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growing up too soon? - 10/26/2009 10:51:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know why but this photo made me feel sad.  I can remember as a kid loving to wear my mum's oveersized high heels and clomping around the house feeling very special and grown up....but they make heels for kids now????  Damn I am getting old.

hmmmm I deleted the photo as I suddenly thought it may be against TOS as it shows Suri Cruise wearing heeled shoes when out shopping for halloween



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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 3:39:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		That is too young. High heels are a turn on, worn on adult women. Let the kids be kids, for God's sake.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 3:42:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		High heels for kids are honestly nothing new. The reality is as a society americans have forced our children to grow up faster. Look at childrens clothes, how many young girls in grammar school were make up or have to wear brand names. But more than a physical thing, our children biologically are growing up faster each year. Scary really.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 3:50:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		High heels that are closer in fit come in boxes of dress up clothes. Also at Halloween they appear to be worn with princess outfits. Considering the one's this child is wearing are glittery, I'm betting they're a Halloween special. But they have to fit for trick or treating. Kids would get hurt wearing their mother's shoes while walking/running door to door.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 4:13:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		There are lots of things out there that are *unsuitable* for children and as I'm in charge and am the one with the purse strings, mine don't get them.........even if they want them , even if every one of their friends has them. I've found that children are astonishingly reasonable if you have jolly good reasons for your decisions.

I suppose I disagree with the idea that society *forces* children to grow up faster.......children are under the juristiction of their parents and we have them for far more of the time than anyone else in any meaningful way, and have far more influence over them. Half of the time I think parents actually *teach* their children that they have less influence, by not actually exercising it.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 4:26:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know at first i saw the pic of her in her little pink shirt and really cute white skirt and thought it may be a one off, but then i saw her in another picture wearing a pink dress with the same heels.  Then another picture of her in a red dress wearing gold high heels and then the same gold heels as part of a halloween costume.  So it doesn't seem to be a one off concept.

I just can't see how this can be good -- not regarding sexy as many people are talking about in the articles -- but for her learning to walk correctly -- i mean at that age she is still learning to walk correctly, posture etc.   The article with her pink shirt and white skirt states she switched to tennis shoes at some point so either she says enough when her feet hurt or katy or the nannies set down rules like okay you can wear them for 30 minutes etc while out.  I hope these are few and far between instances because i don't believe it would be good for a child to get "used" to wearing heels at such young age for the simple fact it could harm her learning to walk correctly.  All in all, from what the articles are saying these types of shoes are being sold for toddlers etc, so i presume Suri Cruise is not the only child out there wearing high heels while out doing every day errands.  Unfortunately, because of her mom and dad, Suri is the one who gets talked about by the media etc.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 4:49:38 AM   
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There are lots of things out there that are *unsuitable* for children and as I'm in charge and am the one with the purse strings, mine don't get them.........even if they want them , even if every one of their friends has them. I've found that children are astonishingly reasonable if you have jolly good reasons for your decisions.

I suppose I disagree with the idea that society *forces* children to grow up faster.......children are under the juristiction of their parents and we have them for far more of the time than anyone else in any meaningful way, and have far more influence over them. Half of the time I think parents actually *teach* their children that they have less influence, by not actually exercising it.

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You don't always have a choice though. When mine was in 8th grade, the school rule was no shorts that are shorter than your fingertips. Sensible rule, right?
Wrong because there were no shorts available in the stores that long. Not even JC Penney. We did the entire mall, and there were no junior sizes with appropriate shorts. Which meant that she cut off a couple of pairs of badly worn barn jeans and otherwise wore capris in 100 degree weather.

If I had thought it over, I would have bought her boys shorts and sewn up the fly but that didn't occur to me in time. But who sells school clothes that are forbidden at every school I know?

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 6:56:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

There are lots of things out there that are *unsuitable* for children and as I'm in charge and am the one with the purse strings, mine don't get them.........even if they want them , even if every one of their friends has them. I've found that children are astonishingly reasonable if you have jolly good reasons for your decisions.

I suppose I disagree with the idea that society *forces* children to grow up faster.......children are under the juristiction of their parents and we have them for far more of the time than anyone else in any meaningful way, and have far more influence over them. Half of the time I think parents actually *teach* their children that they have less influence, by not actually exercising it.

agirl


You don't always have a choice though. When mine was in 8th grade, the school rule was no shorts that are shorter than your fingertips. Sensible rule, right?
Wrong because there were no shorts available in the stores that long. Not even JC Penney. We did the entire mall, and there were no junior sizes with appropriate shorts. Which meant that she cut off a couple of pairs of badly worn barn jeans and otherwise wore capris in 100 degree weather.

