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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 1:08:09 AM

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He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food.
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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 3:41:02 AM

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He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food.
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You should really try to get yourself a master who's not an abusive jerk.

Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 7:24:38 AM

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I'm simply curious as to what kinds of punishment are regularly in rotation in your lives? Details given would be appreciated but not entirely necessary, I'm just trying to open up a dialogue.

verbal correction is usually more than enough. i expect to have behavioral infractions addressed and wouldn't want them ignored. doing so keeps me mindful and serves to remove unbecoming and inappropriate habits. aside from this silence is always useful, though admittedly i have a hard time with it. i typically isolate myself and turn within. i allow myself to feel the pain and focus on Him and what occurred. i look for the lesson and embrace the discomfort i'm experiencing. it is a period of lamentation that is eventually overshadowed by a willingness to surrender myself in this vain. anger, disappointment, and blame are replaced with peace, acceptance, and the internalization of His will.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 8:36:05 AM

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We don't have a punishment dynamic. It makes me fear him and withdraw from him.

We use communication instead. What we have found is that on every occasion where it appeared that I deliberately didn't obey, what has happened instead is that there was miscommunication. That I misunderstood what he meant, that he spoke unclearly, or he misinterpreted my words. How can punishment make understanding clearer? He could punish me for hours and I still wouldn't understand. Only communication can help that.

As far as my attitude goes, he asks me why I am being bitchy or whatever and I think about it. We have discovered that it is always due to my not being in tune with my body. I will skip meals or be overtired and not express the problem. So we're working on paying attention to what time it is, when last we ate etc. Because he will skip meals also until he gets ill. So we're trying to pay attention to how many hours it has been. Because if I am fed, if my blood sugar levels don't plummet, then I'm not nearly as likely to have a bad day. But am I in control of my blood sugar? Do I deliberately tell them to sink so this will happen? Obviously not.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 9:09:39 AM

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I'm not dreamerdreaming, but anal sex with no lube and rough anal at that can cause severe anal troubles, including fissures, which need medical help to heal, and I wonder at the dom who's willing to basically dry anal fuck someone considering the damage you could do to that someones health.

And of course leaving a woman out in the park all night alone could of gotten her assualted or worse. Unless he only pretended to leave her alone and was watching her the whole time.

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Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 9:14:59 AM

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I'm not dreamerdreaming, but anal sex with no lube and rough anal at that can cause severe anal troubles, including fissures, which need medical help to heal, and I wonder at the dom who's willing to basically dry anal fuck someone considering the damage you could do to that someones health.

And of course leaving a woman out in the park all night alone could of gotten her assualted or worse. Unless he only pretended to leave her alone and was watching her the whole time.

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Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

Actually, in females, sometimes the tears will not heal, even with medical help. The lining between the colo-rectal wall and vaginal wall is, in spots, extremely thin and sensitive. And if torn (please pardon the graphic detail, but, physiology is what it is) can cause things to leak from one side to the other, and cause constant infections, toxic reactions, extreme pain and discomfort, and are extremely unlikely to ever actually heal. So uh... yeah, I'd advise against rough, dry, bum luvin. Unless you want the high possibility of inflicting a person with a lifetime of pain and medical bills out the... well... anyway.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 9:28:58 AM

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Most of what i do CAN cause injury, that doesn't make it abuse. I think far to often the word abuse is tossed around when it truly shouldn't be.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 10:40:00 AM

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Yup, I was going to say you can have poop leaking into parts you're not meant to, but I wasn't exactly sure, so I didn't say it because I want to keep my post accurate.

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Actually, in females, sometimes the tears will not heal, even with medical help. The lining between the colo-rectal wall and vaginal wall is, in spots, extremely thin and sensitive. And if torn (please pardon the graphic detail, but, physiology is what it is) can cause things to leak from one side to the other, and cause constant infections, toxic reactions, extreme pain and discomfort, and are extremely unlikely to ever actually heal. So uh... yeah, I'd advise against rough, dry, bum luvin. Unless you want the high possibility of inflicting a person with a lifetime of pain and medical bills out the... well... anyway.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 12:03:53 PM

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Oh boy, if that would of been my Master.... I think I would of bi***slapped him into next week. That was abuse and not punishment.

As to my punishment, Master made a paddle about 24 inches long 5 inches wide and 5 huge holes in it. When I feel that I have messed up BIG TIME, I am to bring him that paddle and beg for punishment. Needless to say I try my hardest not to mess up. HOWEVER Master also realizes that we are all human and mistakes will happen. (eg. I fail to set up the coffee machine for in the morning), then he will tease me gently knowing that I will beat myself up over it. Well except for when I forget to pack his boots when we went to a major event.....and that one time when I forget my collar at home..... ( Master picked it up on his way out; but I was still crying al the way to the evnt when he finally revealed to me he had picked it up) ..... The hardest punishment Master can give me is to tell me I displeased him, and ....well..... that darn paddle.... did I mentioned that I hate paddles ??

