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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/16/2009 9:16:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone else tired of the Heene's? 

I swear I've had my fill today....haven't been this bombarded since Jon and Kate, and until they were on every freaking channel I didn't even know who they were, didn't even know they had a show...lol

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 8:18:31 PM   
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Anybody heard an update? I have a very strong feeling something weird is going on here. Something is very wrong with that family.




Sheriff: Charges will be filed in balloon saga



FORT COLLINS, Colo. – A Colorado sheriff said he was pursuing criminal charges in the case of a 6-year-old boy who vanished into the rafters of his garage while the world thought he was zooming through the sky in a flying saucer-like helium balloon.

The boy's parents, Richard and Mayumi Heene, met with Larimer County investigators for much of the afternoon, but Sheriff Jim Alderden didn't say who would be charged or what the charges would be.

Alderden didn't call Thursday's hours-long drama a hoax, but he expressed disappointment that he couldn't level more serious charges in the incident, which sent police and the military scrambling to save young Falcon Heene as millions of worried television viewers watched.

"We were looking at Class 3 misdemeanor, which hardly seems serious enough given the circumstances," Alderden said. "We are talking to the district attorney, federal officials to see if perhaps there aren't additional federal charges that are appropriate in this circumstance."

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 8:34:24 PM   
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"We were looking at Class 3 misdemeanor, which hardly seems serious enough given the circumstances," Alderden said. "We are talking to the district attorney, federal officials to see if perhaps there aren't additional federal charges that are appropriate in this circumstance."



Oh-oh. That sounds like one pissed-off cop!


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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 10:11:26 PM   
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Oh-oh. That sounds like one pissed-off cop!



I don't blame him for being pissed off.  Think of the time and money that went into this.  I thought it was a scam from the start and I'm sure they did too, but they were obligated to follow through on it just in case it was not.

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 10:42:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, the fact that he's this pissed points very strongly in only one direction - that it was a hoax, and the charges that will be filed are all centered around that. What else could they have found out in today's interview that would have made him so angry? Any other issue that would have led to charges, they already knew about. There's no other aspect of this that could have been found out just  today.

What a dickhead this character is. I feel so sorry for those poor kids. I suppose I ought to feel sorry for his wife too, but frankly, fuck her. She's an adult, and it's her job to protect her children from  shit like this. She's as responsible as he is.


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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 10:55:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		I saw some of the footage from that wife swap show.  Number one his "anger" looks phoney and played up for the cameras, and two, they showed this one scene where he was yelling at the "wife" he as given and even threw some kind of drink on her.  To me that's verbal and physical assault, not sure why no one pressed charges.

The way he acts, why the heck would those people put him on that show twice?  Are they that hard up for ratings, where they would take a chance on getting sued.

Listened to and saw the video of the actual "lift off"  it looked rehearsed, and badly.

I'm like you Panda...why won't the mother do anything about this loser, she's not showing much love for her kids...but from what I saw on tv, she's just as nuts as he is

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 11:37:57 PM   
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I'm like you Panda...why won't the mother do anything about this loser, she's not showing much love for her kids...but from what I saw on tv, she's just as nuts as he is


Yeah, something about her just isn't connected properly. I know that some will say, "oh, she's an abused spouse, she's as much of a victim as the kids are", but I'm not having any of that today, thank you. I won't say I don't care, because i do. But I will say that it doesn't matter, because it doesn't. A parent's first responsibility is to protect their children, even if it's from the other parent. She made the wrong decisions, and put her kids in a bad position.

And while I'm at it, how fucking dumb does someone have to be to involve a 6-year old child in a conspiracy to perpetrate a hoax? Aside from the obvious fact that it's thoroughly wrong, how dumb do you have to be to think a 6-year old is going to be able to keep a secret like that? Did 6-year olds suddenly become, like, a gazillion times more sophisticated last week than they were throughout the previous several million years of human evolution? What was this moron thinking? There's a phrase i use a lot; with employees, I use it quietly and low-key as a teaching tool, and with people like this Heene guy, I use it scornfully and derisively - how did you expect that to turn out? What a complete cretin. He deserves to be the international laughing stock he's about to become. He got his publicity alright; just one more example of why people should always be careful of what they wish for.


