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Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 1:13:01 PM   
dixiedumpling


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Status: offline 		Perhaps this belongs in the humor section, but maybe it will spark discussion... I found it repulsive, not humorous. Have a look:

http://www.themq.com/index.php?articleid=158&issue=105

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 1:35:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is so dangerous!! And, it doesn't even look good. Eessh.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 3:30:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sweetpleaser
And, it doesn't even look good. Eessh.



I gotta agree that it's not a particularly attractive piercing, from my p.o.v. I think I'll stick to genital piercings - MUCH prettier!

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 3:41:01 PM   
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quote:

Perhaps this belongs in the humor section, but maybe it will spark discussion... I found it repulsive, not humorous.


Obviously you people aren't from Los Angeles? No matter where you go out here you see kids who look like that. Try and have a discussion with them once and not look at their eyelid piercing.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 4:01:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with sub4hire. You do see alot of this stuff here. Maybe not quite that extreme, but close. I have never been a fan of facial piercings. I plan on getting my slave pierced, but not on her face. It kind of ruins the effect of a pretty face.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 4:23:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ummm, you do realize that's not a real piercing, right?

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 5:16:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think they might actually believe the culture would succumb to a lobotomy piercing.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 6:05:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		This particular story may be a spoof, but I saw this guy on a talk show several years ago who had had a threaded bolt surgerically implanted in his skull. He could then screw all manner of 'decorative' items on to it. Weird. And I do think facial piercings pretty much fall into either the ugly category or the distracting category. They call it self expression, but I haven't yet reached the level of open mindedness that allows me not to notice and not to stare at such adornments. They may be common in California, but tongue studs are still unusual in Mississippi.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 8/31/2004 8:42:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm skeptical about the individual who had a bolt implanted in his skull. You might be referring to Joe Aylward's "metal mohawk". He had an appearance on the 'Jenny Jones' show in 1997 and you might have seen him there.

Nothing was implanted into his skull. A small internally threaded post (in the shape of an inverted 'T') is placed under the skin but not affixed to the skull. After the small implant heals, you can then screw on the decorative items you saw.

Introducing a foriegn object into the skull would be a *bad* idea.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 7:01:30 AM   
MistressDREAD


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Status: offline 		History tells us that this instinct to
self-decorate is a similarity that we
all share as human beings.
Well I for one think this is very beautiful.
I think that peircing for Me has always
been a art, and a ritual that I absolutly
adore. I think its a vision of Masculinity
as well as an adornment of Beauty.
Of course I am from a Decent that
accepts such practice as the norm
and tribalism and traditional
culture of this practice goes back
thousands of years and is nothing new,
and many of Us see it as more then a eye
catcher.
Yesssss its primitive and looked down at
by the Idustrial Worlds Socieities BUT
for sum of Us its wearing and meanings
and useage goes far deeper then a simple
fashion statement and can mean anything
from having family trees that include rulers
and royal blood lines to becomming an adult
depending on the culture its worn or even has
religious significance. Even Abraham in the bible
had His sons Isaac wifes nose peirced and
gave her a shanf.
JMO
http://www.rambles.net/camphausen_tribal.html
http://www.onetribe.com.au/aftercare/lip%20and%20labret.htm
http://www.pretty-piercing.com/
http://www.mythome.org/ojlucas.html
http://www.modernamerican.com/observer_article.html
http://www2.univ-reunion.fr/~ageof/text/74c21e88-266.html
http://www.painfulpleasures.com/piercing_history.htm

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 7:09:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I figured that out AFTER I posted But I wouldn't put it past one of the young crowd to try something like that. It made it kinda believable.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 12:59:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I keep wondering what the younger generation sees when they look in the mirror that makes them think they are ugly???? One that had a very infected piercing told me well you have to make yourself pretty when your born ugly. A very limited piercings can help hold a very unique pieces of jewelry in place. But piercings to the trunk of the body (naval) are dangerous. I would rather like me as I am than risk disfigurement or death. Of course this is my personal opinion. I happen to think the naked body without adornment is beautiful just as it is. Sundew

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 1:28:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nonsense. A navel piercing is no more dangerous than an ear piercing.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 2:55:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		So when you get your daughters ears pierced it's because she thinks she's ugly then, right? Gah! Disinformation like that is really disturbing.

