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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/22/2009 6:20:02 PM   
Venatrix


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ORIGINAL: Wolf2Bear

Well dayum...the last time I looked, Great Slave was in the NWT oh yea; that's Great Slave Lake.  FYI...all the great slaves are living in Canada, though Zellers has a 2 for 1 sale from 9 pm to midnight so act now before they are all sold out.



Clearly, I've been spending too much time on eBay.  "NWT" to me means "New Without Tags". 

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 6:49:24 AM   
FrancisTobias


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Status: offline 		If one has no expectations one cannot be disappointed. I don't look for a great anything, if I come across someone one I like, someone I can communicate with who has no ax to grind, who is genuinely interested in learning, not from me but from life, from within, well then that's a wonderful person to get to know as well as I have the courage to relate to. 

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 7:07:45 AM   
xBullx


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Status: offline 		This will be blunt for the long and short of this subject.

Well first of all "slaves" aren't simply found. It requires a "master" (gender neutral in this instance) to inspire a "slave". If you are incapable of inspiring the submission of another than you will not find yourself mastering them. In a society where forced servitude is illegal you must be able to intentionally master the will of another person. Prior to this condition you are neither an established submissive or dominant, you merely have suggestive tendancies.

Judging by your photo you have yourself interjected into the wrong role to begin with, you look and seemingly act like a "slave" yourself. I suspect a slave would have trouble atracting other slaves to be dominated.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 7:59:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		With all due respect, Bull,

I agree completely with your post, until you say that she "looks and apparently acts" like a slave. How, exactly, does one look like a slave, without having slave actually written on them? I see that she's on the floor. I see that her knees are the only part of her touching the ground. But if you were to be on your knees on the floor, as I'm sure you have been (kitchen floors don't clean themselves, even when a Dominant is single), I doubt anyone would say that you were looking or acting like a slave. Kneeling is a very different thing from being on one's knees, and I don't see any indication that she is kneeling. So what is it that makes you say she's a slave, and how can one judge "slaviness" from a photo?

< Message edited by Miyani -- 10/23/2009 8:01:27 AM >

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 8:12:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love the phrase, "with all due respect". Conveniently enough, it leaves unanswered the question of exactly how much respect is due *chuckles*. In this case though, referring to Bull's own photo should answer your question for you.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 8:17:05 AM   
Miyani


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Status: offline 		Actually, I feel Bull is due a lot of respect. I've read a bunch of what he's written, and while we don't always agree, I admire his strength of character, and his, erm, resoluteness. ;) Good point, though, and an ambiguousness I have used to my advantage more than once.

And I would say that in that photo, Bull doesn't look like a slave, you're right. But he doesn't look like a Master, either. He looks like a man, standing with his arms crossed. I look like a woman leaning against a pole with my arms up. Your Carol looks like a woman with a leash on. None of those things inherently says "slave" or "Master," they just show people doing things. It's the actual people that assign the meaning.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 8:32:22 AM   
xBullx


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Status: offline 		Hello Miyani,

Well, first I noted that her initial photo didn't particularly impressing me as a photo that would be preferred by someone intending portray a sense of dominance. So prior to submitting my post I thought I'd have a look see at her profile on the other side and much to my expectation she is titled as a switch. Concurrently the further examination of her other photos has her even being held in restrainment devises, not particularly a halmark indication of one being a dominant.

So I based my opinion on more than a single photo and it had absolutely nothing to do with whether someone kneels while cleaning a floor. If she is not certain or at least consistant on her own self promotions/perceptions I suspect this might add to her inability to allocate that great slave.

If judging an initial photo would be the only requirement to establishing orientation I would have noted your very femine and attractive photo as being that of a woman displaying herself from some reason, but that's about it. In this day and age I wouldn't be able to judge much more than that.