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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 11:56:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got the radio on, listening to news and weather, and I just heard the sheriff being interviewed. It is going to be charged as a hoax. He wouldn't come out and say it, but when someone asked him that question, he replied, "I've told you everything I can, short of telling you straight out. I think you can all read between the lines. You get the gist of what I'm saying." Sounds pretty clear to me. Filing a false police report is the official charge, I believe.

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/17/2009 11:59:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		you said it, he's a moron.

He probably thought he could keep them all in line through intimidation.  If you noticed when they were on those morning shows that he had his hand on his back or in some contact the whole time.  It was like the kid was a ventriliquist dummy. 

And if you had just been through a "trauma" wouldn't you want to lock yourself in the house with your family and just thank the Lord that they are all here and alright?  No, this idiot starts the interviews a couple of hours after the "ordeal".  I think it began that night with larry king, and they went on from there, not to mention all the local ones they gave before that.

That poor kid, that whole family was up all night.  Thekid was so stressed he forgot to "lie" about it, and he was throwing up.  Even when they finally let him sleep, they let cameras in to watch that....they need those kids taken from them

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 12:00:41 AM   
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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:10:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		WHoly moley-- i know this was a serious issue with all the manpower etc used but the TODAY SHow has a CRIMINAL PROFILER lol on regarding this incident lol. I saw this family on both wifeswap episodes and i don't put it past them to come up with such a hoax. They need to simply send this guy the bill for all the money wasted on this and cite him and be done with it.

I can't believe they didn't get a clue when it came out that dad's first calls were to 1 -- A LOCAL TELEVISION STATION!! 2--- FAA and 3 -- 911.

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:34:59 AM   
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Yeah, something about her just isn't connected properly. I know that some will say, "oh, she's an abused spouse

Indeed, that is my opinion. She has been psychologically and spiritually abused by her manipulative and plain evil husband, I suspect.
That sheriff had better try for her to press charges of abuse, I think.

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What a complete cretin. He deserves to be the international laughing stock he's about to become. He got his publicity alright; just one more example of why people should always be careful of what they wish for.

Actually, I hope that some psychopath with an urge to improve the world decides to bump him off. Such psychopaths can be extremely usefull.



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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:37:02 AM   
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they need those kids taken from them

Quite. (The spouse needs to be removed from him as well for her own safety and well being.)


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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 8:29:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw an article that said that the police had been called to their house a couple of times and that the wife appeared to have some marks on her face but said everything was fine once they got there. Colorado is pretty serious about domestic abuse and I don't understand this, as I know someone who threw her keys at a partner and got into trouble for domestic abuse. If domestic abuse is suspected the police... I was told this by the police in Longmont, which is next door to Larimer county, that they are required to call in social services to check the family out. So things just aren't adding up for me. Maybe at the time the police didn't feel there was enough evidence and then needed the wife's statement that she had been abused.

But... just from the clip I saw of the wife swapping show with this guy throwing something on the swapped wife, is considered intimidation and is a part of domestic abuse. That won't go well for him if they do have charges and can prove it wasn't staged for the show and are going on his charactor and past behavior.

I hope they nail the guy and have enough evidence to press more than false police reports. They are going to need more than the word of a six year old. It sounds like they got something.

I think the sheriff was extra mad because he did believe that it was a real incident and said so publically a number of times. Everyone bought the realistic feelings and emotions the family displayed throughout that day and many were fooled into believing they were for real. So besides all it took to respond to the situation and the expense of at least three different counties and national guard and such, they were played and no one likes to be fooled and played. I heard more than the sheriff saying that they believed the family... until that Larry King show. lol

I also don't think his anger is faked. I watched the face of the older son, repeatedly and I saw awareness, fear and an oh shit look on his face a number of times when he thought the gig was up and dad might get mad. But that was just my take on it. Being the great and involved dad and explosive the next minute will cause kids to act afraid because they never know when he will go off and that look spoke to me from years of watching family dynamic's and children with angry, unstable or inconsistant parents.

