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Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 12:31:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lot of it makes sense; get up and make a difference, US still has some dose of democracy left.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikes-letter/michael-moores-action-plan-15-things-every-american-can-do-right-now#at
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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 2:44:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of the last 5 things make sense, especially the part about credit cards and taking care of your family.  I'm not sure unionizing is always a great thing though.  Unions were essential at one time and still are in some industries, but they often turn out to be just as corrupt as the businesses themselves.  Still, they are often a good idea.

Most of the rest of the list is just typical Michael Moore fearmongering.  There are a few points here and there that sound good but overall there's not a lot of substance there.  I nearly laughed when I read people did the impossible getting Obama elected.  Where was Moore then?  Obama was a shoe-in. 

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 3:00:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be fair, I have heard Moore's (godawful) Farenheit 9/11 cited as one of the reasons that Kerry lost in 2004, so maybe Moore thought he'd better keep a low profile during the last election in case he managed to queer Obama's pitch as well?

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 3:34:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally, I do not favor the first proposal. It would be  wrong to  keep people in homes they can not afford. They should rent.
Labor issue is more complex. The problem is that with outsourcing, high unemployment and so called "service economy"  (where
many work part time low skilled work positions)  the labor unionized or not has lost its traditional bargaining power. In US consumer driven economy it is a major question how to enable lower classes to make income. Job-loss recovery some are talking about is a pure fiction. Otherwise, the consumer should attempt to bypass and restrain the corporate monopoly and arrogance. 

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 8:07:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Michael Moore has made approximately 150 million on his films. Could he have done the same thing in Cuba ? I really doubt it. If this Country is that bad, why doesn't he just move ?

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 10:20:17 PM   
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Obama was a shoe-in. 


Really?  I remember hearing the same thing about McCain when he was ahead in the polls.

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 10:23:49 PM   
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Michael Moore has made approximately 150 million on his films. Could he have done the same thing in Cuba ? I really doubt it. If this Country is that bad, why doesn't he just move ?


Goddamn right.

This here is America goddamnit, love it or leave.

We need to ship all these socialist, commie pinkos straight the hell to Cuba.

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/27/2009 10:51:21 PM   
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Michael Moore has made approximately 150 million on his films. Could he have done the same thing in Cuba ? I really doubt it. If this Country is that bad, why doesn't he just move ?


Goddamn right.

This here is America goddamnit, love it or leave.

We need to ship all these socialist, commie pinkos straight the hell to Cuba.



Them elitists can go sip their champagne in Europe with those other shitty socialist countries if they hate FREEDOM so much!

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/28/2009 1:21:41 PM   
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Obama was a shoe-in. 


Really?  I remember hearing the same thing about McCain when he was ahead in the polls.



I don't ever remember McCain leading the polls, but then again I don't usually pay attention to that kind of thing either so I won't dispute what you said.

Either way, the election was pretty much the Democrats' to lose. 

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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/28/2009 2:22:05 PM   
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Michael Moore has made approximately 150 million on his films.


Let's hope for Moore's sake that the "greed police" do not catch wind of this.


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RE: Michael Moore manifesto - 10/28/2009 2:39:51 PM   
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Michael Moore has made approximately 150 million on his films. Could he have done the same thing in Cuba ? I really doubt it. If this Country is that bad, why doesn't he just move ?

No, but he could have done so quite happily in in any of those lefty Scandinavian countries or the appallingly left leaning Belgium or Holland.

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