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Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 6:16:46 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		How does one go about toughening up their skin?

Master is a sadist and while I'm  not a painslut I'd like to be able to take what he wishes for me to receive.

The problem is my skin is ultra sensitive and anytime clamps are used on me or a cane or any other type of implement is used on me I want to literally crawl out of my skin and even the strongest bondage be it rope or chains doesn't seem to keep me from hurting either him or me. My reflexes take over and I can't control them. I seem to get superhuman strength.

Is there something anyone can recommend to me that would help with this? I'm not new to bdsm or sadism either. Many years ago I could withstand lots and lots of pain but I haven't been with anyone in ages and now I"m starting all over again and my skin has become progressively thinner over the years due to age, not playing at all, a breast reduction surgery and steroidal lotions.

Please don't recommend that I just play more often. Master and I don't see each other as often as we'd like since we don't live near each other and won't for at least a few more months and I have no desire to play with others casually since I am monogamous and the idea of casual play just leaves me cold.

Any suggestions anyone could give..any at all other than what I mentioned would be greatly appreciated. I hate not being able to at least tolerate more for him. I want for him to be able to partake in his pleasures also without me accidently hitting him or him accidently hitting me somewhere he didn't mean to.
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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 6:23:47 PM   
devilishpixie


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Status: offline 		I can only speak from my personal experience. The more impact play that I did the tougher my skin became, the harder it was "hurt" me to the point where I could not continue. I have not played in almost a yr. and half so I am having to start out slowly and build up my tolerance once more. Be patient with yourself is my only real suggestion.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 7:10:08 PM   
antipode


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quote:

Please don't recommend that I just play more often


Sorry, but there isn't any other way. Be realistic. This is like "My car costs me a fortune in gasoline but please don't suggest I buy a smaller one". C'mon.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 8:51:41 PM   
peppermint


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Status: offline 		I don't think there is anything you can do to make you accept more pain.  There are things your Master can do so that you can handle more pain.  First, he needs to learn to use floggers and canes.  He needs to start lightly with sensation play and slowly build up the endorphins in your system.  For many bottoms this slow build up means that they can take a considerable amount of pain and not feel the pain.  The slow build up could take an hour, more or less.  If my sadistic Dominant whacked me hard with a cane first thing we probably wouldn't be playing cane and floggers games.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 9:03:40 PM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		Yes. Tighter binds.

Seriously.....

I can't *tolerate* much beyond a pitty-patty spanking. If he wants to belt the living daylights out of me , then it's up to him to either tie me down firmly enough to stop me flailing about ......OR use everything he knows about me to have me straddling his lap of my own volition.....or stand, squat, kneel, blah blah.....  and not move. What a good thing it's not left up to me.

I don't QUITE understand the idea of *not being able to tolerate*........Do you mean * not able to make it pleasurable no matter how I try*?

I can't make my skin *tolerate* anything he applies to it.......my mind in in charge of that. And I'm afraid it's a fucking poor friend at  times.


Is your bloke dissatisfied?  Or are you?

Master is a sadist and while I'm  not a painslut I'd like to be able to take what he wishes for me to receive.

You can ..........if he binds you properly.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 9:21:19 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		antipode: That's just simply not an option right now as I stated before. So I'm looking for other ways to toughen my skin..callous it, make it rougher, harder...something, anything to at least make it a little easier.

agirl: What I mean by not tolerate is that I can't make it pleasurable no matter how hard I try because I just want to crawl out of my skin. It just hurts like  hell. I think we're both a little dissatisfied. I would like for him to get his sadistic pleasures and he would like me to be able to at least be able to stay in place without breaking cuffs, ropes and accidently hitting him with a foot or hand or hurting myself in the process from a reflex. It's frustrating knowing that years ago I could take a lot of pain but now I can hardly take any at all.


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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 10:50:09 PM   
Daes


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Status: offline 		I have to echo what devilishpixie already stated. In the past I played often that it always gave me a point where I could try to strive to endure more...

Pain is a very mental thing. It can be hard to remember that, but it is.

Now I find it hard to take as much as I used to and it's very frustrating for me. Once I had a myriad of bruises and welts that had swelled up, and it had Actually hurt to sit down. I don't like a lotta pain so and it takes a bit for me to bruise so that was Very new for me, and afterwards, I liked it. That was also the last time I experienced that sensation..