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 10:47:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Okay, so last night the 3 offspring (plus a friend of offspring) & I watched the clip of Wolf Blitzer grilling (as much as he's capable of) the family about Falcon's little slip of the tongue. Well, mostly the dad, but the whole family was on display . . . .

Does anyone here watch 'Lie To Me'? I'm quite a fan, & a fan of the topic of deception detection & body language in general . . . & we felt like we were having a 'Lie To Me' moment, watching that family . . . .

We were so fascinated we watched it twice, & then watched a clip that followed with a body language / deception detection expert . . .. The following kinda sums up the discussion we had about what we were seeing . . . . .

The 'energy' / body language / dynamics visible were bizarre. Dad seems to be a massive control freak . . . The way he was avoiding looking directly into the camera or in its general direction was, frankly, creepy. Made me wonder if he has issues meeting people's gaze . ... .

& Mom did this sorta odd thing when Dad was questioning Falcon. Mom was nodding her head yes while clearly the answer was supposed to be 'no', no, falcon was not part of some scheme . . . . . I read it as mom's-conflicted about what's going on . . .

The brother / son sitting next to Mom seemed to be showing signs of repressing stuff (middle offspring noted those signs) & I found it interesting he was sitting next to Mom, suggesting he may be the 'weak link' in the chain of lies . . . . . .

& the thing that really stood out for me was that Falcon was really testing limits with the fidgeting & the wiggling about on Dad's lap. I read the possibility that he's 'got' something on Dad (ie, that he's 'in' on the deception & knows it is 'being naughty') & is 'acting out' from this position of power, which suggests to me that there may be power struggles going on as a regular course with that relationship . .. . . & don't even get me started on the subject of if-one-is-arguing-with-a-kid-the-kid-has-won . . . . .

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:05:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tired of the Heenes and of Jon and Kate plus 8 ad naseum!

Last i heard on the Hennees they are getting felony charges and i hope they get a bill for this stupid thing.
I hope they think it was worth it all for a possible t.v. show starring them...Unbelievable...

I wonder if we complained to all the t.v. stations that they would shut up about it. It is too much trying to one up the competition on the news. Turn any channel of the news on and you will see practically the same story on at the same time. I did this one night and sure enough it was the same.

I don't watch the news. What news or headlines i see are online...

It is truly sad that this is what many are fixated on, other people's dirt. I can't avoid the news that is online when i log in. I try to but ....

I wish for the days of Walter Cronkite etc. when the news WAS THE NEWS!

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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:18:45 PM   
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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:23:10 PM   
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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:31:02 PM   
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& the thing that really stood out for me was that Falcon was really testing limits with the fidgeting & the wiggling about on Dad's lap. I read the possibility that he's 'got' something on Dad (ie, that he's 'in' on the deception & knows it is 'being naughty') & is 'acting out' from this position of power, which suggests to me that there may be power struggles going on as a regular course with that relationship . .. . . & don't even get me started on the subject of if-one-is-arguing-with-a-kid-the-kid-has-won . . . . .


Really? I just saw it as a 6-year-old child who wanted to get off his father's lap, nothing more. Remember that it's hard for a child that age to sit still for long periods of time


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RE: Anybody Else Watching This? - 10/18/2009 5:49:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree about the news being bias and like the national enquirer.

I was pretty naive about the news, I thought if nothing else, whatever the news did report would be somewhat accurate, if nothing else so they would not be sued, until, a co-worker was killed by her ex husband.  The news media on all channels, only talked to "his" brother and made her seem like some kind of whore, and his brother was some poor guy that had been wronged, that did this on the spur of the moment.

They didn't go into why she finally divorced him after years of him cheating, abandoning the family when he did, and made me wonder how they could slant it as a crime of passion, he didn't walk in and find a wife in bed with someone, she was his ex, and he followed her and her boyfriend to not one but two cities, lie in wait for them to come out of the hotel, and brought a kitchen knife from home.  After he stabbed her he ran over her....looks like he had plenty of time to "think" about things.

The media, didn't even try to talk to any one in her life, and I know some that called the station that tried.  And taking the brother's word?  he is a guy convicted of stalking and spousal abuse himself.

hell, they didn't even get her age right....not one of the stations or the paper. 



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