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Respect - 3/1/2006 8:38:04 PM   
GymRatwithballs


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Status: offline 		please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?
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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 8:43:20 PM   
Evanesce


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please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?


Speaking from my Domme side, I'd have to say I wouldn't want a sub or slave I DIDN'T respect, but I'm curious as to why you'd want a Domme who didn't.

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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 8:51:09 PM   
GymRatwithballs


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Status: offline 		Perhaps I have the description of respect all wrong.
Why I wouldn't?
I'm a man / male! Isn't respect the description given for someone who idleizes, thinks the most of,desires to be in thier shoes,(per say),wants to be just like them,wants them as a buddy or a friend?
What is your description of respect?

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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 9:03:10 PM   
september


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Status: offline 		Respect comes from within. I mean you can MAKE someone respect you. But when it is pushed, then the pushed one generally finds some sort of way to get revenge through passive aggression. Those that want to deal with respectful people have a standard. You can call it trust or whatever but, for me, I don't want some piece of paper around me. Those people are boring and I need a challenge. I am somewhat dominant even in the vanilla world but I don't want to be around people I can walk all over. Respect is a clear concept of bondaries. I know in this world we seek to forego bondaries but some must be present, everyone has to have something to bring to the table.

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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 9:13:28 PM   
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Isn't respect the description given for someone who idleizes, thinks the most of,desires to be in thier shoes,(per say),wants to be just like them,wants them as a buddy or a friend?


I'd tend to call that idolization. Or perhaps hero worship.

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What is your description of respect?


Got a dictionary handy? Aside from the basic Webster's definition, it's also the recognition of a person's worth. To me, if a slave had no worth, why would I want them?

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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 9:14:53 PM   
Misstoyou


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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?


Because if I don't respect you and think you're a person of value, I'd have no interest in owning you. I deserve only the best.

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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 10:35:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?

If you would rather find a Mistress who does not respect you, you can. No one is telling you that you have to find a Mistress who respects you. I do, however, believe that is she does respect you, you are going to be more inclined to respect yourself. I cant respect anyone who does not respect himself/herself. I should think that you would want the very best in your choice for a Mistress, just as she would like to have the very best in her choice for a submissive. Respect for each other goes a long way in finding each other and having a healthy D/s relationship.

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RE: Respect - 3/1/2006 10:47:12 PM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		You should find a Mistress that respects you so that she has regard for your welfare.

Think about this, say you owned something you didnt have any respect for, you wouldnt treat it very well and you wouldnt care what happened to the item.

If you want a Mistress to treat your harshly or even degredate you, thats fine, there are many Mistresses that would be into that, it doesnt mean she wouldnt have respect for you.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 12:12:32 AM   
MsPurrmeow


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Status: offline 		re·spect (rĭ-spĕkt') pronunciation
tr.v., -spect·ed, -spect·ing, -spects.

1. To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem.
2. To avoid violation of or interference with: respect the speed limit.
3. To relate or refer to; concern.

I would not want to waste my time on a person for whom I had nor respect. I wouldn't waste my time on them at all, much less instructing or training them. I would get no pleasure from a person I did not respect.

Respect is about value. If you want a tyrant who has no respect for others, I'm sure you can pay someone for that hour-long session, or find a temporary hookup here and there. In order to have something ongoing, some level of value in your time and efforts probably needs to exist at some level. For a real relationship, there definitely has to be some level of value placed in a slave in order to trust and rely on them to obey. I cannot trust you to obey without placing some value in you. I cannot trust you intimately at all without some 'respect' that you will follow through.

This IS a two-way street out here in the real world of D/s, and most of us are pretty clear on that. There is always the fantasy of a session with a tyrant and a slave with no value, but it's not realistic for the long-term for most people. You'll find a few who claim it, but be cautious.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 12:36:20 AM   
BitaTruble


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please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?


Your profile is hilarious and you're damn cute. As for seeking a Domme who respects you.. it's all a matter of personal choice and taste. Seek what you want and that's what you'll find.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 6:17:33 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?


Why would you want someone who didn't respect you as a human being?

If you mean respect you as a person, then that's a factor of getting to know each other well enough and finding compatiblity. That can only be a bonus in terms of getting what you both want even if what you want is to give yourself over completely or totally (it goes so much easier when you are compatible to begin with).

On the flip side, why I or any other dominant, want someone I didn't respect? Could I trust them in my house, with my household, or with me if I didn't respect to some degree?