Now I might have considered ripping that sleek and revealing dress from your body and having my way with you, but that's just me, and the animal I am.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 8:45:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mistr3ssBrandy

Hi guys. latley ive just been feeling like i cant find a great slave.. maybe im asking for a lot but being the goddess that i am i should be able to find a good one but i only have one good slave!!!eghhh having a bad day BRANDY!!!


IMOHO, Goddesses should use spell check and capitalize the pronoun I.

(I have not read the other responses.)

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 8:46:25 AM   
Miyani


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Status: offline 		Hello, Bull.

I imagine I took your use of  "photo," singular, a bit too literally. I could say something about how being in restraining devices doesn't make you less Dominant, plenty learned from the other side of the whip, some Dominants like sensation, yadda yadda yadda, but I have a feeling we'd be debating in circles while saying many of the same things. So, I'll elect not to be contrary this one time, despite the effort it takes. I do understand what you're saying about the pictures not inspiring submissive feelings in others, and I agree.

As for the comments on my picture, I am very flattered, thank you!

Be well,
Miya

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 9:19:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mistr3ssBrandy

Hi guys. latley ive just been feeling like i cant find a great slave.. maybe im asking for a lot but being the goddess that i am i should be able to find a good one but i only have one good slave!!!eghhh having a bad day BRANDY!!!


I am sorry you are having a bad day and my suggestion would be to be thankful for what you have as opposed to being disappointed and frustrated in what you don’t have. The following remarks are not meant to be a personal attack, but simply how a "Great Slave " may view you

While you are a reasonable attractive individual, you simply announcing that you are a Goddess does not make it so. You would need to reveal more about yourself for one to come to that conclusion.

The fact that you are unable to properly write a intro without spelling and grammatical errors does not impress a great slave
Your failure to speak more about yourself would leave a great slave viewing you as simply one dimensional and unable to meet the requirements needed to be considered a full rounded dominant.
The fact that you list yourself as an "expert" in many areas would leave a very bad taste in a great slave's mouth. I am afraid many great slaves find someone who calls themselves an "expert" as an individual who is suffering from illusions of grandeur and added to the fact that you are a mere 22 year old, it would enforce the fact of that illusion.

Great slaves would find your intense interest in humiliation rather amusing as a great slave can not be humiliated because they have strong inner strength of character and self worth. While they of course would submit to it, they would find the activity rather futile as is serves not credible purpose.
The fact that you already have a slave would disqualify you as a possible candidate because great slaves have a strong belief that they can satisfy all of the dominant's needs and do not wish to play second fiddle to another.


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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 2:53:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mistr3ssBrandy

Hi guys. latley ive just been feeling like i cant find a great slave.. maybe im asking for a lot but being the goddess that i am i should be able to find a good one but i only have one good slave!!!eghhh having a bad day BRANDY!!!


Well if every Domme could find a great slave, then none of them would actually be great. BDSM is no different than the vanilla world. It take time and effort to find the special one.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 2:59:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have you tried Great Slave Lake? get it...Great Sla-

Never mind.....


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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 4:49:33 PM   
Rochsub2009


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Status: offline 		Sorry if i repeat something that has already been said (but this thread is a bit long).  Here's my 2 cents:

Finding a great slave is no different from finding a great spouse.  It is difficult.  But anyone who is wise quickly realizes that to FIND a great spouse, you have to BE a great spouse.  The BDSM world is no different.  To find a great slave, You have to be a great Domme.

There is no standardized definition of "great".  Great is in the eye of the beholder.  So what are You looking for?  One Domme may consider a loving, attentive, sissy maid to be a "great" slave, while another may consider an ATM slave who sends Her money without requiring any real-time interaction to be a "great" slave.  What is Your definition of "great"?

BTW, a "bad" slave for one Domme might be a "great" slave in the hands of another Domme.  Finding a good partner for a D/s relationship is a bit like finding a good dance partners.  A good partner can make you look great, and a bad partner can make you look terrible.  So what type of partner are You?

