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IronBear -> RE: Hard Limits (10/3/2009 11:42:37 PM)

That Kana is plain evil.. I like it. 



estah -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 12:17:29 AM)

*Shuddering as she hides.*

I am happy to try things once, but that is just...*shudders*...evil.





spookyfe -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 2:39:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Hell yeah I have limits.
everyone does.
Next time you run into a "no limits slave" start talking to them about your (hopefully imaginary) amputation fetish.
See how long the no limits stance lasts



My master says things like that when chatting to girls its really funny to see their reactions



TurboJugend -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 3:50:34 AM)

amputation fetish is not a hard limit.. it would a mental disorder
People should decide for themselves, inside their relation...what no limit is.
Then it can be true. I guess mostly it means no limits in sex.

Funny everytime this come up...people say...I have limits..everyone does
Perhaps everyone will answer here oneday too... and we will know [:D]



IronBear -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 4:25:53 AM)

Perhaps those who post "No Limits" really do not fully understand what it is they say. It could be that some are lacking in worldly experience and falsely believe that Dominants by their own "virtue" are honest and sane people with similar standards to the "no limits" sub/slave. Of course some too could be scammers who rely on their "no limit" statement to lure a Dom so they can, like the sirens of myth who lured sailors to their deaths, so that their charms can work their glamour and allurement to control the Dom..Topping from the bottom I believe it would be called. Of course there are always going to be hopeful and desperate Dominants just as there will be Dominants who are just hopeful and desperate. You pays your money and takes your chances. Caveat emptor Personally i think those sub/slaves who state "no limits" need to be sat down and spoken to for their own edumication. 



Justme696 -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 4:29:55 AM)

No limits also depends on your scope of thinking.
And those are different for every one.

In their mind..it can be no limit..for others it would be.

( god damn it...already the profile switch....grr...sorry for that)




Aylee -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 5:33:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Acer49

Do Dominants have hard limits and if so, have they ever come up?


Sure!  Eyeballs.  Eyeballs squick me seventeen ways from Sunday.  Really they do.  I would get professional help, except I would not know what to ask for.  "Doc, eyeballs onna stick gross me out, help me."  "Yeah, well they should." 

Can I keep my composure when it is food?  Yes I can. I am not happy about my food having eyes, but I can deal. 

Anything you watched in a Saw movie. . . yeah, I am probably not going to do.  Note: I only saw a portion of one movie and it involved an eyeball. 

But ya know. . . when these questions are asked, I like to point out that I have this whole, "Not going to jail" limit. 

I am a sadist.  I know this.  I also know that there are ways to fulfill that need and ways that are stupid.  While it might be nice to light someone on fire to watch them burn. . . I really do not want to have to deal with the twenty or so years of enforced NOT hurting people that I would should I choose this

Everything is a trade-off. 

Yes.  There are limits.  Many are self imposed for one reason or another.  But they exist.



daintydimples -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 5:49:10 AM)

Of course dominants have limits.

I think it's a good idea for a submissive to find out what those limits are early on. Since I also believe that most dominants like to push a sub's limits. Over a period of time, the sub's limits will become the dominant's limits. So it's a very good idea to determin what those are before you get into a relationship.

As an aside, I've always considered the phrase "no limits" to mean, "no limits, save for those of the dominant."







porcelaine -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 6:39:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: daintydimples

As an aside, I've always considered the phrase "no limits" to mean, "no limits, save for those of the dominant."


this was the most sensible thing i've read thus far. kudos.

i'm just tickled about how much energy people devote to trying to identify and label other people. the person can call themselves a flying purple people eater. whatever they are only becomes of issue to me if i'm dominating or submitting to them. otherwise they're just another person i encounter with a different point of view.

if i want to call myself a no limit slave and have a definition i'm comfortable with that represents me, there is nothing anyone can say nor should an attempt be made to correct my perceived oversight. that doesn't imply ignorance, lack of experience, or any other supposed non objective diagnosis one might attempt to affix.

but of course they're wrong and misguided and don't understand the dangers of using such verbiage. blah blah blah. newsflash. they have eyes and can read just like the next person. they made a conscious choice to identify themselves in that manner. whether i like it or not isn't really important. because it is their choice. that's a hard one to grasp i'm sure.

because it really isn't about you at all. but the one they'll choose or be chosen by. that's the only "you" that matters. it is a proverbial truth that applies to both sides of the paddle.

porcelaine



Wantstocontrolu -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 12:08:44 PM)

I have hardlimits, the most important of those is my comfort level in a specific activity.
Also I will never "play" with someone if I am not in complete control of myself.

included in that is that whatever the activity is it does not include children.



