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lobodomslavery -> Could a sub own a slave? (10/24/2009 2:46:47 PM)

Evening Ladies. What the craic? How have thing s gone for you this week? Any news or scandal? Nope . Maybe not.  Anyway we are havin mighty craic in Dublin. They say the Irish experience is unique, its now being call the "Craic Factor", our gift of the gab ability is seemingly unmatched anywhere else. Well of course there are Irish everywhere, New York, London, Boston, Australia everywhere. Anyway to get to the point, I came across a rather curious profile of a Female submissive wanting to own a slave. I just wonder is this right ? is it possible for a submissive to own a slave?
Go neiri an bothar leat
Kevin




sunshinemiss -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/24/2009 4:28:34 PM)

Hello Kevin,
*what's the craic*   Learned that from a lovely Irish lass I used to teach with.  Fond memories.

As for submissives wanting to own a slave - some women are submissive to ONE man / person and want to have their own slave (who will for some folks be a slave to the M-type.

For some people the understanding of "owning" is the difference between the submissive person and the slavey person.

YMMV,
sunshine




CelticSubM -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/24/2009 4:40:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

...Anyway to get to the point, I came across a rather curious profile of a Female submissive wanting to own a slave. I just wonder is this right ? is it possible for a submissive to own a slave?
Go neiri an bothar leat
Kevin



What's curious about that? Submissive, slave, dominant, etc are reciprocal terms. Someone could be submissive to one person, dominant to another, just as one can be a parent and a child, a producer and a consumer, etc. Of course, that raises the same kind of issues that are inherent in any polyamorous relationship. Many persons obviously would not be comfortable with those complexities, but many would be.




Rule -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/24/2009 4:57:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery
I came across a rather curious profile of a Female submissive wanting to own a slave. I just wonder is this right ? is it possible for a submissive to own a slave?

Yes. In fact in my model of the mind it is psychologically the perfect fit if they are true sub and natural slave. My interpretation of mythology indicates that the sub is the fourth type of master in the journey of the slave. (There are gaps in mythology, though.)




devilishpixie -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/24/2009 5:02:32 PM)

There was a point in my life when i was collared to a man (not Nubian Muscle) and he allowed me to collar a female submissive to me. Although I am submissive to strong dominant men I am very dominant when it comes to other females. So reading that other people have the same dynamic does not really suprise me.




lobodomslavery -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/26/2009 7:24:07 AM)

Thanks everybody. Keep the replies coming. Smile. Its Holiday Monday in the capital of craic
Laughs
Kevin




CalifChick -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/26/2009 9:24:08 AM)

I want a slave for dishes and laundry and housecleaning.  One that is not ME.  I could walk by and whack him every now and then with a cane, if that's what it takes.  No problemo.


Cali




lobodomslavery -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/26/2009 9:30:03 AM)

Each to their own .  Would it not be easier to be a Domme though or more accurately a switch.  But like i say each to their own
Enjoy
Kevin




sappatoti -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/26/2009 12:39:37 PM)

Consider this scenario... a Dominant gives his or her sub a slave so that the slave can handle the mindless tasks that need to get done, freeing up the sub's time so the sub can spend that time attending to his or her Dominant.

Now, if the slave to the sub is a gift from the Dom, does that make the sub a Dom over the slave?




DemonKia -> RE: Could a sub own a slave? (10/26/2009 1:15:27 PM)

Hmmmm, OP, maybe this will help a little in deciphering the world of labels.

To some degree labels are names we select for parts of ourselves. This is more so than that they are names imposed on us from outside, for me.

I've known a number of people over the years who live under a name other than the one they were born with, usually cuz they didn't like the one they were given originally. The polite & respectful thing is to use their preferred name rather than their 'real' one . . .. . Similarly, people who choose to live under a different gender than the more obvious external one get the respect, from me, of calling them the 'he' or 'she' of their choice.

& I try to keep my beliefs about what the chosen tags mean out of the whole thing, cuz those are about me rather than this other person. I try to let the other person teach me what they mean by those names & labels.



Similarly, in the world of BDSM I let people apply the labels to themselves & I mostly just try to learn what that means to them. This has allowed me a richness & depth in seeing how people are kinky that is removes from the archetypes & cliches & stereotypes that are contained in the harshly applied separateness of the labels 'dom', 'sub', 'slave', 'switch', et al. . . . . .



So, maybe, rather than seeing these labels as discrete buckets that everyone must fit into with no overlap, perhaps you can shift your perception to include the idea that labels are merely street signs or landmarks that point one in a general direction, & that those who identify with any label are scattered widely over the geography adjacent . . . . .

Because. Yes, not only can subs own slaves & slaves have subs & etc etc, but that pattern is actually pretty 'normal'. In my experience, yes, actual people practicing this stuff are lots more 'switchy' than all the labels (& porn) might lead one to understand.



One trick is to let go of playing the 'ah ha -- gotcha!' game with people (including yourself) about their self-selected labels. There's something implicitly insulting about the use of 'switch' that goes, oh, so-&-so isn't really D or s, they're a switch . . . . . Just framing stuff that way is full of judgmental stuff that gets in the way of information flow. & as a switch I get offended by the use of 'switch' as some kind of back-handed insult, even when that usage is unconscious on the part of the utterer . . . . ..

& people have every right to label themselves in whatever way they see fit. Much more right than I do to go around deciding what other people's labels should be. (Within a context of people behaving legally, appropriately, etc, etc . . . . )



If ya wanna learn, open up. Release the pre-conceived notions & be open to learning about the innovative & creative ways people apply this stuff to their own warped selves . . .




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