Perhaps it's the Way he plays with you? Maybe it's the toys? I'm not trying to jump to conlcusions, it's just that.. I've had different reactions playing with different people. I had a play partner Mike, and he always made me so incredibly comfortable that I was always able to push myself further than before, he was also the first person that I experienced any sort of S&M with. I don't know if I could be able to bring myself to that same pain threshold with Sir as I have with play partners in the past - it's been a while.

I tend to thrash. Even struggle. And more than once I've wrestled away. We have to make sure I'm tied appropriately because I have a very difficult time staying still. It's not that I dont /want/ to.. I just move, and at a certain point, I'll get angry. I don't know how to relax sometimes. A lot of times it's the sensation. I don't like it. I like thuddy pain. If it stings, I'll move. I have to be in the right Mood for stingy pain. It's just different. That nice heavy thud from a good heavy flogger is just so... so nice, so relaxing. But that flicky, sharp stingy feeling? Eh... Hate it. Sometimes I want it, most of the time I dont.

What you both Really need to do is take some time to figure out what you enjoy and what you dont, and then build on it Slowly.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 10:52:21 PM   
Acer49


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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

How does one go about toughening up their skin?

Master is a sadist and while I'm  not a painslut I'd like to be able to take what he wishes for me to receive.

The problem is my skin is ultra sensitive and anytime clamps are used on me or a cane or any other type of implement is used on me I want to literally crawl out of my skin and even the strongest bondage be it rope or chains doesn't seem to keep me from hurting either him or me. My reflexes take over and I can't control them. I seem to get superhuman strength.

Is there something anyone can recommend to me that would help with this? I'm not new to bdsm or sadism either. Many years ago I could withstand lots and lots of pain but I haven't been with anyone in ages and now I"m starting all over again and my skin has become progressively thinner over the years due to age, not playing at all, a breast reduction surgery and steroidal lotions.

Please don't recommend that I just play more often. Master and I don't see each other as often as we'd like since we don't live near each other and won't for at least a few more months and I have no desire to play with others casually since I am monogamous and the idea of casual play just leaves me cold.

Any suggestions anyone could give..any at all other than what I mentioned would be greatly appreciated. I hate not being able to at least tolerate more for him. I want for him to be able to partake in his pleasures also without me accidently hitting him or him accidently hitting me somewhere he didn't mean to.


outside of sandpapering your body, which I am sure is not a realistic option, I know of nothing

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/25/2009 11:52:11 PM   
SubOnlyForHim


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Status: offline 		i have the total opposite problem. i don't really need the conditioning. i don't know if i'd be considered a pain slut, but i can take alot and Sir is always way too gentle, afraid Sir will truly hurt me. i just wish sometimes that i could scream and beg for Sir to do it Harder, give me something to remember it by physically. my guess is He would just stop if i did though, he's sadistic like that.

my only advice is time/practice. it's like learning to walk in the gravel barefoot...slip your shoes off one day and take off. you'll be sore for a bit but it'll be easier next time.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/26/2009 12:42:07 AM   
DemonKia


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Self-flagellation? Or variants? Seriously, you're the best judge of your own tactile sensitivity, & you can push it as fast you want, or as slow .. . .. You might not be able to cane yourself, but you certainly can muck about with this quite a bit.

Also, for me (& others), its the coupling of the pain & the erotic, so perhaps (more) sexual stimuli alongside the pain stimuli would help you convert the pain?

&, combining those thoughts, you could explore auto-erotic pain play as part of masturbation?

Some thoughts . . . . . .

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/26/2009 1:38:37 AM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Clamps you can do yourself, depending on the areas.. and most are accessible to our own.  you can also try toughing up th skin, say on the backs of your legs, your bottom, even your back with floggers, canes and switches.  of course you probably wont hit as hard, but, over time, you may be surprised at how much you can achieve.  start with using a cane, even a belt or switch, until it maks you cringe.  then, do it each day, adding five extra strokes.

good luck to you

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/26/2009 6:43:52 AM   
VirginPotty


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Status: offline 		OP, this may sound strange but try masturbating when he whips you if your hands are free. I read about a slave who did that because she couldn't handle the pain of whippings either & she said that it helped her.

