respect I have for them: they are so clearly feminine and I could not see them any other way ... particularly the ones I've tied up and abused. Wow. At the same time I have bypassed hundreds of women on CM who I simply didn't find attractive at all. Ugly, bitchy, ignorant, deadbeats, with neglected bodies and bad attitudes. Many were clearly messed up. Some were using CM simply as a way out of some ugly situation they had got themselves into. They weren't into kink at all. yuk yuk

So by all means
be disrespectful - spread your hate - show your ignorance
It says more about you than your targets
Because you are an individual & you have shown everyone here what you are
Whereas they are all safe behind the label you threw at them ..
(mutters away ... " .. how stupid can these people be ... ")
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So wingedone .. having done its flap .. departs from the presence of ugliness.

PS cosmicowgurl! Aside from being a cosmic-cow WHAT THE F&&) ARE YOU????


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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 4:42:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WIngedOne

There are lots of women on CollarMe
Many, may or may not have a transsexual background.
They ALL likely have Birth Certificates that read Sex = Female
So if nothing else - remember that The Law is on their side!!!!





Last time I checked, there was no way of getting your birth certificate changed if you have a sex change operation. Where exactly is this happening?


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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 9:36:48 AM   
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It's entirely possible that the OP is still around and has just hidden her profile.  After being called on a couple of points, such as her saying in her posts that she is married, but it wasn't listed on her profile (I'm so tempted to say pot meet kettle) and some of the personal exchanges that were prompted in cmail over this thread, it wouldn't surprise Me a bit if it's either hidden or deleted
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I'm confused, aren't LP & the OP one & the same?

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 9:51:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The opinion of one who really has no dog in this fight- I am not trans, don't cross dress, don't chase after either.

There are a dizzying array of options out there- heteros who cross dress, gays who cross dress, transgenders who cross dress, pre-op, post-op, those who identify as women, those who identify as men but prefer to live as women, and a multitude of variations if the different factors.

Ultimately, though I don't care. I really don't.

What someone calls themself doesn't affect me, and I don't get my boxers in a bunch over it, whether it is biologically true or not.
What I do care about, is living in a society where we value and respect each other's personal freedom, and right to pursue happiness as they see it.
This isn't a platitude, this is the core of our civic beliefs.
I do get my boxers in a bunch when I see the eternal blooming of snobbery, only this time it is those with XX DNA somehow considered more twue, more authentic than those who transgender. The snobbery is usually veiled under the earnest desire to "set the record straight" or "Truthfullness". Of course on a strictly scientific level, yes, XX Dna means one thing, XY transgendered means another. Got it. And some transgender people are in fact entangled in other pychological issues, that may or may not be helped by gender reassignment.

But it isn't your life.
Really, it isn't.
If it irks you that some guy is running around after reassignment surgery telling everyone that he is a female, and not sending out an officewide email saying "Hey I got my dick cut off, just thought you might like to know" then I think the problem is with you, not them.

Setting other people straight on what their sexual identity is, is as offensive as setting them straight about what their religious belifs should be.
Let it go.

Just let. it. go.

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 10:48:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Last time I checked, there was no way of getting your birth certificate changed if you have a sex change operation.

When was the last time you checked?  States have been amending or issuing new birth certificates after SRS for decades.  To the best of my knowledge, there are only a few states that do not do this today (Idaho, Ohio, South Carolina and Tennessee).

~stef

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 12:14:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Last time I checked, there was no way of getting your birth certificate changed if you have a sex change operation.

When was the last time you checked?  States have been amending or issuing new birth certificates after SRS for decades.  To the best of my knowledge, there are only a few states that do not do this today (Idaho, Ohio, South Carolina and Tennessee).

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About 5 years ago when my exroommate was told he could get his drivers license changed, but not his birth certificate.


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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 1:00:54 PM   
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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 3:42:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VirginPotty

I'm confused, aren't LP & the OP one & the same?


Run, Potty Run!  Before LadyPact hurts you (and not in that good slutty way that you like).

The OP just used the same font color as LadyPact.  That's all.

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RE: Misrepresentation By Crossdressers Concerning Their... - 10/21/2009 5:24:09 PM   
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I'm confused, aren't LP & the OP one & the same?

Ummmm, no. I think you might want to take Cali's advice here, Potty....


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