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devilishpixie -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/26/2009 2:33:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Acer49 quote: ORIGINAL: devilishpixie Most of what i do CAN cause injury, that doesn't make it abuse. I think far to often the word abuse is tossed around when it truly shouldn't be. Whether or not it is abuse is not the question, however what it is by legal definition is assault and battery. Everytime i am slapped in play or god forbid caned or cropped THAT by legal defination can be assault as well so what is your point?

littleone35 -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/26/2009 9:59:16 AM)
I have only been punishd once in the almost 4 years we have been together. I have benn displined a few times. Punishment and displine is very different for us. Master has me tell him why i am being displined and if i honestly don't know he tells me why. It is corporal punishment usually, well recently he did something else when i would not stop tickling him. Well that is neither here nor there it works for us, i have never repeated the infractions that got me displined or punished. I just LOVE when Master calls mr MY good girl. Matt's littleone

spookyfe -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/27/2009 10:31:45 AM)
we hardly have punishment becaue i jsut want to please him and will do my best onve i got very emotional (well more than once) and it wasnt a rational emotion just i wind mydelf up at times he puts me ina corner for no more than half hour thats usually all i need to get focus back then he will hold me. the only other time i have been punished is in bed when i ahve on occasion elbowed him by mistake in the netherregeons ok dont elbow yoru master when hes got his fingers ina very tight painful grip of your nipples. he just said thats for elbowing me be more careful and boy did the next squeeze hurt more than anything i have felt i will defiantly be more careful

knownobody -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/27/2009 8:56:08 PM)
quote: Leaving a woman in a park alone all night unattended and coming back the next morning opens her up for all manner of assault, rape, murder, etc. Well surely that would depend on where the park was. To me, it sounds like a quite reasonable punishment - heck, it could have easily been made more cruel with a little tinkering - and one that presumably fell within the parameters/dynamics of the relationship, so I don't see how it in any way qualifies as "abuse". She wasn't chained to bench - if she so wished, she could have walked away and gone to a hotel or wherever for the night - and the couple were even in contact via phone during the ordeal.

WyldHrt -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/27/2009 10:12:17 PM)
quote: Well surely that would depend on where the park was. Umm... have you ever been to Las Vegas? If it's the park I'm thinking of, it's hella dark at night and no place a woman should be left alone. quote: To me, it sounds like a quite reasonable punishment - heck, it could have easily been made more cruel with a little tinkering Yeah, 23 hours with no food and left completely alone in a public park for the night... sounds like a reasonable punishment for her getting upset that he left her alone in a casino for 14 hours with no money to even get something to eat [8\|] quote: She wasn't chained to bench - if she so wished, she could have walked away and gone to a hotel or wherever for the night A hotel... with what money? She said that she didn't have money to get food at the casino, and that she knew no one else in Vegas. This leads me to think that she didn't know the area well, either. quote: and the couple were even in contact via phone during the ordeal. So? How would that have helped if she had been attacked? Abuse or not, what he did was, IMO, fucked up.

HisBestGirl -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/28/2009 12:08:16 AM)
Hi all In response to some earlier comments regarding my original post; This is the first time I have ever been punished; I continue to strive to make him happy, to make his life easier and better in any way I can. However, without getting into too much detail, I am prone to emotional meltdowns (history of anxiety and depression) which result in less-than-rational behaviour and when driven purely by emotion, my behaviour can be rather immature (hence, 'brattish'). His usual response to when I cross boundaries is to say "I am taking you home. I will call you when you and I have calmed down." Whilst time to reflect is always useful, my history means that I take this 'separation period' usually has a detrimental effect, rather than a positive one. I don't do well with isolation or 'time-outs'. Hence, the discussion began regarding a 'punishment', which I suppose could really be termed an alternative. Hopefully, its purpose will be to both snap me out of my 'self destructive' behaviour pattern and to also show compliance and acquiesence to him. I really do appreciate how understanding he is in regards to my behaviour and how willing he is to work with me to imrpove both my behaviour, myself and my service to him. Having successfully overused quotation marks, I'll move on... On a separate note; call me cynical but I found the way the story about the dom who left his girl in a park overnight rather... unsettling. Not least because of the content of the punishment but also because her account seemed to be written in the narrative style, reminiscent of an fictional story. My first impression was that the story was false. But once again, that may just be my cynicism rising to the fore. So apologies to the poster if that is the case.

lucylucy -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/28/2009 10:16:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HisBestGirl call me cynical but I found the way the story about the dom who left his girl in a park overnight rather... unsettling. Not least because of the content of the punishment but also because her account seemed to be written in the narrative style, reminiscent of an fictional story. My first impression was that the story was false. But once again, that may just be my cynicism rising to the fore. So apologies to the poster if that is the case. I had the same thought--that the story could be fictional or perhaps loosely based on a real incident but fictionalized.