If I had thought it over, I would have bought her boys shorts and sewn up the fly but that didn't occur to me in time. But who sells school clothes that are forbidden at every school I know?


I think that's a bit different really. You were trying to comply with the sensible school rule and found it awkward.  It's not as if you let her cut her jeans off to*micro* shorts level. It's a bit different in the UK , as most schools have a uniform and you just go to the supplier of the school's uniform.

As barelynangel mentioned above, it's not the shoes I would object to per se, but the fact they aren't *good* for developing spinal posture or leg muscles. Fine for wobbling about in at her best friends party next door, fine for highdays and holidays. Every family tends to have an age where they pass those decisions over to the child themselves and if they choose to teeter about in high heels all the time , on their own head be it. My daughter wore them to clubs when she got old enough to choose for herself and always ended up barefoot after an hour or so.....and her chosen heel height got lower and lower....lol

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 7:49:52 AM   
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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 8:14:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: subtlebutterfly

I think, according to Scientology UMs are to be treated as adults..and therefore made to be dressed that way to.



High heels are just a preference , not a sign of adulthood.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 9:43:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine decided at age three the only shoes she would wear were jellies. I just carried her in and out of the car because it was easier than fighting to put on boots when it was raining or snowy. She finally wanted to play in the snow, then she agreed to socks and boots. But kids want to choose their own clothing, it's the ability to make a choice that allows you some control over your own life. And I agree with that.

Although one year I just sent a note to the teacher saying "Don't blame me for her clothing choices". They really were that bad! 

You can't wear high heels on slides or while running or any such thing. So I'm sure the kid will take them off soon enough.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 11:08:20 AM   
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Mine decided at age three the only shoes she would wear were jellies. I just carried her in and out of the car because it was easier than fighting to put on boots when it was raining or snowy. She finally wanted to play in the snow, then she agreed to socks and boots. But kids want to choose their own clothing, it's the ability to make a choice that allows you some control over your own life. And I agree with that.

Although one year I just sent a note to the teacher saying "Don't blame me for her clothing choices". They really were that bad! 

You can't wear high heels on slides or while running or any such thing. So I'm sure the kid will take them off soon enough.


I totally agree about the choice thing.  I've got lovely memories (and sneaky photographs) of some of their *choices*. Son No3 spent all of his time with the girl next door where we lived on a farm, and he used to run around in her pink frilly bathing costumes and wellington boots in the summer. He also sent a lot of time playing with Barbie dolls and wished for, and got, Barbie's Walking Horse and Gymnast Barbie one year for Xmas when he was about 4yrs old....lol

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 11:10:19 AM   
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You can't wear high heels on slides or while running or any such thing. So I'm sure the kid will take them off soon enough.

IF they know how to be one.


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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 11:10:42 AM   
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Mine decided at age three the only shoes she would wear were jellies. I just carried her in and out of the car because it was easier than fighting to put on boots when it was raining or snowy. She finally wanted to play in the snow, then she agreed to socks and boots. But kids want to choose their own clothing, it's the ability to make a choice that allows you some control over your own life. And I agree with that.

Although one year I just sent a note to the teacher saying "Don't blame me for her clothing choices". They really were that bad! 

You can't wear high heels on slides or while running or any such thing. So I'm sure the kid will take them off soon enough.



AW GAWD!!!!!!!!! Fuckin' Jellies......

made me wanna vicegrip the privates of every fuckin marketing hack in the world...........
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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 1:23:36 PM   
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IF they know how to be one.



The parents can't win. If the kid gets photographed all dressed up, people rail about how much money they spend on children's clothing. Or how it is inappropriate.

But if the kid gets photographed making mud pies, the tabloids will be full of stories about how she's being neglected. 

They can't stop a photographer on the street, but that doesn't mean they invite the press to camp out in the backyard and see the kid run naked through a sprinkler.

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RE: growing up too soon? - 10/27/2009 1:32:57 PM   
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AW GAWD!!!!!!!!! Fuckin' Jellies......

made me wanna vicegrip the privates of every fuckin marketing hack in the world...........
Ron

Yeah. I feel the same way about crocs I love the site this clip comes from:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cqs23m0du0U

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