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lardass -> enuchs (3/5/2006 2:48:57 AM)

in days gone by most house slaves were enuchs,have any of you modern day mistresses ever felt like castrating your slave.



MHOO314 -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 5:36:31 AM)

and take away My greatest pleasure? Never!



MstrssPassion -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 5:49:09 AM)

I have practiced denial & chastity... but removal?

Never!



MsSonnetMarwood -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 5:59:18 AM)

quote:

in days gone by most house slaves were enuchs,have any of you modern day mistresses ever felt like castrating your slave.



Joked about castration? Sure.

Threatened castration as a mind phuck scene? Absolutely.

Ever intend to actually do it? Nope. And other than someone who is transgender and dealing with it that way, I'd question anyone's sanity who did, be they dominant or submissive.



MstrssPassion -> RE: eunuchs (3/5/2006 6:44:31 AM)

Note that I said never & also note the fact that I have a partner who is transsexual. It is not my choice that she will undergo SRS. It is completely her choice.

The SRS is not even removal... more like turning an "outtie" into an "innie" (or should that be spelled with a y?) The only thing actually removed is a small amount of erectile tissue.

I have had numerous men contact me after learning that I have a transsexual partner that believe that I am the one transforming her. I attempt to offer them information about the proper steps to undergo transition. I have had some contact me to tell me that they had been forced by previous partners & now are stuck in limbo between two genders. This thought is very disturbing for me. I can't imagine what this would be like for someone.

The transition is a journey that must be mapped out by the person who travels it. It should not be influenced by another.

I have also had many men contact me about this subject (removal of all genitalia). I have attempted to find out why they would wish to mutilate their bodies in such a way. The most common reply has been about their deep guilt, knowing that they have wronged previous partners with infidelity. Secondly it has been a result of reading pure fluff. Which makes me scratch my head... I dunno but if one is reading masturbation material for the purpose of jerking off, how could lopping off your willy while wanking it be arousing?

I have not been able to gain a true understanding or should I say, a logical understanding as to why an individual would desire to be a eunuch.

(edited to correct the spelling of the subject line)



Isara -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 6:50:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lardass

in days gone by most house slaves were eunuchs, have any of you modern day mistresses ever felt like castrating your slave.


Have I threatened it jokingly? Yup, I have. Have I ever thought about it seriously? No. I've never had any desire to do it to my boy. Such a think is a very serious mental commitment that I would only recommend to transgender friends or clients after a great deal of thought, consideration and counseling. An ex of mine is still undergoing the hormone replacement therapies that are needed, it's been a good five years since she originally first broached the subject. Her doctor is a wonderful woman, who's advised her to wait at least another two before she seriously considers surgery.

I'm an opera fan, castration was used to maintain angel-like voices for choir boys during the Middle Ages. In the baroque music era these singers were highly appreciated by the Opera composers as well. The "castrato" or opera singers that were used were brilliant, and I'm fond of their voices, but I'll leave the castration back then thanks ;) oh and as a side note? The last "castrato" was Alessandro Moreschi (1858-1922) who served in the Vatican church.

I'll take my house slave, penis, balls and all.

Regards

Isara



Mistressx1334 -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 7:17:06 AM)

I'll be firm on this...NO. Never. I am willing and eager to give a lot of pain to my slave, but this makes me think "poor slave."



BeeQueen -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 7:55:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lardass

in days gone by most house slaves were enuchs,have any of you modern day mistresses ever felt like castrating your slave.



i dont think that that statement is right - there is no historical paper that states that most, or even part of the slaves where eunuchs

even in old times only a high valored class of slaves where castrates or eunuchs, *made* for very special tasks like guarding a harem, castrat singing, sexual pleasure (it was not looked as homosexual relation if the slave was a castrat), and nontheless it was used to cut down the agressivity. they where a special class of slaves, and highly valored (and expensive)

the very special case of mutilation commonly knowed as eunuch ment to remove the male gonads and the penis (mostly done before puperty-full castrat). this practice was used also for the castrat singers (till the 18th century)

a high percentage of male died in the process, the earlier the operation was done the higher where the chance for survival.
the not so dangerous variation is to remove the gonads ( half castrat)
the very modern form of it is the vasectomy - only removes the ability to procreate (used for birthcontrol)

i would never want to mutilate a guy (full or half castrat), while i totally would support vasectomy for a longterm relationship (when no kids r planed).

if a guy feels like gettin rid of his *manhood* due to his own reasons, i suggest a psychological talk before taking any steps - apart of the fact that no doctor will do a full castration without mediac reason (like cancer)




thetammyjo -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 9:08:58 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lardass

in days gone by most house slaves were enuchs,have any of you modern day mistresses ever felt like castrating your slave.