ImOnMyKnees4u -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/29/2009 11:19:55 AM)
[I dont get bratty with him, were both smartasses and he finds that cute about me, now if i get stressed from my family which i always do when they come around, i sometimes take it out on him by being rude and snotty. I than get tied to the bed and spanked till i cant sit on my ass. I must say.... i dont get snotty very much anymore, those marks reminded me to keep my mouth shut LOL Ceribdis's subbie

ImOnMyKnees4u -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/29/2009 11:33:45 AM)
WOW, My Master shook his head at that. It is a masters job to protect you, you are his responsability. That is abuse and neglect NOT punishment. No offence! Ceribdis's subbie quote: ORIGINAL: blackdaddy4me My Master has made me lie across the bed with no panties and whipped me with his belt until my ass was bright red and streaked with welts.Twice he has held me down and forcefully taken me in my ass with only his spit as lubricant. He slapped me in the mouth once to remind me who i was talking to (tone of voice was too assertive)..later that same night he dropped me off at a park at around midnight,gave me his leather jacket, told me to sit on the bench, and said i was outside for the night, that he would return at 9am and that i was not to move from the bench and needed to be exactly where he left me when he picked me up; that i needed to think about why he'd slapped me in the mouth earlier (he'd left me waiting at a casino w no money for him to pick me up for 14hrs,when he finally answered my call I was frantic as he was the only person i knew in Vegas, i was starving and frantic and my voice tone was too frantic so after he slapped me in the mouth startling me i started to cry, i cried all the way to the park he made me spend the night at and wait 9 more hours right after the 14 hrs with no food. I was pissed and outraged. i was texting some pretty angry things to him, that he was a monster and not the daddy i fell in love with, i cried when i had to pee and had to get off the bench he told me to "stay",then it got cold and dark and quiet..i curled into myself inside his big jacket and got very quiet as i was scared.my txts were more subdued..like that women were not supposed to be outside all night alone and that even in the arab country id spent my first 7 yrs in men ownd their women but would never leave their possessions outside all night unsupervised to risk being damaged or taken..by sunrise, my texts to him were begging him to forgive me for forgetting my place and my voice tone and thanking him for allowing me to atone for my insolence. When he picked me up at 9am i thought he was going to punish me for my angry texts id sent earlier in the night.I was delirious and babbling softly that i loved him and that i was sorry n id obey, id be his good girl i promised...he said very gently, "you are my good girl, the best girl i've ever had. you get to have mcdonalds and ride with me to run errands".i was so happy as i fell into a deep sleep in his vehicle next to him..til i woke up starving and realized id slept through the errands time and mcdonalds..i started whining i was so hungry and im such a good girl n try so hard to plz him n serve him but it ddnt matter i still got punished n i wantd my daddy, the good daddy i fell in love with that protected me n...i stopped in mid sentence as he put a mcmuffin in my hand..it was silent except for me eating the rest of the ride home. As we pulled in i thanked him softly for being my daddy..i wrote a poem about how scared id been n that i ddnt understand until morning when it ddnt matter to me that it wasnt fair and a very harsh punishment..it worked because i have never ever raised my voice or talked back to my master again..n he has never left me outside overnight again

MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/29/2009 12:02:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957 Leaving a woman in a park alone all night unattended and coming back the next morning opens her up for all manner of assault, rape, murder, etc... Those are the actions of an unthinking, uncaring ass with an anger problem... What she said. Others are welcome to debate whether it was "abuse/abusive" or not... the bottom line is, the behavior was IRRESPONSIBLE as fuck!!!

ImOnMyKnees4u -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/29/2009 2:40:00 PM)
what MasterSlaveLA said!!!! ceribdis's subbie

