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Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/12/2009 2:56:13 AM   
roswitch


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Hi,

I love my gf to slap my cock really hard when it's erect, but I recently read that that could inflict serious and permanent injuries and that the cock should only be slapped with hard objects (such as the hand) only when it's soft.

Do you know of the risks involved?

Thank you
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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/12/2009 6:57:52 AM   
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The condition you are looking for is penile fracture. It's a medical emergency.



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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/12/2009 8:07:56 AM   
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I've heard some vague things about desensitization and problems with becoming erect, but nothing from an actual medical authority, so I don't worry too much.

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/12/2009 8:55:44 AM   
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I have smacked a cock or two in my time, with various things besides my hands, and so far, no damage has been inflicted. 

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/12/2009 9:59:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: roswitch

Hi,

I love my gf to slap my cock really hard when it's erect, but I recently read that that could inflict serious and permanent injuries and that the cock should only be slapped with hard objects (such as the hand) only when it's soft.

Do you know of the risks involved?

Thank you



With a hand, I think you've little to worry about. It sounds like you're concerned about damage to what's referred to as the spongy tissue. For more on the subject and the anatomy of the penis, I'd recommend Hardy Haberman's book "Family Jewels" (copyright 2001). He has a revised version out now called "More Family Jewels: Further Explorations in Male Genitorture" (copyright 2007) which I've not read, but I understand includes many more devious forms of CBT in it than the original.

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 4:45:43 AM   
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Thank you all for replying. It seems I have little to worry about indeed so I might as well enjoy the pain while I do some more reading on the subject.

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 6:32:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: roswitch

Hi,

I love my gf to slap my cock really hard when it's erect, but I recently read that that could inflict serious and permanent injuries and that the cock should only be slapped with hard objects (such as the hand) only when it's soft.

Do you know of the risks involved?

Thank you



This is a question that is best answered by a professional as they know of things the average layman may not have knowledge of

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 10:26:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Acer49
This is a question that is best answered by a professional as they know of things the average layman may not have knowledge of


I agree.

I have been tied up on a cross with my arms up quite a few times and have had no issues. However, with some people and in some circumstances tying someone with their arms up can lead to dizziness and fainting. I might report that there is no risk but the situation is completely different for someone else.

OP, I would go back to where you first heard about the risks, and dig deeper to find the source to see whether the circumstances apply to you, and how credible is the source. I think one point that is important is what it means to slap really hard.

Cheers,

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 12:13:26 PM   
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The issue here is not should it be slapped at all, but how much force can be safely used.  Penile fracture is generally caused by bending (literally snapping) the penis sharply or abruptly, tearing the membrane that surrounds the erectile spongy tissue.  Surface impact can theoretically cause this, but it's not the easiest or most common way it occurs.

Use some common sense.  Flogging it with a light suede teaser or flicking it with a couple of fingers is not going to cause injury.  Spanking it either literally or figuratively is probably not going to cause injury if you are reasonably careful.  Hitting it with a baseball bat swung at a speed comparable to Mark McGwire on an extra helping of steroids will definitely cause injury.

Basically what you're trying to avoid is bruises serious enough to leak blood into tissue that isn't well suited to handling it, and rupturing or tearing the assorted delicate structures.  Even microtears can eventually lead to the buildup of scar tissue which can cause erectile dysfunction.  Someone who is experienced enough at spanking and impact play that they can gauge and finely control the amount of force they are using should be able to play fairly safely using normal common sense around tissues that are a bit more delicate than the average gluteus maximus.


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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 12:40:00 PM   
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I must say, I have had mine slapped, flogged and whipped with small cock whip and all that happens is I get harder! Then again, I have always reacted well to pain in that area, lol.

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 1:28:28 PM   
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This is a question that is best answered by a professional as they know of things the average layman may not have knowledge of


Not really, unless the professionals we're talking about have *both* anatomical/medical knowledge and clearly understand how experienced BDSM players gauge their impact play.  The average doc who knows anatomy and medicine is going to be able to tell you, "Well, if you hit it hard enough, these specific things will happen," and most likely will tell you to avoid hitting it at all.  That's not a useful answer for kinksters.

We all understand that *some* impact play can be done in this area without causing your dick to turn black and fall off.  The question is one of type and degree.  And that's one a doctor is not going to be good at answering without knowing how we play.   A useful answer would be one that incorporated the technical details of how the tissues and structures in the penis works with the specifics of how they can safely be played with.  In this case, it's really an amount of force question, not an absolute one.  And common sense is a pretty good answer. 

Avoid bending it sharply, or impacting it with enough force to cause serious bruising or actual damage to the delicate tissues.  Avoid tearing or damaging the tunica albuginea membrane around the spongy corpora cavernosa erectile tissue.  Playing a little spanky-spanky isn't gonna do that if you're reasonably careful, but avoid causing any sharp bending or tearing.  In general you probably want to use broader, flatter instruments rather than narrow point of impact stuff, unless we're talking about light flogger tails, and you want to have very fine control to gauge your impacts.

I doubt you're gonna get a better answer from a doc, unless that doc is a kinkster.

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 4:59:36 PM   
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shiat.....slap it harder.....and watch it grow....no  pain...no gain     No Bobbit shiat going on..right?   K , you are safe

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/13/2009 9:06:46 PM   
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The condition you are looking for is penile fracture. It's a medical emergency.
I agree the Op should read all about this, than decide if he is with someone who is aware and can safely gauge impact play.
I've done this safely, but I tend to be on the conservative side, when it comes to impact play and breakable things, I may want to use again.       M

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/16/2009 2:45:57 AM   
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Thank you all for your answers. Trying to figure out how hard she hits (it does hurt a lot) was easy. I had her hit my forearm with similar strength and it's no more than a easy slap. Apparently all the proeminent blood vessels down there cause it to hurt much more than it probably should but they're also a reason for extra attention - the bigger they are, the easier they break i suppose.

She's just discovering her dominant side so i don't want to scare her off with saying it's too dangeours :) but I will most definitely advise on being a bit more moderate since I'm betting she'd also hate it if i couldn't perform anymore :)

Thanks again.

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RE: Cock slapping while erect - health concerns - 10/16/2009 9:37:38 AM   
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I suspect the force needed is quite a lot.

Way back in my wild college days, on a waterbed with no baffles, during straight up missionary-position intercourse I had a guy "come loose from moorings" on the backstroke, then the way the wave action of the bed was when he drove back in, he thrust into essentially the plywood base of the bed (we were in a temporary low spot) and he broke his penis. There was an audible noise and it was obviously painful. We took him to the ER and he had several follow up visits with a urologist and the last I heard everything was working as expected.

I think it's a common sense issue, really, how much force to use.  If a guy has the fantasy of really severe genitotorture, to the point where you might risk penile fracture, I'd expect that the dominant would not exceed reasonable safety limits but would instead combine a reasonable amount of force with an epic mindfuck. Because when your brain gets involved in the scene and your imagination is zinged by a good mindfuck, you don't need to break the toys to get the effect.

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