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RE: A Post-America World - 9/29/2009 4:54:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Pahunk if you read about WW2 The UK sold just about everything they owned to pay for American goods, before the lease lend scheme even started.


The thing- is we are heading toward major war. We learn nothing from history.   It is all corrupt. 

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RE: A Post-America World - 9/29/2009 4:55:56 PM   
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Polite- please tell me more.

I am sorry to be short with you.



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RE: A Post-America World - 9/29/2009 5:02:01 PM   
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... Being the giver that I am, I am happy to oblige: ...

Thank you AnimusRex. I had limited myself to only certain documents. I will be searching out and reading more from the Founding Fathers personal statements, letters, addresses, and such.

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RE: A Post-America World - 9/30/2009 1:39:53 AM   
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Polite- please tell me more.

I am sorry to be short with you.





No worries my friend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_and_carry_(World_War_II)

Take a look at this wiki link, also the one on the same page about "Destroyers for Bases"  Basically Britain was trading anything it had. The public were asked to donate any gold rings ect and silver, so it could be sold in order to buy much needed material. Land was also sold or leased to the US in return for destroyers.

I will find more info when I have time, I Hope this helps.

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RE: A Post-America World - 9/30/2009 1:56:50 AM   
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Mnot, wierdly enough, neither of the links you posted had much of anything to do with the behavior of the founders of the Country.

The desire to invade West into Indian country, which was forbidden by the Crown, was one of the main reasons for the founding of the country in the first place. If you ever read American history (the real stuff, not the sanitized public school shit) you would realise the idea of an peacefull America content within its borders is nonsense. Our entire history from Day on was Manifest Destiny and western expansion. We annexed hundreds of our neighborring nations. We invaded Libya, Monroe Doctrine, the list is endless.

Anyone who read about the Ohio War under George Washington knows the ideas that, "The original vision of America by the Founding Fathers was exactly that, an America that was peaceful, restrained, and content within its borders, and America that was a good neighbor and cooperated with the world community." is utter nonsense. The famillies and children of the chiefs were taken back to Washington as hostages, after a brutal war of extermination and expansion.

The only way the statement I quoted and stated to be bullshit can be considered seriously is massive racism. That the Natives and African, simply don't count.

Should we pick a side in the China Taiwan issue or Isreal Palestine, that's debatable. But a completely different issue. But the founders were sending troops accross the ocean to ensure our security from the times of the founders.

To believe anything else is just ignorant.

The founders played hardball on a global scale, and had not a qulam about sending American soldiers out to make the nation stronger.

There is a group in the USA today with a nonsense Disney version of History. It's dangerous.

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RE: A Post-America World - 9/30/2009 2:12:49 AM   
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as long as there are non yanks sucking the dong of hip hop culture and being wannabe "gangstas" , making lame-ass sit coms (including muslim sitcoms) there will be no such thing as a Post America world.

America will be extant.

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