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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 6:24:37 AM   
thetammyjo


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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

Perhaps I have the description of respect all wrong.
Why I wouldn't?
I'm a man / male! Isn't respect the description given for someone who idleizes, thinks the most of,desires to be in thier shoes,(per say),wants to be just like them,wants them as a buddy or a friend?
What is your description of respect?


Here's some dictionary definitions:

"To feel or show deferential regard for; esteem"
"To avoid violation of or interference with "
"To relate or refer to; concern"
"feeling of appreciative"
"state of being regarded with honor or esteem"
"willingness to show consideration or appreciation"
"to be polite"
"to have value"
"to treat with consideration"

Note this is a huge word that can cover a lot of things.

I, personally, want to own someone that I feel has value, I have concern for, and even whom I can saw "Wow, look what he can do/think/feel". Someone who kneels to me and serves me but who also has my respect is giving me so much more with his service than someone I don't respect. Odds are I don't even want to be near someone I don't respect.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 8:56:12 AM   
MHOO314


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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?



Why wouldn't you?

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 9:23:05 AM   
Evanesce


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Your profile is hilarious and you're damn cute. As for seeking a Domme who respects you.. it's all a matter of personal choice and taste. Seek what you want and that's what you'll find.


I hadn't even looked at the profile until you said this, Celeste, but Gymrat... if you can really do all that stuff... heck, I'll learn to disrespect you all you want. I've got a three-story house (see the 2nd pic in my profile) in need of paint, insulation and new wallpaper, and I'm not looking forward to doing it all myself this spring. You'd have to move to Indiana, of course. And I'd have to do a LOT of whip practice, 'cause I suck at whip throwing.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 12:30:42 PM   
BeeQueen


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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?



i d rather want to know y u ask this question ----especially in the way u asked it

Bee

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 12:38:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

quote:

Your profile is hilarious and you're damn cute. As for seeking a Domme who respects you.. it's all a matter of personal choice and taste. Seek what you want and that's what you'll find.


I hadn't even looked at the profile until you said this, Celeste, but Gymrat... if you can really do all that stuff... heck, I'll learn to disrespect you all you want. I've got a three-story house (see the 2nd pic in my profile) in need of paint, insulation and new wallpaper, and I'm not looking forward to doing it all myself this spring. You'd have to move to Indiana, of course. And I'd have to do a LOT of whip practice, 'cause I suck at whip throwing.


*rolls on the floor laughing*

OMG.. I didn't say it.. but I had the same thoughts.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 2:14:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Evanesce

quote:

Your profile is hilarious and you're damn cute. As for seeking a Domme who respects you.. it's all a matter of personal choice and taste. Seek what you want and that's what you'll find.


I hadn't even looked at the profile until you said this, Celeste, but Gymrat... if you can really do all that stuff... heck, I'll learn to disrespect you all you want. I've got a three-story house (see the 2nd pic in my profile) in need of paint, insulation and new wallpaper, and I'm not looking forward to doing it all myself this spring. You'd have to move to Indiana, of course. And I'd have to do a LOT of whip practice, 'cause I suck at whip throwing.


LOL, I'll share the cost to move him here here as long as you're willing to share him ... we need dog fencing and privacy fencing put up, as well as ductwork repaired, siding repaired, the deck rebuilt, a new deck and sidewalk in the front ... I'll just stop there.

To the OP - I'm with the other Ladies who have posted. I would never own someone that I didn't respect. Holly and I both care deeply for our boys, and that was the plan from the start - this is a long term arrangement (we are planning two marriages for this summer) and that just isn't possible if there is not mutual respect.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 3:54:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes

(we are planning two marriages for this summer)



Congratulations!

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 6:13:05 PM   
Submotive


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ORIGINAL: GymRatwithballs

please tell me why as a sub male I should be seeking a Domme who respects me?


UNBELIEVABLE!!!! That's all i can say. Whatever yanks your chain there guy.

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RE: Respect - 3/2/2006 6:31:04 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		Well, there is no answer to this question, you really shouldn't........

You know it, I know it, everyone here knows it......

You have been noticed somewhat as was your intention....

Not sure it would really get you alotta girls, but you sort it out.....

How can I say this and be an equivalent ass? I am not looking for the same kinda girls you are.........

But you will do well, pilgrim........

Way better than the oft forgotten, How do Mistresses feel about vaginal lube on a dildo rammed up mr. brown-eye during forced farting on my face play?

LOL,
Ron

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