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Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 10:57:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: CaringandReal

Your post brings back a lot of old memories. I've been there. I think you are bored. Tell him. It may help. Of course he's under no obligation to provide a slave with challenges just to keep her entertained, but he may want to. It can be enjoyable in a sadistic sort of way. :)

I almost forgot the most important part! (I'm a little distracted this morning.) Try, if you can, to be grateful for boredom. The alternative, except in a few rare instances (such as the courtship phase of a relationship), is usually far worse.


He knows I am bored. He also thinks I have plenty to occupy me. He says that I push myself too hard and insists that I take care of his property. IE, rest, sleep, me time, friends...

I have asked him for things he would like to see me work on or areas he would like to see improvement in. He is content.

I cannot say that I am not content, I just fear complacency.

We have reached a place in our life together that just flows. I am content with that, but I never want to allow myself to feel complacent and serve with anything less than the reason I serve at the fore front of my mind.




Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 10:58:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ncbabe

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ORIGINAL: Surrenderwithin

Perhaps, by not focusing on the fact that folding socks is a service and act of submission for my Master I am cheating myself out of the positive feeling I get through service and surrender. I am complying when I should be obeying and serving. Folding socks is rather meaningless and a mindless task unless I meditate upon the reason and the circumstances that I find myself in the middle of the livingroom floor folding socks.



Your job is to fold socks, and that is what you are doing.  What you need to do is reframe the feeling you have while doing this, because it is the fact that you are over thinking it that is cheating you out of the positive feeling you should be getting.  Your concern about whether you are complying or obeying shows to me that you are folding his socks for the right reasons.  One of my greatest challenges has been learning to accept being mindless at times and enjoy the peacefulness of serving without thinking about it.  I think that folding his socks while on auto pilot is a lovely example of you just doing your job and that you should be simply pleased with that.

Thank you. That is a sweet thing to say and point out. I appreciate that. I tend to hyperfocus on things... and mindfulness is the topic of the month for me!
Maggi




Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 11:01:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AnnaOfAramis

I don't think you should be worried about "compliance." Here's another way to look at it. This is an internal enslavement perspective. If you are "choosing to obey" then you are determining your own slavery, mastering yourself. When you don't choose, but find yourself complying because it is impossible for you not to, then He is mastering you.

That is certainly a perspective I had not considered. Thank you for some new insight. I will integrate that into my way of thinking.
Maggi




Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 11:05:10 AM)




That makes sense.

But honesty, it doesn't have to be either or, from my experience. not sure if you are insinuating that or not, but the best servitude I have known to come from myself is servitude that is really both entwined together. Before you are in a position to "not choose" and find yourself complying like an automaton, you first have to have the ability to put yourself in that place to begin with, and be receptive to authority from this person without letting ye old ego get in the way.

It's an ongoing process of both motives, really, from what I have known...
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I believe you have hit the nail on the head. That is the same conclusion I arrived at once I thought about her statement. Most things in life do have some form of duality...
Maggi




Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 11:12:51 AM)

"There are ways of incorporating play into the most mundane acts, hand scrubbing a floor is inefficient, but I love to watch her ass sway back and forth while... "

The funny thing is this isnt about play at all. The fact is, we rarely play. Our focus is more on the M/s than the S/m. That is not to say that we do not play on occassion. However, when I scrub his floors I do usually hand scrub them. I hand scrub them at least once a week, just mopping as needed on a daily basis. However, I hand scrub them because I believe it makes them cleaner. Besides, I enjoy that feeling of being on my hands and knees cleaning his home. It sparks that mushy feeling inside of me and brings about a contentment.

You are right... I have been around the block a few times. :O)




porcelaine -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 1:41:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Surrenderwithin


I have also exploited my type A personality. I have so many irons in the fire that I cannot even count them. So, I can certainly relate to the whole when there is work to be done thing.


do you feel your level of activity is appropriate? has busyness crept in or are you fully devoting yourself to each task undertaken? you mentioned being unable to count the irons, do you perceive this as good, or was this said jokingly and the routine is one that you manage effortlessly?

in my own practices i maintain a schedule that is augmented each quarter. there are monthly, quarterly, and yearly themes that are addressed which allow me to cover various subjects in a manner that is comprehensive, but allows time for other things. flexibility and the possibility of shifting gears when necessary is important.