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 12:09:47 PM

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He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food.
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You should really try to get yourself a master who's not an abusive jerk.

Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

LMAO....wow just wow

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 1:27:36 PM

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Most of what i do CAN cause injury, that doesn't make it abuse. I think far to often the word abuse is tossed around when it truly shouldn't be.

I don't know if permanent and possibly life threatening injury due to severe infection and internal bleeding could be a case where the term "abuse" shouldn't be used. Perhaps one would be wise to ask the police if it would be the case? Or a doctor, or a judge, or jury, or any person with any bit of common sense. But that's just me.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 3:18:36 PM

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Most of what i do CAN cause injury, that doesn't make it abuse. I think far to often the word abuse is tossed around when it truly shouldn't be.

I don't know if permanent and possibly life threatening injury due to severe infection and internal bleeding could be a case where the term "abuse" shouldn't be used. Perhaps one would be wise to ask the police if it would be the case? Or a doctor, or a judge, or jury, or any person with any bit of common sense. But that's just me.

I wouldn't rely on the police, doctor, judge, jury or any one ELSE's common-sense to decide what is abusive ....for me.

Much of our relationship would/could be interpreted as *abuse* and plenty of it would most ASSUREDLY be illegal.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 3:50:53 PM

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Leaving her alone in a public park to be mugged, raped and/or murdered may not fall into the category of abuse. It does however show him to be an uncaring jerk. Even if he was watching from across the street all night which seems doubtful, would he have been able to rescue her from a gang on the prowl? No.

Is he someone worth submitting to? By no means.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 3:59:43 PM

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He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food.
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You should really try to get yourself a master who's not an abusive jerk.

Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

Damn pixie, what part of that punishment ISN'T abusive? Lord only knows what could have happened in that park. As others have said, even if he was watching there is no guarantee he could have gotten there in time.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 4:09:17 PM

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Leaving her in a park overnight alone is just plain stupidity. Not abuse.
I get face slapped hard on a regular basis and regularly have anal with only spit as the lube. I see no issue with any of those things and wouldn't call them abusive at all.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 5:27:46 PM

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I don't get punished. I do everything in my power to do what he says and to do things to make his life better and to make him as happy as I can. He knows that the only other people that ever come before him are my daughters because I also do everything in my power to make their lives better and as happy as I can and he never would interfere with that.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 6:03:20 PM

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He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food.
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You should really try to get yourself a master who's not an abusive jerk.

Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

Damn pixie, what part of that punishment ISN'T abusive? Lord only knows what could have happened in that park. As others have said, even if he was watching there is no guarantee he could have gotten there in time.

It's a public park and there are no gaurantees that she wont slip and fall getting out of the tub and that he would ge to her fast enough.

I have had anal w/o lube and enjoyed it. Did it do perminant damange? Nope. Can it. Again so can fire play, breath play, flogging, caning, ect. So that is a mute point.

My master has never slapped me in punishment but being slapped isn't abuse to me, hell we do that in play.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 6:07:53 PM

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Most of what i do CAN cause injury, that doesn't make it abuse. I think far to often the word abuse is tossed around when it truly shouldn't be.

I don't know if permanent and possibly life threatening injury due to severe infection and internal bleeding could be a case where the term "abuse" shouldn't be used. Perhaps one would be wise to ask the police if it would be the case? Or a doctor, or a judge, or jury, or any person with any bit of common sense. But that's just me.

I have news for you by legal standards most of what "I" do isn't legal and can be classified as abuse on some level by the legal system. That is why knowing your local laws and being aware of how I put myself out there publically as far as my play is important to me. However, THOSE laws don't decitate MY definition of what abuse is.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/25/2009 11:31:41 PM

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Most of what i do CAN cause injury, that doesn't make it abuse. I think far to often the word abuse is tossed around when it truly shouldn't be.

Whether or not it is abuse is not the question, however what it is by legal definition is assault and battery.

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RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... - 10/26/2009 12:22:59 AM

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He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food.
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You should really try to get yourself a master who's not an abusive jerk.

Wow. Judgemental much? I am curious what part of the punishenment that you quoted is abusive and why?

I'm not dreamerdreaming, but I'm giving my opinion anyway with the risk of being flamed. Whether or not it's abusive, it's neglectful and uncaring. Leaving a woman in a park alone all night unattended and coming back the next morning opens her up for all manner of assault, rape, murder, etc. Why would He do that to someone if He really cared about her at all? Those are the actions of an unthinking, uncaring ass with an anger problem that clouds His better judgement, in my opinion. I'd have left that jerk so fast, the door wouldn't hit my ass on the way out.

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