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Lman -> wax play (10/27/2009 10:03:45 AM)

What type of candles are best for this? Has anyone used Salon parfin wax heated in a crock pot? Does it get too hot?




mnottertail -> RE: wax play (10/27/2009 10:07:06 AM)

until you know what you are doing, only the uncolored ones, and the parafin blocks you can get at the grocery store are fine, take it slow, try it on yourself, figure your height, and in time you can just dump the bucket of redwax on her.........MWAHHHHHHHHH





Hierodule -> RE: wax play (10/27/2009 10:17:49 AM)

i have only done wax play once. He started with white and moved to red. I could feel the difference even though I was blindfolded!! Is red the hottest? Also I tried it out on myself afterward and found that the wax from my fat candles didn't burn as much as the tapers he used. Could it be I was just more prepared for it because I was doing it to myself and not blindfolded? Or could it be that the more space the wax has to pool up the farther it gets from the wick so the more it cools down?




daintydimples -> RE: wax play (10/27/2009 10:40:49 AM)

Different wax burns at different temperatures, with paraffin being the hottest, soy being the lowest, and beeswax in between.  This temperature can and does vary wildly depending on what additives are used (dye and scent are additives that will effect that). Which is why the safest candles are the safety candles you can buy at the drugs store in case of emergency - either that or the religious candles in the tall glass containers. These are cheap candles with no additives.

I have heard of people burning blocks of paraffin in a crock pot, which should be fine though I'd suggest using a thermometer to check temp. I also wouldn't use the crock pot for food after that.




LadyPact -> RE: wax play (10/27/2009 11:41:37 AM)

You can absolutely use a crock pot, though the ones specifically designed for melting wax are better.  If you don't want to make that kind of an investment, at least get a crock pot with various temperature settings, rather than just high and low.

The drawback to the pot is that you only get to use one color.  Personally, I like different colors not only for the difference in temperature, but for the different things you can do.  Using jars, you can paint on any design that you like and be somewhat artistic.  I also like votive candles for the dripping wax sensation.




allthatjaz -> RE: wax play (10/28/2009 3:21:13 AM)


The sort of wax candles you are going to find in your high street shops are
Beeswax,Paraffin wax,Soy bean wax,Crystallizing wax, Gel wax

All these waxes have a higher or lower melting point and some contain other additives that can burn. Most candles wont have a recipe of ingredients on the package and so its very much trial and error when it comes to purchasing the correct ones


Paraffin for example has a melting point between 130-150 degrees fahrenheit and you should be looking at the lower end.
Paraffin candles tend to be the cheap candles you buy in most hardware shops. If they have been molded into fancy shapes then they will have a higher melting point and so keep in mind that your wanting cheap, plain and simple paraffin candles.
Stay away from taper candles as they melt at around 160 degrees fahrenheit.
Beeswax has a higher melting point of around 150 degrees fahrenheit and so not suitable
Soy bean comes from the oil of the soy bean and is a soft wax that normally comes in containers. In its natural state it has a melting point of around 130 degrees fahrenheit but when manufactured it often has other additives added that will heighten the melting point.
You can make pure soy bean candles but leave out the fragrances.
http://www.soya.be/soy-candle-making.php.
Gel Wax has a melting point of 94 to 104 degrees Celsius. Will not set as a wax and so not suitable for wax play.
Crystalizing wax has a high melting point as well as many additives and so again not suitable for wax play.

Stay away from fancy candles, sparkly candles which often contain glass and metal and plastics.

Colored candles

Although there are many web sites that repeat the same advice that color additives make candles burn hotter, actual experiments performed by two different researchers show that this is usually not the case.
Whenever I make my own candles or melt wax in a crock pot I add color with Crayola crayons. Crayola crayons have a very low melting point and are made from plant extract which is safe on a child's skin.

Always keep in mind that hot wax can cause serious burns and remember that some people can tolerate higher temperatures than others. Different parts of the body will tolerate more heat than other parts. For every meter you drop, the wax will lose about 5% of its heat but I would always advise that before trying it on someone else, try it on the inner side of your own forearm.






weaselwelder -> RE: wax play (10/28/2009 10:45:54 AM)

My experience has been that tea lights, those little ones that come in little tin cups, are the coolest burning candle readily available, with the following in ascending order of temp: votive, pillar, dipped taper, molded taper, colored and/or scented. Your mileage may vary.

Whenever I'm doing wax with a new candle, I'll hit the inside of my wrist with a couple of drops or dip a finger in to check temp before I start in on my sub.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: wax play (10/29/2009 3:06:54 AM)

there was a wax play class I wanted to take really badly once, but shitty luck made us miss it and I've never seen it offered again,

We did wax play at home and I absolutely hated the burning wax dripping on me, it was more painful than I expected but maybe that was because it was on my tummy, and yeah we used the right kind an had them the right distance away, but I'd be open to learning about it an trying it again later.




allthatjaz -> RE: wax play (10/29/2009 4:18:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

there was a wax play class I wanted to take really badly once, but shitty luck made us miss it and I've never seen it offered again,

We did wax play at home and I absolutely hated the burning wax dripping on me, it was more painful than I expected but maybe that was because it was on my tummy, and yeah we used the right kind an had them the right distance away, but I'd be open to learning about it an trying it again later.



I run wax workshops in the UK but that's no good to you [&:]
You sound like me in that you have a very low heat tolerance and you may need to lower the temperature with something like soy-bean wax or lanolin wax. Lanolin massages beautifully into the skin and makes a great lubricant.
Remember that skin that has seen the sun is tougher than skin that hasn't and accumulation of wax over one area will continue to build up heat.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: wax play (10/29/2009 4:55:13 PM)

Or maybe I need it brushed on not dropped,  We put baby oil on first rubbed it in real well and then did the dropps and I think we even did my ass.


all very good information you give:)
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ORIGINAL: allthatjaz


quote:

ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

there was a wax play class I wanted to take really badly once, but shitty luck made us miss it and I've never seen it offered again,

We did wax play at home and I absolutely hated the burning wax dripping on me, it was more painful than I expected but maybe that was because it was on my tummy, and yeah we used the right kind an had them the right distance away, but I'd be open to learning about it an trying it again later.



I run wax workshops in the UK but that's no good to you [&:]
You sound like me in that you have a very low heat tolerance and you may need to lower the temperature with something like soy-bean wax or lanolin wax. Lanolin massages beautifully into the skin and makes a great lubricant.
Remember that skin that has seen the sun is tougher than skin that hasn't and accumulation of wax over one area will continue to build up heat.





allthatjaz -> RE: wax play (10/30/2009 11:37:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Or maybe I need it brushed on not dropped,  We put baby oil on first rubbed it in real well and then did the dropps and I think we even did my ass.


all very good information you give:)


Brushing wax is my favorite way of doing wax play and it certainly feels very different to dripping wax. If your going to do this you need natural hair brushes and not nylon ones and you need to use lanolin wax because the other wax will just set hard before it ever gets to your skin and you end up with no wax on you and a ruined brush.
Another thing I love which is more erotic than wax is warmed oil brushed onto the skin. Baby oil would burn you very easily though so you need something like grape seed oil mixed with a few drops of skin friendly incense oil. I heat it up in one of those little incense burners (just make sure it doesn't get too hot)





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