I just always find it so amazing when people in a subculture themselves are just as ignorant to other cultures as they complain others are about them.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 11:33:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		sfgrrl, Your ears do not have access to your abdominal or cardio cavities. Nonsense all you like. IF you are interested you can go to the medical sites and see that there is a vast difference. Peritonitis can occur with a naval piercing also pericarditis which can lead to heart problems. Sundew

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/1/2004 11:39:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		afmvdp, I did not say that was how I felt, but what a young adult told ME. Myself I find that some body modification makes people feel good, so go for it. I do worry about piercings in areas that have possible serious health risks. And of course this is my personal opinion, heck if it makes you happy pierce your big toe, which btw is NOT a serious health risk. Oh, and I do not feel that all of any group is formed by a particular traumatic event in their life. But if you say NONE are here d/t trauma as a child, then I would disagree with that. Have a wonderful day. Sundew

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/2/2004 7:33:41 AM   
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sfgrrl, Your ears do not have access to your abdominal or cardio cavities. Nonsense all you like.

True, your ears just have access to that lump of tissue called a brain.

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IF you are interested you can go to the medical sites and see that there is a vast difference. Peritonitis can occur with a naval piercing also pericarditis which can lead to heart problems.

Such an infection would have to be massive and is highly unlikely to ever occur in someone without a comprised immune system. The likelyhood is probably on par with getting a cerebral abcess from an ear piercing. Of course the chance exists, but it's a minute chance at best.

Do you know of any cases where a navel (not naval, there are no ships involved here) piercing has led to peritonitis or any infection in the thoracic cavity? I came up empty on MEDLINE. Perhaps you have access to more expansive 'medical sites?'

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/2/2004 8:58:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I got my information from my peircer, so I can't site it other than to say "he's been doing this for 15 years and has seen quite a bit."

Ear peircings are relativly non-dangerous, as they don't have access to any big bodily stuff. Sure they're near the brain, but there aren't any connections that lead from ear to brain (ie big nerves/blood vessels that go straight from bit to bit) Your biggest risk with ear peircing is that if done with a peircing gun it can split the upper ear cartilage leaving your ear floppy and weird.

I thought, at one time, about getting a navel peircing. Decided against it for aesthetic reasons. However my peircer said the same thing that Sundew said. He emphasized that it is quite rare, and generally only happens with an inexperienced peircer, but said that he -has- seen cases of infection that spread and developed into peritonis. Don't know about the other one, he didn't mention it. He also mentioned that if the peircing scars heavily or migrates it can create problems during pregancy-ie the scar won't stretch properly and must be surgically removed to avoid ripping as the stomach expands.

This is neither here nor there, as I love body peircings and plan to do what I like (and my partner agrees on) to myself. Still, I trust my peircer, and this was the information he gave me. Thought I'd put it out there

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/2/2004 9:03:59 AM   
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Ask any professional piercer, and You will be informed that navel piercings are at the top of piercings Re: Infections. Its widely accepted that navels are one of the most prone to infection. My friend had her navel area pierced and ended up in hospital even with the aftercare she uses religiously... because the area became infected and she is a professional 'piercerette' and its the only infected one she has ever had(and believe me she has had LOADS)...lol.

But saying that, i love piercings. I have only a nose piercing, but my wonderful, handsome husband has ear and facial piercings. From a personal view I find that they enhance and find them incredibly attractive. Some people have them to be different, some to stand out... others because they love them, or because they have a piercing fetish, and others because it is sexually enhancing. Its not unusual in the UK at all to find people with piercings of one sort or another, although it is illegal here to pierce youngsters without parental permission.

Stare if you want, but IMO its a beautiful art with links from our pasts that enhance our futures.

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RE: Not a slow news day. - 9/2/2004 10:35:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Teen Contracts Life-Threatening Heart Infection After Navel Piercing 3/29/03. http://www.faqs.org/faqs/bodyart/piercing-faq/jewelry/partD

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