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ThatDamnedPanda -> Tsunami, Anyone? (9/29/2009 9:14:15 PM)

Anyone else on the West Coast heading down to the ocean tonight to see if they can see the tsunami coming in? The high tide plus the hellishly high winds we're having in Northern California today might make for a good show. The first waves are supposed to be hitting LA right about now, and building in intensity for several hours. I'm in Monterey tonight, so it should hit here in about 15 or 20 minutes. They're saying a surge of 8 to 24 inches, but I'll be staying well back just to be on the safe side. There's a beach a mile south of Monterey called Monastery Beach, with a 15 or 20-foot height above the water. That should be a good place to see it, although I have to confess that the fact the locals sometimes refer to it as "Mortuary Beach" because of all the people who drown there does give me a little pause.

But not much. I can hang back about 100 yards or so from the surf, and that should be more than enough space for just a 2-foot surge on a 20-foot high beach. At any rate, I'm heading out now. If any of you Angelenos get a little too close and wind up getting swept away, wave as you go by. I know some nice restaurants here in Monterey if we can get you fished out.




NormalOutside -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/29/2009 9:23:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda
wave

You funny :)




BeingChewsie -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/29/2009 10:48:19 PM)

We are down south in Newport Beach. We stayed out and watched until about 10:00. Quite a few people came out to watch, they didn't clear the beaches here, so must not have been expecting anything major, and we didn't see too much. I can hear the surf still pounding pretty good out there though.

Enjoy Monterey, we are heading up there for a long weekend October 22nd! I can't wait.


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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

Anyone else on the West Coast heading down to the ocean tonight to see if they can see the tsunami coming in? The high tide plus the hellishly high winds we're having in Northern California today might make for a good show. The first waves are supposed to be hitting LA right about now, and building in intensity for several hours. I'm in Monterey tonight, so it should hit here in about 15 or 20 minutes. They're saying a surge of 8 to 24 inches, but I'll be staying well back just to be on the safe side. There's a beach a mile south of Monterey called Monastery Beach, with a 15 or 20-foot height above the water. That should be a good place to see it, although I have to confess that the fact the locals sometimes refer to it as "Mortuary Beach" because of all the people who drown there does give me a little pause.

But not much. I can hang back about 100 yards or so from the surf, and that should be more than enough space for just a 2-foot surge on a 20-foot high beach. At any rate, I'm heading out now. If any of you Angelenos get a little too close and wind up getting swept away, wave as you go by. I know some nice restaurants here in Monterey if we can get you fished out.





DomKen -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/29/2009 11:57:48 PM)

Tsunamis aren't terribly visible unless you about to be killed by it. It's not going to be some miles long wave sweeping towards shore. It will be more like the tide suddenly goes out, much worse than the worst ebb tide you've ever seen, and then the tide comes back in really really fast and very high which might make a noticeable wave but you'll be dead if you see it so....




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 12:09:50 AM)

HAH!  The Blue Lagoon in Santa Cruz might be living up to its name quite soon...

(yeah, okay, it's evil, but you lot are in NO danger and we've already lost a Tazzie woman to this, so I get to make jokes at the expense of Cali which will suffer sweet-shit-all).




Arpig -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 12:28:41 AM)

a 2' wave? How would you even notice that?




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 1:00:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

a 2' wave? How would you even notice that?


It actually was quite noticeable, which surprised me somewhat. It wasn't that the waves were 2' feet high; it was that theoretically the water level of the ocean was supposed to be as much as 2 feet higher. I'm not sure it got that high, but for a period of time, the volume of water surging up onto the beach was significantly greater. In the space of a couple of minutes, the roar of the surf became very much louder, and the surf line advanced 40 or 50 feet higher up the beach. It really was quite impressive, and I'm glad I drove over to see it. I look forward to reading in the local paper tomorrow what the height of the surge actually was.




Vendaval -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 1:06:40 AM)

I am erring on the side of caution and not heading to the local beaches while this is going on.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 1:10:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I am erring on the side of caution and not heading to the local beaches while this is going on.


Then I'm confused. Which beaches are you going to head to? [sm=meh.gif]




DesFIP -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 10:33:52 AM)

2' higher than normal! Yikes, that is high. I've been out at the beach house during hurricanes and seen that. Very worrying when you're afraid the next wave will top the dunes and cause damage.




Ialdabaoth -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 4:21:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

a 2' wave? How would you even notice that?


Have you ever noticed that the sand at the beach slopes down very gently towards the water?

Go grab a piece of notebook paper and a pencil, and come back.


Now, draw a line from one side of the paper to the other, that starts on one rule-line, and ends on the rule-line 2 down from that.

Note that the "height" is only 2 rule-lines.

The "width" is the entire piece of paper.

