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whtUwant -> slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 1:08:37 AM)
i am curious as to how other slaves ,follow all orders, when your life offline conficts with those orders?, i am lucky to have a smart and kind Master, but i wonder how others deal.

SubOnlyForHim -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 1:25:45 AM)
Is your relationship online only? My Master and i live 10 minutes apart and connect in real-time. W/we both have other things going on in O/our lives and to be compatible, W/we must RESPECT that on both ends of the kneel. Sir must also know what these other things ARE, so that Sir does not order this one to do something that will conflict.

LadyPact -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 2:12:42 AM)
With clip being half a world away, I get asked these kinds of things a lot. How do you control him when he's not physically with you? How do you maintain things like full disclosure when he's not in the situation to be allowed to tell you everything due to circumstances? How does he follow your orders when all of the orders about eating, sleeping, what he wears are dictated by Mistress Military? The answer is pretty simple. It comes in two parts. Number one, I don't sweat the small stuff. Number two, I can't expect the boy to give Me control in areas where he has none to give. If the choice was his about what to wear in the morning or what time he got to go to bed rather than be up late for guard duty, then yes, I'd have control over those areas. In the grand scheme of life, these are really trivial things. They are fun to play with, but there's something a little more important going on right now that makes such things take a back seat. The greater good comes from him following what he has to do there until he comes back to the states. Sure, I could give him illogical commands where he would be put in a place of having to choose between disobeying what he was told or obeying the command that would be to his detriment. I don't because there's no sense in it. Not only would it have a negative impact on him, but there's really no benefit to Me. If I put him in a losing position to start, I don't see how that makes My life easier. It's just a matter of being practical. Having power over someone isn't always about proving that you have it. The responsibility that comes from having it should play a part in how it's exercised.

whtUwant -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 2:55:30 AM)
as i said i was curious how people handled there situations, having to hold a relationship online can be tricky , i am lucky my Master is smart and understanding, but i see how this could present problems for some people.

littlewonder -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 3:26:09 AM)
I talk to him and let him know what's going on or why I couldn't do something. We work it out.

DarkSteven -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 5:33:37 AM)
Being a Master means he is in control of your life. Being a good Master means that he understands that you do have other things going on in your life, and allows for them and influences them in a positive manner. For example, I once made a sub who was in college quit behaviors that were not conducive to her studying. If a Master gives orders that conflict with other life events, either he has determined to influence those events for his slave's betterment, or else he's not a Master.

Acer49 -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 6:01:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whtUwant i am curious as to how other slaves ,follow all orders, when your life offline conficts with those orders?, i am lucky to have a smart and kind Master, but i wonder how others deal. I can only speak of my experiences. Before making an order, I consider all possible would be conflicts, If at some point I error in my judgement, I expect her to use her common and sense. 99.9% of the time, this will give her the proper answer to the conflict.

LaTigresse -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 6:46:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whtUwant as i said i was curious how people handled there situations, having to hold a relationship online can be tricky , i am lucky my Master is smart and understanding, but i see how this could present problems for some people. I don't have online only slaves. It seems utterly ridiculous to me.

DesFIP -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 7:29:23 AM)
Back when we were LDR, this did occasionally happen. I simply did what I had to do for real life and emailed him whenever I could to tell him of the conflict. There was no way I was going to escort a school hiking trip in the short skirt and heels he had picked for me to wear that day.

leadership527 -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 8:35:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whtUwant i am curious as to how other slaves ,follow all orders, when your life offline conficts with those orders?, i am lucky to have a smart and kind Master, but i wonder how others deal. What's to work out? My computer is dumb as a brick and does exactly what I tell it to. Carol, happily, is much smarter and so she does what I wanted her to do. Carol and I live together in a tiny little cottage, but we are not joined at the hip. If I give her some command which conflicts with common sense or what she knows about my desires and I'm not around to clarify, she exercises her judgement. Later on, if I disagree with her judgement, we talk it through so next time she can do it better.