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/23/2009 6:37:13 PM   
IronBear


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

BTW, a "bad" slave for one Domme might be a "great" slave in the hands of another Domme.  Finding a good partner for a D/s relationship is a bit like finding a good dance partners.  A good partner can make you look great, and a bad partner can make you look terrible.  So what type of partner are You?



Of course this is one of the great mysteries and joys of life isn't it? In theory for every Dominant there is a sub/slave suitable for a great relationship. That's the theory but what it was worked out, I dare say the world was smaller and people had less expectations. To find the right match I should think you'd need to know yourself pretty jolly well.


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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/28/2009 3:52:26 PM   
Skyler86


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Status: offline 		To be a great slave is to completley and utterly submit yourself to your mistress. There are too many people on this site that come here looking to get off or to find some sort of thrill that they can get out of the experience. Now, to me the thrill in the experience is seeing the satisfied look on my mistress' face when I am doing good (never had a mistress but i can assume that is how i would feel)

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/28/2009 3:59:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		hi skyler

that is the ultimate goal.. complete and total surrender.  its a long journey to that goal, it wont happen over night.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/30/2009 7:36:08 PM   
DowagerMum


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Status: offline 		It has been said in several roundabout ways here, but I will state it in my own way.

To have a great slave requires a great "Owner" to train and mould them. The best slave material in the world can be ruined by inept ownersship,

Conversely, while poor slave material cannot be made into a great slave, a "great". i. e. skilled, experienced, dedicated and thoughtful Owner can make it into a good enough slave that less than great "Owners" may not know the difference.

In the case of both Owners and slaves, one cannot say they are either born or made. It reqires both to be really outstanding.

I also agree that different owners have different requirements of Their slave, and what may appear to be a great slave to one may be totally inadequate for another.

Also, a wise Dom of my acquaintance says that He has different requirements, needs and wishes for/from each of His girls.

I wish all here well, enough, and great joy.

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/30/2009 8:17:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: leadership527

Actually, my wild speculation unsupported by anything even remotely resembling facts is that the big limitation to "great slaves" is a way inadequate supply of great masters. At least, in every other venue I've ever been in, it's the leadership role that is harest to fill. I see no reason why it would be any different in BDSM land.

... not to be construed with a fact based statement.




........ well.... all I know is I am doing my part..... I have two great slaves! Maybe if you other Masters would up your game there would more great slaves !!!!

.... not to be construed with a serious based statment..... well maybe ;)

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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/31/2009 1:00:57 AM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		Bull does make a point. I know nothing about what others find here but it is my opinion based on observation and talking to people in real life, face to face, that some jumped up person claiming to be a master and advertising for a slave is unlikely to fine well trained and experienced slaves beating a path to his or her door no matter how sexually attractive he or she is. Such girls and boys are attracted to a Master. That Master has the air of a Master about him and can be seen to be in control of his immediate surroundings without doing a Hollywood  performance. I believe it is the power, ability, and personality of a Dominant who is a Master which makes a submissive a slave even if she or he has been one before. Such a person will cause the submissive to want to be his or her slave and willingly wants to offer their submission..

Just my view and jumbled thoughts on this. It only has validity for those who wish to validate it and those who do not will march to their own drum for there are many paths to the same end.


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RE: why is it hard to find a GREAT SLAVE?? - 10/31/2009 2:22:38 AM   
blackcat39


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Status: offline 		I'm very very picky about who I am with.  I'm hard to please, and bore easily.  I'd hate to think I am not with the perfect person for me.  Plus I'm very good looking, and its not easy to find someone who is as confident and good looking as myself.   And if they are good looking, doesn't mean they are beautiful on the inside, where it really counts.  Its easy to find an average looking girl with a great personality.  I just don't like to settle.  I'm very very picky.  I'm looking for my cake and eat it too.  ;0

Seems most people are not only looking for a relationship, but a bdsm one at that on here.  That makes it harder to find the right person.....not all kinks match up....you want me to piss on you?  hmm, next!!

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