NormalOutside -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 12:56:51 PM)

Being dominant doesn't mean you have to like and accept everything. In fact, quite the contrary. So yes, dominant people have hard limits, ie, things they don't want to do.



RavenMuse -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 1:27:33 PM)

I most certainly do... they are the limits this household runs to.

Kids, animals, scat.... The first two I won't have ANYTHING to do with someone who does such... the latter, fine, just NOT around Me!

AB play is out, given I have worked with quadriplegics and the whole nappy thing would feel like work, not fun!

I'm straight so am not about to involve Me in anything sexually oriented with another male.

I am poly... so monogamy is a hard limit.... I can accommodate a girl who maybe not wish to be permitted to be sexual with others but she needs to be able to handle that I will and do have other important relationships that may or may not include sex.

I'm needle phobic so *I* won't do needles... however My girl isn't phobic and I am friends with the two most competent needle players in London (ArianDom and Morphia) so will allow her to do needles with Them.

Besides that I have a duty of care, which means another limit is regardless of how much I may choose to hurt her... I do not HARM My property!

They come up at the beginning of the relationship, whilst she is learning who I am and what she would be living under if there was compatibility

quote:

ORIGINAL: daintydimples

As an aside, I've always considered the phrase "no limits" to mean, "no limits, save for those of the dominant."


Thats what no limits means in THIS household at least... she has none, she lives within Mine! she trusts in Mine to keep her safe



MzMia -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 6:46:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NormalOutside

Being dominant doesn't mean you have to like and accept everything. In fact, quite the contrary. So yes, dominant people have hard limits, ie, things they don't want to do.


I tend to have MANY more hard limits than the submissive's that I encounter.
ain't doing that, you can cross that one off also, and hell to the no!
[;)]



DavanKael -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 7:12:19 PM)

As Jeff  pointed out in another thread: clowns are a definite hard limit for me.  ICK! 
Sure, regardless of the side of the kneel upon which I am functioning, I have hard limits.  As noted in the thread during which the afore-mentioned Jeff taumatized me with the reminder about clowns, they're few but they exist.   
  Davan



IrishMist -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 8:05:30 PM)

quote:

start talking to them about your (hopefully imaginary) amputation fetish.

*drools*

Stop that...you are getting me excited [8D]



DesFIP -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 8:34:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DavanKael

As Jeff  pointed out in another thread: clowns are a definite hard limit for me.  ICK! 
Sure, regardless of the side of the kneel upon which I am functioning, I have hard limits.  As noted in the thread during which the afore-mentioned Jeff taumatized me with the reminder about clowns, they're few but they exist.   
Davan


I think we should team up and hit Jeff over the head with a rubber chicken.

Clowns, ick.



IronBear -> RE: Hard Limits (10/4/2009 10:01:22 PM)

You girls hit Jeff with a rubber chicken and I'll whollop him on the head with a chook from a pub raffle. Yuky clowns are, especially clown dolls/puppets... Farking dangerous beings they are. Bloody nightmare material is what they also are..

That damned song "Here Comes the Clowns" keeps repeating in my head ... Thanks Jeff. I keep visualising the line of clowns we have seen parade through the hallowed halls of CM



OrionTheWolf -> RE: Hard Limits (10/5/2009 4:38:21 AM)

Next time you want to mention a no limits slave, maybe you should do some reading about what it actually means.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Hell yeah I have limits.
everyone does.
Next time you run into a "no limits slave" start talking to them about your (hopefully imaginary) amputation fetish.
See how long the no limits stance lasts




IrishMist -> RE: Hard Limits (10/5/2009 5:01:08 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Next time you want to mention a no limits slave, maybe you should do some reading about what it actually means.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Hell yeah I have limits.
everyone does.
Next time you run into a "no limits slave" start talking to them about your (hopefully imaginary) amputation fetish.
See how long the no limits stance lasts



*sigh*
One thing I have learned Master Orion is to not argue with those who are 'right'.

*grins*
Now a days, I just let them express their 'right' opinion and keep mine where it belongs. In my own relationships.

*nods*

It works pretty well that way.

Have a wonderful day




thishereboi -> RE: Hard Limits (10/5/2009 5:14:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Next time you want to mention a no limits slave, maybe you should do some reading about what it actually means.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Hell yeah I have limits.
everyone does.
Next time you run into a "no limits slave" start talking to them about your (hopefully imaginary) amputation fetish.
See how long the no limits stance lasts




Yes it could be a translation problem. I had a guy write me and tell me he was a "no limits" slave. I asked him what that meant and he said that meant he would do ANYTHING I asked him to do. I told him I had always wanted to see ducks thrown into a tree shredder and he said he would NOT do that. WTF, I thought anything meant anything. Apparently he meant anything within reason. Go figure.



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