**Eta, I perved your profile to find your location & I see you're in the same city/state as one of our regular posters in the "Random Stupidity" thread. Maybe you can have her whip you into shape. She's a Switch so I'm sure she'd be glad to help***

< Message edited by VirginPotty -- 10/26/2009 6:45:09 AM >

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/26/2009 6:47:09 AM   
sirsholly


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Status: offline 		the more of an endorphin release you have, the more pain you will be able to tolerate. Have him start out slow, with a light spanking and gradually work his way up to the serious stuff.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/26/2009 4:17:10 PM   
subinchico


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Status: offline 		With constant abuse, the response is both dermal layers thickin(most texts don't consider hypodermis part integument).  If pin is applied to a specific area then stays, that area gets numb with about 10-20mins of time,,,, like a spike heel in one spot hurts like hell at first,,,, then after some time,,, its amazzing what can be handled. 
It take a lot to remove the free nerve endings(one for pain).
quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

How does one go about toughening up their skin?

Master is a sadist and while I'm  not a painslut I'd like to be able to take what he wishes for me to receive.

The problem is my skin is ultra sensitive and anytime clamps are used on me or a cane or any other type of implement is used on me I want to literally crawl out of my skin and even the strongest bondage be it rope or chains doesn't seem to keep me from hurting either him or me. My reflexes take over and I can't control them. I seem to get superhuman strength.

Is there something anyone can recommend to me that would help with this? I'm not new to bdsm or sadism either. Many years ago I could withstand lots and lots of pain but I haven't been with anyone in ages and now I"m starting all over again and my skin has become progressively thinner over the years due to age, not playing at all, a breast reduction surgery and steroidal lotions.

Please don't recommend that I just play more often. Master and I don't see each other as often as we'd like since we don't live near each other and won't for at least a few more months and I have no desire to play with others casually since I am monogamous and the idea of casual play just leaves me cold.

Any suggestions anyone could give..any at all other than what I mentioned would be greatly appreciated. I hate not being able to at least tolerate more for him. I want for him to be able to partake in his pleasures also without me accidently hitting him or him accidently hitting me somewhere he didn't mean to.


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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/26/2009 5:49:43 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		Thanks everyone for your answers. I will take them into consideration and see what happens. It is appreciated.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/28/2009 7:52:19 PM   
Passion8Kisser


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Status: offline 		You mentioned a few things.. you said that you are older than you used to be, would a vitamin regime help? You also said that you had taken steriods you thought might have basically weakened your skin. Again would some kind of vitamin help?

Are you more sensitive to touch in general or just less tolerant of pain?

Just some thoughts, I've no experience in this matter. I am a masochist I get off on the idea of pain. . . well certain kinds of pain anyway. Also my experience in recieving spanking pain is limited to a nice hairbrushing session, soon to change that though.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/28/2009 8:07:21 PM   
aphotic


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Status: offline 		Just throwing this out there, but have you seen Silence of the Lambs? A second skin suit might not be a terrible idea if you're having issues with your current epidermal tolerance level. The whole serial killer part is difficult to work out at first, but there are plenty of people that want to die anyway.

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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/28/2009 8:39:36 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		*Keep well hydrated by drinking plenty of water on a daily basis
*Use moisturizer and, when going outside, use sun screen to keep your skin supple and elastic.
*If you smoke, quit
*Eat a balanced diet and include foods which help produce collagen (strawberries, broccoli, blueberries etc. You can google others)
*Exercise
*Take a Lamaze class to learn how to breath through pain. Also, breath deeply during play to increase the oxygen getting into your blood stream and help to reduce the pain you are experiencing.

*If you are breaking leads, use chains instead. Use hospital restraints with mesh instead of hard leather cuffs .. they give more so are harder to break through and they are much tougher than they look and designed to hold against extreme effort.

Hope some of this helps!



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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/28/2009 9:17:30 PM   
Kana


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RE: Toughening up skin - 10/28/2009 10:04:41 PM   
porcelaine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: aphotic

Just throwing this out there, but have you seen Silence of the Lambs? A second skin suit might not be a terrible idea if you're having issues with your current epidermal tolerance level. The whole serial killer part is difficult to work out at first, but there are plenty of people that want to die anyway.


*cracks up* you are so demented. that's gotta be a 12+ at least!

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