Let's say that each 9/32" rule-line represents 1 foot of height. That means the paper's width (8.5 inches) represents roughly 30 feet. When the water raises from the lower rule-line to the higher rule-line, it floods up the beach a distance equivalent to the entire width of the paper - or roughly 30 feet.

The actual beach slope is typically much shallower - so a 2 foot surge can mean up to 100 feet of water pouring in.

Looking at it another way: walk to the edge of the ocean, so your toes are just getting wet. Now imagine that the water was up to your waist. How far back would the water go?




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 4:51:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

I can hang back about 100 yards or so from the surf, and that should be more than enough space for just a 2-foot surge on a 20-foot high beach.



(Seems to me there's quite a few {missing} entire families that felt similarly over the last decade or so....hoping for "a glimpse").




tazzygirl -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 7:48:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

HAH!  The Blue Lagoon in Santa Cruz might be living up to its name quite soon...

(yeah, okay, it's evil, but you lot are in NO danger and we've already lost a Tazzie woman to this, so I get to make jokes at the expense of Cali which will suffer sweet-shit-all).


now im lost?!?!?!

someone really NEEDS to keep me updated... and find me fast, please?!




DesFIP -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 7:55:52 PM)

I think Hiltie meant a woman from Tazmania died in this but he believes it will be much weaker by the time it reaches California.

Hiltie, if I screwed up the translation, then rewrite it into American, would you?




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (9/30/2009 8:25:03 PM)

bwah haw, @ "American"...

yes, a woman from Tas is sadly gone.  as of last night death toll was reported between 69 and over 100.  very sad, very upset, am I.

In the late 80's to mid 90's, The Blue Lagoon was (is still?) a Queer  dance club in Santa Cruz CA which is basically one of the Lesbian Capitols of Earth (I lived there for more than a year or too), and that club caters primarily Butch and Boi saphhic crowd and trust me, back when I was there, if you wore ANY make-up at all or had hair more than 4 inches long on top, you were SHUNNED; VERY "bad mullet, wifebeater shirt and suspenders" self-imposed cultural cliche kinda place.  As opposed to The Phoeniz in Oxford in Sydney or other places more "Balmain Butch" in the Sydney areas.

But the Blue Lagoon, see, was rather LOW-LAND...  So if even a mere 5 foot tsunami hit Santa Cruz, then that club would literally be "A Lagoon".




Vendaval -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (10/1/2009 2:52:35 PM)

Some "beachfront property in Arizona".



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ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I am erring on the side of caution and not heading to the local beaches while this is going on.


Then I'm confused. Which beaches are you going to head to? [sm=meh.gif]






DesFIP -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (10/1/2009 6:44:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

bwah haw, @ "American"...

yes, a woman from Tas is sadly gone.  as of last night death toll was reported between 69 and over 100.  very sad, very upset, am I.



That's a huge death total. Very scary. Tragic for so many.




HatesParisHilton -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (10/1/2009 9:20:57 PM)

Yes, and it's killing me, since MANY here have family THERE.

yet we lost more in the Bali bombings.

the reason for my posts above was in fact to use ruthless humour to illustrate a point about tsunamie which we here in the South Pacific have been at risk for since before Euros came here over 200 years ago  (that last bit means I include the Dutch who got here before the Floggaristic Pommies), thus we get places like Van Diemen's Land).

For ANYONE outside of this area, particularly in CA or Portland or even Baja California  to even BEGIN to ponder "going to a beach" one way or another is a bad joke, even if unintentional.

So that means I can joke as I like, since no one is even considering what happens if ANY part of the New Zealand or Figi ocean floor has an earthquake magnitude even 6.8, and what THAT will do to everything in a radiating area from the point of THAT quake.

which is coming, mind you.  I predicted this one, the last one, and others.  y best friend in all the world studied to be a professional seismologist and he and I have travelled around here (Australia) and done some scary "part time reading".

This stuff, THIS week?  it's just the DRESS REHEARSAL for Opening Night.

Opening Night with Mr. Boothe waiting with his goddamn gun for Lincoln, man.

and many people on this side of the Pacific tried to...  oh, never mind, spilt milk, just like levvies in New Orleans and Hurricane Katrina.

Get ready for bad news ten tinmes worse than this in less than 800 days.

with no-one giving a real shit about it.
That's why I gotta laugh so I don't go mad from it.




DemonKia -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (10/1/2009 9:35:51 PM)

Okay, I'll bite: what's with the 800 days? I'm into prognostication, what's the timeline about?

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ORIGINAL: HatesParisHilton

Get ready for bad news ten tinmes worse than this in less than 800 days.




Ialdabaoth -> RE: Tsunami, Anyone? (10/1/2009 9:38:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DemonKia
Okay, I'll bite: what's with the 800 days? I'm into prognostication, what's the timeline about?


I think this is less prognostication than statistics. This tsunami might be a precursor to a larger event, and if so it'll typically show up between 1 and 3 years after the first tremors.




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