They were?



Cloudz -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 11:18:37 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lardass

in days gone by most house slaves were enuchs,have any of you modern day mistresses ever felt like castrating your slave.


Castrate? Holy Hell! Why?



KatyLied -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 11:27:58 AM)

Yes, eunuchs were used as house slaves, bath slaves, bedroom slaves, often the male overseer of harems. I don't know why anyone would want to go the castration route today. Although there is chemical castration.



ShivaTS -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 11:48:49 AM)

For me it was done awhile back. Oriectomy that is. Yes I am transgender. Unluckily for me, my body still produces enough testosterone to allow normal male sexual reactions, just no grand mess after gradification. This may not be the case for others wanting to be castrated. The sudden change in hormones can cause depression, inability to function as a man, and in some cases suiside. THIS ISNT A GAME! Anyone wanting to be a man and be castrated should seek out a mental health practitioner. Any woman wanting thier man to do this should do the same.



fergus -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 12:35:44 PM)

Just as a sie note,

Castrati Tenors of days gone by had their testicles removed before puberty, but not their penis.

fergus



fastlane -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 12:44:04 PM)

I'm not a big Star Wars fan, but the enuchs have always scared me!



Isara -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 6:26:33 PM)

quote:

Just as a sie note,

Castrati Tenors of days gone by had their testicles removed before puberty, but not their penis.

fergus


Ahh, thanks [;)] I thought I'd made it clear, but apparently writing at two in the morning isn't my wisest action to date *laughs*



Lordandmaster -> RE: enuchs (3/5/2006 7:22:36 PM)

I was talking to the male half of a submissive couple about the possibility of owning the two of them, and at one point he mentioned that he wants to castrate himself. I was like, OK, how do you intend to castrate yourself?

That was the end of the conversation. I guess I missed out on an adoring devoted sub couple.

Lam



MarinaBlack -> RE: enuchs (3/6/2006 2:28:24 AM)

Not into actual castration.
I do enjoy chastity devices and I particularly enjoy suturing a sub's foreskin closed.
That is divine.



thetammyjo -> RE: enuchs (3/6/2006 6:58:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Yes, eunuchs were used as house slaves, bath slaves, bedroom slaves, often the male overseer of harems. I don't know why anyone would want to go the castration route today. Although there is chemical castration.


This does not equal the OP's claim that most house slave were eunuchs. Considering one of my fields of study is historical slavery I really find this idea unsupported in Western, Near Eastern, African, and Oriental worlds as well as in the New World. I think it was more common for harem keepers but that is not most household slaves and that is a limited subclass of slaves in general.



LoneGoddess -> RE: enuchs (3/6/2006 6:04:02 PM)

I've been asked to be the "cutter" many times by subs and slaves and others. And only once did I agree. Maybe I thought I'd like to make the title of "castrating bitch" official.

Shame my "victim" died though, about 15 months later, I still have a couple filet mignons of him in the freezer anyone care to join me?

In all honesty, never would I consider removing my most cherished toys...

~Lady Laura



LadySonelle -> RE: enuchs (3/6/2006 7:36:25 PM)

I have had one eunuch as a play partner and one as a friend and one as a distance slave. I **adore** eunuchs! They are the most fantastic slaves *ever* and give the least amount of trouble. The first eunuch had been castrated (scrotim and testicles only) long before we met and was a very sweet person. The second was castrated due to testicular cancer (testicles removed, prosthetics placed in empty scrotum) and was not into the lifestyle. I knew him for decades before the surgery and was able to compare the personality before and after. The third was castrated (penis *and* testicles!) while under My tuteelege (but NOT by Me or at My command! It was another Mistress) and again I was able to compare personality before and after. I do, currently have contact with a slave who is a chemical eunuch (castrated by pharmaceuticals) and is looking for surgery.

If I ruled the world, I would have voluntary castration clinics available in *all* major cities and would be served 24/7 by eunuchs! I have seen, firsthand the fabled "eunuch calm" and it is so soothing and wonderful that I really feel it is a tragedy that the operation is illegal except under compelling medical necessity. It should be available to anyone who passes psychiatric exams and a waiting period. These would be *mandatory*! Only a person who exhibits body dysmorphia and a longstanding history of such, would be considered for the procedure and they would have a full psychiatric support team before, during and after. I should think that before the actual, irreversible procedure, they would be required to live for a year as a chemical castrate to see if they can handle the changed psychic affect, the side effects etc. Then, with a certification and competence hearing, full steam ahead!

More Eunuchs!!

Lady Sonelle



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