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Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 3:09:24 PM   
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My Mother, for coming to this country at 18 and making a life for her and her husband, leaving her family behind, and starting new here, helping my Father with his education and degrees, while taking care of our family.  Raising 3 daughters and then bringing her entire family from Europe here.  

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 3:25:34 PM   
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My greatgrandmother for having ovaries the size of melons...she buried 2 abusive husbands (looooooong stories), came to the States from Germany and raised 13 children with husband 3, taught all the girls in the family manners, was 4'11" and took no guff from Nooooobody.

My mother for giving me up when she couldn't take care of me.

My aunt Pam for laughing her way through cancer, and being the strength that kept the rest of us from falling apart.

My sisters...for their strength in adversity, for their ability to keep us all together even when 100's of miles seperate us.

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 5:51:35 PM   
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My grandmother.  Came to the US as a refugee in her mid thirties.  Was widowed in her fifties.  Plowed her energy and money into a physical therapy business and made it succeed.  Retired at 87.  During her life, she never spoke ill of anyone (except Hitler, the reason she left Germany).  She died at 102, mourned by all who knew her.

Carol Burnett.  The product of a broken home, she worked hard for everything she got.  I have heard stories from different sources about how gracious and easy to work with she is.  And she's IMO the most talented woman to ever be on screen.


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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 6:02:55 PM   
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My mom. The bravest, most decent, and kindest person I've ever known.

Oprah Winfrey. Yes, she has shortcomings, kinda like we all do, but she has accomplished a great deal.

Ellen Degeneres. Funny, and has guts.

Republican senator Susan Collins. Has an excellent head on her shoulders, and has an independent streak to go with it.

Camille Paglia. A feminist I can relate to.

purepleasure. Sends some toe-curling mails.


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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 7:25:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressLavinia

My Mother, for coming to this country at 18 and making a life for her and her husband, leaving her family behind, and starting new here, helping my Father with his education and degrees, while taking care of our family.  Raising 3 daughters and then bringing her entire family from Europe here.  


My Uncle.....great man.

My middle name...he died some 20 years back.

Good guy.




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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 10:26:13 PM   
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My mother. Even after having a massive nervous breakdown when she was in her late twenties she has come back to still be the matriarch of the family... I love her dearly.

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 11:04:57 PM   
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My Mom.  For more reasons that I can even list, but that list includes loving me when I was doing everything to be UNlovable, and for being a role model that it took me damn near 40 yrs to figure out I want to emulate.

When I was a teen, I swore I never wanted to be like her.  NOW, I hope and pray that I can become half the woman she is.

Most of the women I know here:  for being good moms, sisters, friends etc.  Love you, oddballs :)


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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 11:18:23 PM   
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Me.  I've lived through my own private holocaust (that's what my Jewish therapist called it), survived, and transcended it.

I may be screwed up in a lot of ways, but by gum and by golly, I haven't slit my wrists, beaten anyone else up or begun a conspiracy against x, y, or z.

I am pretty damn fantastic.

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/16/2009 11:19:41 PM   
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yes, you are :) 

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/17/2009 12:00:32 AM   
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LOL... Yeah.... Not meaning to belittle anyone's experience but I too have been through my own private holocaust.

For 16 years, nearly 17, I was married to a woman with 1. BiPolar Disorder, 2. Paranoia, 3. Delusions of Grandeur, 4. Anxiety Disorder, 5. Clautrophobia, 6. Xenophobia, 7. Mild Agoraphobia, 8. Compulsive Exagerator, 9. Delusions (Her dreams became in her mind real occurances), 8. Disassociative Identity Disorder (16 personalities whose names I knew, but according to one personality there were over 100).

She accused me of abuse, killing 3 of our pets (even though they were obviously accidents or I was no where around when it happened), child abuse, adultery (with my male mechanic, even though she knew I was not gay), of trying to kill her even though she was the one sitting with a knife hovering over me when I awoke, (I slept in a different room and a locked door for the last 3 years of the marriage). Plus she had fibromyalgia, Reynald's syndrome, displaced spine, could barely walk, and not at all without a cane or walker. She was nearly blind, one retina had detached and she had a band around it to repair it.

People asked me why I did not divorce her earlier. It was because I knew she needed help and I was doing everything I could to find her doctors for both her physical and mental disorders that she could afford on her disability check. She had been fired by over four doctors because she would argue with them having thought they had done something wrong to her when they had done nothing. For three years she even tried to get one doctor disbarred over her imaginary infraction.