DesFIP -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/30/2009 3:21:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HisBestGirl Hi all In response to some earlier comments regarding my original post; This is the first time I have ever been punished; I continue to strive to make him happy, to make his life easier and better in any way I can. However, without getting into too much detail, I am prone to emotional meltdowns (history of anxiety and depression) which result in less-than-rational behaviour and when driven purely by emotion, my behaviour can be rather immature (hence, 'brattish'). His usual response to when I cross boundaries is to say "I am taking you home. I will call you when you and I have calmed down." Whilst time to reflect is always useful, my history means that I take this 'separation period' usually has a detrimental effect, rather than a positive one. I don't do well with isolation or 'time-outs'. Hence, the discussion began regarding a 'punishment', which I suppose could really be termed an alternative. Hopefully, its purpose will be to both snap me out of my 'self destructive' behaviour pattern and to also show compliance and acquiesence to him. I really do appreciate how understanding he is in regards to my behaviour and how willing he is to work with me to imrpove both my behaviour, myself and my service to him. Having successfully overused quotation marks, I'll move on... I have anxiety disorder also so I know about the less than rational bits. May I make a suggestion? Instead of abandoning you, which is how you're taking it emotionally, could he instead hold you until you calm down? Even if you struggle, even if you start to cry, just hold you. No talking, just drag you into his arms and hold you. Because for me this has always worked the best. Beyond that we've been working on finding some of the triggers. If you, like me, tend not to be aware of your body needs, then you have to start paying attention to them. Regular bedtimes, regular meal times, keep water with you and so on. Because it's easier to melt down when you're under physical stress then when you're rested, well nourished and fully hydrated.

HisBestGirl -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (10/31/2009 8:59:09 PM)
Thanks for the advice, I'll certainly suggest to him that we try it :)

WyldHrt -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (11/1/2009 12:22:46 AM)
quote: I have anxiety disorder also so I know about the less than rational bits. May I make a suggestion? Instead of abandoning you, which is how you're taking it emotionally, could he instead hold you until you calm down? Even if you struggle, even if you start to cry, just hold you. No talking, just drag you into his arms and hold you. Spot on, Des. I tend to withdraw (sometimes violently) when I'm upset, and "giving me space" aka leaving me alone, or punishing me for it is about the worst thing he can do.

HisBestGirl -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (11/1/2009 1:24:07 AM)
Des and WyldHrt- I am curious; does your anxiety ever manifest itself in what other people may interpret as irritation, anger, bitchiness, as opposed to the more socially acceptable forms of anxiety, such as panic attacks, difficulty breathing, crying? I experience the more 'common' kinds of reactions as well as some where I am just ridiculously irrational and snap at whoever is at hand; it seems to reach a point where every sound seems magnified and hurts my head, where I cannot think straight and my thoughts are fuzzy and muddled, where I react in anger and frustration rather than being overtly 'sad' or panicked. Do either of you experience anything similar? Thanks x

alittleevil -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (11/1/2009 10:17:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HisBestGirl Des and WyldHrt- I am curious; does your anxiety ever manifest itself in what other people may interpret as irritation, anger, bitchiness,(...) I am just ridiculously irrational and snap at whoever is at hand; it seems to reach a point where every sound seems magnified and hurts my head, where I cannot think straight and my thoughts are fuzzy and muddled, where I react in anger and frustration rather than being overtly 'sad' or panicked. Do either of you experience anything similar? raises hand Peace, aj

DesFIP -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (11/1/2009 10:37:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HisBestGirl Des and WyldHrt- I am curious; does your anxiety ever manifest itself in what other people may interpret as irritation, anger, bitchiness, as opposed to the more socially acceptable forms of anxiety, such as panic attacks, difficulty breathing, crying? I experience the more 'common' kinds of reactions as well as some where I am just ridiculously irrational and snap at whoever is at hand; it seems to reach a point where every sound seems magnified and hurts my head, where I cannot think straight and my thoughts are fuzzy and muddled, where I react in anger and frustration rather than being overtly 'sad' or panicked. Do either of you experience anything similar? Thanks x Of course, it takes a lot more to produce a full blown anxiety attack than it does some bitchiness and short temperedness. And we've discovered that I really need to stay on a steady schedule with food and sleep because when those things are out of whack it's a lot easier for me to lose it either partially or the whole way. So I don't like the idea of someone being punished for having a biochemical disorder. Would you punish someone if their diabetis wasn't responding properly to the medication? Of course not. You might put in a stricter regimen of when to eat, and tighten up on foods they could eat, but you wouldn't punish them for passing out.

Missokyst -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (11/1/2009 11:09:43 AM)
Of course, NO one ever gets raped in a public park, or a school dance, or in a pool hall, that is just silly. [sm=ofcourse.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: devilishpixie It's a public park and there are no gaurantees that she wont slip and fall getting out of the tub and that he would ge to her fast enough.

Roselaure -> RE: Curious as to forms of punishment... (11/1/2009 12:12:45 PM)
To answer the OP, I don't get punished. I fall short and make mistakes and He corrects me, but it's mostly through discussion or a look. Getting to the point of punishment with us would indicate a serious breakdown of communication. He doesn't like brats and I am not one, so we are compatible in that way. As to the whole "Public Park" scenario, I would consider that to be abuse and would not stay in the situation any longer than I had to to get home and out the door. For some, it would be a normal Saturday night, I realize, but it does not blow my skirt up.

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