Domitianus -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 10:31:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I can't expect the boy to give Me control in areas where he has none to give. ... Having power over someone isn't always about proving that you have it. The responsibility that comes from having it should play a part in how it's exercised. In this wisdom lies the answer...control can only be given if one has the power to give it. Ordering the sub to follow orders that conflict with areas in which the sub has no authority or control to give is a sure path to unhealthy frustration. Submission is about the granting of control over oneself...and control that doesn't exist cannot be granted, regardless of what that constraint may be. That's why communication and understanding on both sides is so important...to determine where that line truly is, as opposed to where the either party might like it to be.

CreativeDominant -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 1:32:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whtUwant i am curious as to how other slaves ,follow all orders, when your life offline conficts with those orders?, i am lucky to have a smart and kind Master, but i wonder how others deal. I'm not a slave, nor do I play one on T.V.. I am a dominant and I've done L.D.R.s wherein I gave orders. However, none of these relationships were online only. I saw them every 4-5 months, just as I had with my vanilla girlfriends. Because of service and college obligations, I learned in my young adult years what was important to the relationship and what wasn't, what helped to keep each relationship together and what didn't. The L.D.R. I've had with submissives has taught me what mattered within the D/s dynamic I shared with them in terms of yielding of control and those areas not yielded because of outside factors OR distance. Personally...an online only relationship in which I knew I was never going to see someone would not be one I would enter into with any sort of serious nature about it...I might do it for friendship and the exchange of ideas but not for a D/s dynamic.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/26/2009 1:35:29 PM)
And here I was thinking you are slave to my charms, I'm crushed CD [&o]

CreativeDominant -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/27/2009 7:06:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth And here I was thinking you are slave to my charms, I'm crushed CD [&o] NO, no, no...you are slave to MY charms. Remember the posts in H & P about hypnosis...ahem... Look into My eyes, zeph...[:-]...deeeeeeeeeeeeep into My eyes

LPslittleclip -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/27/2009 7:27:02 AM)
as my mistress said i cant always be in a position to follow some orders due to my military deployment, but She is kind and understands this and acts accordingly. in turn i give what info i can and follow commands as best i can while apart. i trust fully in my Mistress and love her deeply this deployment will end and O/our poly family will be together again.

chiaThePet -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/27/2009 7:29:37 AM)
The first rule about offline club is, we don't talk about offline club. Second rule, sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken. chia* (the pet)

abuddingdom -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/27/2009 8:26:38 AM)
lol, chia, gotta love offline club. Tell Tyler I said hello, please....... LadyPact's reply is about as direct&succinct an answer the op can get to her question. Common sense, decency, maturity, not thinking they're God almighty or needing to be treated as such, all the things others have said above - a moral&ethical D or M type should have learned the value&importance of these things before they've evolved to trying to D or M another.

zephyroftheNorth -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/27/2009 8:34:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth And here I was thinking you are slave to my charms, I'm crushed CD [&o] NO, no, no...you are slave to MY charms. Remember the posts in H & P about hypnosis...ahem... Look into My eyes, zeph...[:-]...deeeeeeeeeeeeep into My eyes You know CD I had a feeling I had that bass ackwards. I'm going to try to keep that in mind while I snicker- errr fall under your control.

beltainefaerie -> RE: slave following orders verses life offline (10/27/2009 11:34:31 AM)
While I don't do "online slavery" I can kind of answer your question, since I don't live with my Master. In our relationship, he knows that I will do everything within my power to obey. He knows that taking care of my son and the needs my other loves must also be considered. He has never given me an order that would conflict with their needs or, when I was working, my job. Therefore, his orders don't conflict with my other duties. If I were to forget an order of willfully ignore it, I would be punished (though the willfully ignoring I can't imagine and I doubt forgetting will be happening anytime soon as I was punished, severely but appropriately, for my forgetfulness last time) Would he absolutely know if I did not do something and he was not present? I suppose he would not, but I would. What makes these relationships work is trust, not illusions, so he trusts me to do as I am told and I actually tell him when I screw up. Even if you live with your Master all the time, there must be some time when he isn't present. Do you decide to disobey just because he can't see? If the answer to that is yes then I don't think anything more than role playing is going on. To submit to the dominant's will requires devotion, not physical presence. Also, I think if he gave me an order that conflicted with something my Love asked me to do, I would inform him of the conflict and let him either make some change in the direction or speak with my Love regarding the conflict.

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