The first time I filed for divorce I was in NY and unless we had lived apart for a year the only way I could file was to clain cruel and inhumane treatment. However, she refused to accept the filing unless she got to include a letter explaining herside and MY GOD it was nothing but one lie or exageration or half truth after another. The judge had already approved the divorce but was waiting for a document from her. She called the judge and in the process so rattled the judge that he refused to grant the divorce unless we went to a hearing. By that time we had already moved to Indiana and even though I could return there was no way she could so he dismissed the case.

I had to refile in Indiana. Even here it took longer than it should of because she required extra steps that were not required by the law. She would not notarize any documents and then send them to me because she believed I would alter them. Even the judge threw his hands in the air on this one. There was one document that she was supposed to download and send in. She could not find it even with the secretary of the judge on the phone telling her exactly where to go. Finally, I asked the court to allow her to simply write the information out in her own words and they accepted that.

It still took more than a month longer because she delayed everything as long as she could. Even though she was in desparate need for the divorce to be finalized as well because she needed Medicaid help and as long as we were still married she could not get all she wass allowed.

Finally, it was approved. I sent her her copies and she pitched a bitch because they were photo copied and not original. I had to have the court call her and tell her that that was okay.

My only alimony to her is that I have to keep her in a cell phone as long as she does not abuse the services of her phone. Since this is only 10 to 15 dollars a month I see it as a very small price to pay for my freedom from her.

Now to top things off. One month after our separation, before the divorce was complete, I discovered I had Cancer. It was not treatable by surgery. Oh, they can remove the largest tumor but not all of them because there are several on the surface of my bones. The first oncologist told me that he did not think I would last a year.

Of course I got a second opinion, and that doctor said he did not see an expiration date written on me anywhere. The surgeon he sent me to said I might make it 5 years. My own doctor again said that was absurd, I had a Chronic disease and not a terminal one. (Not yet terminal anyway). The first drug he put me on worked wonderfully and reduced the sizes of my tumors by more than 50%. Then it stopped working and the tumor regrew 10%. I was terrified, was even told by one of his assistants that that was not a good sign and that he doubted that any other medicine I took would help. Again I was told 2 to 5 years.

They put me on an experimental drug. And it began working. The tumors shrunk again, smaller than they had reached before and then stabilized. The last three scans the reduction has been in the millimeters, (still reducing but not enough to really count, hell to me any reduction is counting). So they say I have stabilized. I am told that this will more than likely last this way and perhaps I can live out my normal lifespan. No longer any deadline to worry about. And because of a side effect that causes my tongue to hurt severely, makingit difficult to eat, I am losing my weight on a regular basis. My first visit to the oncologist I weighed 365, (highest ever was 475), I am now down to 259, 106 pounds lost in 18 months at the doctor, and 216 pounds lost in four years.

I am in the best physical shape I have been since I was eighteen except for the tumors, and yes they do cause me pain. I take extremely strong pain killers and they help. I am no longer even phased by the medicines as far as drowsiness or dizziness like many people would be if they took oxycontin 80mg three times a day and vicodin 10mg codiene, 1 to 2 tablets up to 6 times a day. Most people would not even awake to eat.

So that is my personal Holocaust, and had it not been for my angel I do not know if I would be here. There were several times during the divorce and the fight of the cancer that I wanted to just give up, but thanks to her I found the strength to continue the fight.

Sorry for taking so much of your time and talking in a forum that had nothing to do with this topic, but oh well.

Robert

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/17/2009 12:11:37 AM   
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had it not been for my angel I do not know if I would be here. There were several times during the divorce and the fight of the cancer that I wanted to just give up, but thanks to her I found the strength to continue the fight.

Robert


There you go Robert.  Sounds like she is a woman you admire.

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/17/2009 3:42:36 AM   
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god, I am gonna be on this thread a lonnnnng, lonnnnnng time.

over and over again.

day in, day out.

to begin, one of our own:

FWUFFY.

Fluffypet is lovely, never lets what life doles out make her be anything but sincere and wonderful on the board, has a beautiful smile (and a REAL one! good pic Fwuff!), appreciates the arts that take years and decades for people to make, and is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT GENUINE.

GOD
 
BLESS
 
FWUFFY!

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/17/2009 6:15:57 AM   
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Mary Harris Jones: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Harris_Jones

Her most famous quote: "Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living."

Helluva woman..............luci

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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/17/2009 6:40:53 AM   
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Elizabeth Kubler-Ross.

My idol. She captured grief in five stages as per "Death and Dying".


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RE: Women you most admire and why - 10/17/2009 11:46:49 AM   
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Im admiring holly, because she gives good advice, laughs, and is super cool

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