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Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 11:45:56 AM   
Tinkerer


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Status: offline 		For those of you who are christian dominants, what do you do to follow christ in your role? What kinds of play do you abstain from because of your belief, and what aspects of the D/s relation do you pay especially close attention to? Is there anything you have your submissive do that you wouldn't if you didn't have faith?

Myself being a follower I wondered how others thought. I'm not trying to start a flame war, so please keep things civil.


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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 12:13:13 PM   
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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 12:18:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd have to disagree. The man led people, and lots of them. He did what he was going to do, and wasn't influenced by those who wanted him to do otherwise, even when faced with death. I doubt a submissive man would have been so keen to teach and lead.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 12:23:26 PM   
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I'd have to disagree. The man led people, and lots of them. He did what he was going to do, and wasn't influenced by those who wanted him to do otherwise, even when faced with death. I doubt a submissive man would have been so keen to teach and lead.


If his dominant told him to, he would.
Jesus was teaching and spreading the word of god - his father and saviour.  And Master.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 12:57:49 PM   
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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 1:03:53 PM   
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Jesus was certainly a submissive to hi father God, and a great leader. submissive generally are.


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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 1:04:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		The bible is full of text of submission and Dominance, Jesus Was dominate to humanity but submission to his father.

If a sub see's the love of Jesus in her partner then she could also feel that his Dominance in her faith as well.

Just a thought.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 1:10:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tinkerer

For those of you who are christian dominants, what do you do to follow christ in your role? What kinds of play do you abstain from because of your belief, and what aspects of the D/s relation do you pay especially close attention to? Is there anything you have your submissive do that you wouldn't if you didn't have faith?

Myself being a follower I wondered how others thought. I'm not trying to start a flame war, so please keep things civil.


Edited for speling ;)
I once called myself a Christian but I no longer do and to be honest I don't see why a Christian should look at bdsm in a different way than a heathen or what we have more. I discussed this with several practitioners. When asked why they ask they claim it is obvious Christians disapprove of poly and bdsm in general. Yet when consulting the Scripture all one will find are contradictions including some condoning real slavery and bdsm beyond ones wildest imaginations. Years ago a large erotic mail-order business in the Netherlands made public most of their customers are Christian. There are poly Christians in the past and in the present and corporal punishment was never far away. In Germany a group of people growing up in Christian children's homes recently broke the silence about abuse and during the ungoing investigations there were even found human remains. I am sure Christians do not follow Christ more or less in their role as a dominant.
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Christ was about as submissive as one can get.

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One can also call Christ as Dominant as one can get. Christ is God.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 1:50:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dmarc

The bible is full of text of submission and Dominance, Jesus Was dominate to humanity but submission to his father.

If a sub see's the love of Jesus in her partner then she could also feel that his Dominance in her faith as well.

Just a thought.


God was dominant to humanity, not Jesus.  Jesus taught that if you worked for him, he would disown you.  However if you spoke and taught as he did about god, then he would acknowledge you as a wise person.(Matthew).

He taught not to worry and that god would take care of you.  Not himself.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 1:52:57 PM   
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One can also call Christ as Dominant as one can get. Christ is God.


Incorrect.
God is the dominant.
Jesus is the submissive.





.....and the holy spirit is a switch.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 1:54:00 PM   
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I don't think guiding is always  Dominant and following is always submissive.
I am not my boss his sub.

these words have different meanings then the ones they have in bdsm.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:03:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dmarc

The bible is full of text of submission and Dominance, Jesus Was dominate to humanity but submission to his father.


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
God is the dominant.
Jesus is the submissive.

.....and the holy spirit is a switch.

the.dark.


Wow, Jesus might even be a switch.  Wow.  Who woulda thought? 

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:07:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar
One can also call Christ as Dominant as one can get. Christ is God.


Incorrect.
God is the dominant.
Jesus is the submissive.





.....and the holy spirit is a switch.

the.dark.
Matthew 1:23—“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”

John 20:27-28—“Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.”

Isaiah 9:6—“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

There.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:10:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957

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ORIGINAL: dmarc

The bible is full of text of submission and Dominance, Jesus Was dominate to humanity but submission to his father.


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark
God is the dominant.
Jesus is the submissive.

.....and the holy spirit is a switch.

the.dark.


Wow, Jesus might even be a switch.  Wow.  Who woulda thought? 


Does that mean he is 'only a player'??????

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:25:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		To me, Christ's message was one of love and radical inclusivity.  That is what I try to embody in life.  There is no Biblical evidence to suggest that consenting adults may not do as they please, sexually speaking, so long as it harms none, and does not detract from ones closeness with God.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:27:55 PM   
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There is no Biblical evidence to suggest that consenting adults may not do as they please, sexually speaking, so long as it harms none, and does not detract from ones closeness with God.


I thought sodomy was forbidden though?

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:29:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TurboJugend

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ORIGINAL: MissCake

There is no Biblical evidence to suggest that consenting adults may not do as they please, sexually speaking, so long as it harms none, and does not detract from ones closeness with God.


I thought sodomy was forbidden though?
  

But then the question is, what was the Bible trying to say Sodomy was?

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 2:47:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I reread and understand your question..I think

you mean...was sodomy purely anal sex?..or just sinfull life in general?

Sodom and gomorra were cities of sin in the bible. But as there was sex between males....later it became sodomy.
So it is a mixture of both.

But sleeping/sex with the same sex was forbidden. Even when consensual.



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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 3:36:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Uh Religion does not enter the picture period.   I really don't get how being a christian has anything to do with me smacking my bitch around and telling her to shut up and take the pain.  Cept of course when she is crying out "oh God hurt me harder"

Even then it's a figure of speech.  FYI Christians used to feed ppl to the lions for SPORT, now they just rape the underage!  So do me a favor and keep your religion out of my sex life.

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RE: Christian Dominants - 10/1/2009 4:09:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissCake

To me, Christ's message was one of love and radical inclusivity.  That is what I try to embody in life.  There is no Biblical evidence to suggest that consenting adults may not do as they please, sexually speaking, so long as it harms none, and does not detract from ones closeness with God.


I would respectfully suggest you look again

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