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I was struggling with the fact that I had become so selfless in so many aspects of my life and was dealing with a little resentment about it because I didnt believe it was a healthy thing for a person. I spent all of 2007 trying to find something to be selfish with and ended that year not achieving my resolution. In December of 2007 I sat down to write in my journal and reevaluate the year. The realization that I came to is that one of deep seeded needs as a slave is to FEEL selfless.


there is something to be said about the one that gives so much to others, they have nothing left over for themselves. this person would benefit from being a little more selfish. a good trait can become bad for us when it is done excessively. as you can see from the example, a bad trait in moderation in this case would be beneficial. achieving selflessness is never at the expense of balance. often we go from one extreme to the other before we find our way to center.

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I have to admit that feeling like a martyr for HIM moves me deeply. I know it is odd and insane, but it is what works for me and is one of the things that drives me in my slavery.


no i don't find this strange at all. i have never agreed with the concept that everyone derives their slavery from the same place. i'm well aware i don't and i'm fine with this. what matters most is that you're in touch with these things and you're seeking ways to make them work in your favor.

porcelaine




DesFIP -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 2:57:42 PM)

There's an old line "Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water".

You would be folding socks and doing laundry anyway, no matter how you slice it. If you get your secret thrill of watching reality tv while folding socks, go for it. If you find you can do this with mindfulness and get something out of it from doing it that way, go for it.

Honestly, I think you're overthinking it. However, there is an easy solution here, ask him what he wants. Because if he says that he's glad you get a boring chore done while enjoying a tv show he hates, then keep doing it. If he wants you focused on him no matter what, then try to do it that way.

But keep in mind that these relationships should not be done just to satisfy one person. There are two people in it, and both of them must be satisfied. Even down to being allowed to watch junk tv when you need your fix. Because if you aren't ever allowed to, you will focus on it, and resent the lack. You can focus on him better when you don't have unmet needs and desires pulling your focus away.




Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 4:29:20 PM)



do you feel your level of activity is appropriate? has busyness crept in or are you fully devoting yourself to each task undertaken? you mentioned being unable to count the irons, do you perceive this as good, or was this said jokingly and the routine is one that you manage effortlessly?
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Yes, I believe my level of activity is appropriate. I do fully devote myself. I do percieve it as good for me and the routine is effortless for me.

The prime directive from my Master is to be a good care taker of his property. ( He says it and I can quote it much wordier than that, however I will summarize it that way for the readers sake). That was probably one of the most difficult things for me to learn. That of course entails adequate rest, food, exercise etc. I suppose it is a good thing that I have an ethical Master with that prime directive because otherwise I would most certainly not tend to the self.





Surrenderwithin -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 4:32:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

There's an old line "Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water".

You would be folding socks and doing laundry anyway, no matter how you slice it. If you get your secret thrill of watching reality tv while folding socks, go for it. If you find you can do this with mindfulness and get something out of it from doing it that way, go for it.

Honestly, I think you're overthinking it. However, there is an easy solution here, ask him what he wants. Because if he says that he's glad you get a boring chore done while enjoying a tv show he hates, then keep doing it. If he wants you focused on him no matter what, then try to do it that way.

But keep in mind that these relationships should not be done just to satisfy one person. There are two people in it, and both of them must be satisfied. Even down to being allowed to watch junk tv when you need your fix. Because if you aren't ever allowed to, you will focus on it, and resent the lack. You can focus on him better when you don't have unmet needs and desires pulling your focus away.

After this many years I do not need to ask him. I know he does not care one way or the other. Due to the prime directive ( see above post) he ensures that my needs are met. Afterall  a well cared for and happy slave usually serves better. I believe he ensures it out of self interest... but many roads lead to Rome. I am well cared for. He is well served.
Maggi




porcelaine -> RE: Semantics of my slavery (10/9/2009 5:21:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Surrenderwithin

The prime directive from my Master is to be a good care taker of his property. ( He says it and I can quote it much wordier than that, however I will summarize it that way for the readers sake). That was probably one of the most difficult things for me to learn. That of course entails adequate rest, food, exercise etc. I suppose it is a good thing that I have an ethical Master with that prime directive because otherwise I would most certainly not tend to the self.


yes this is very important! i'm pleased to hear you have someone at the helm that is handling the checks and balances. i have been remiss in this area on occasion and most recently made myself physically ill through lack of food. lesson learned and i've put measures in place to make certain that doesn't occur again. it was a horrible week!

taking care of His property encompasses so much. i continue to surrender aspects of myself each day and diligently seek more to hand over. it really makes my life much simpler when i accept these things are no longer mine to manage. i also find it creates and solidifies mindfulness for those areas as well and assures i am attending to things as expected. i wish you luck in your journey.

porcelaine




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