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MasterSean69 -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 6:55:56 PM)

To me the ONLY things that matters, is how WE feel with each other......

The US of A, brought Africans here to be Slaves, Stole the Land from "US" / Native Americans, put the Japanese in concentration camps, let Hitler Massacre the Jewish and continue to let the RICH fuck over those less fortunate......  This country segregates whenever it can; Rich/Poor, Black/White, Country/Rap Music...... 

1. Racist and Discriminating Views keep people from mixing.

2. Preference has nothing to do with Race....  Big, little, short, tall, black hair, blonde hair, small breast, Big breast, trimmed, shaved; these are preferences......

3. Having an Open Mind is a Choice not a Preference.

4. Dating inside or outside of your Race is Choice not a Preference. 

5. Discriminating against a person is a Choice not a Preference. 

So as long people have difference VIEWS about Cultures, Religions and Ethnicites, we will have people not crossing over racially her in this Country!!!!


Learning about EACH other Cultures, WOULD make OUR Country a Much better place......




DomImus -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 7:31:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterSean69

2. Preference has nothing to do with Race....  Big, little, short, tall, black hair, blonde hair, small breast, Big breast, trimmed, shaved; these are preferences......


Total semantic gibberish. I choose to date tall women. I choose brunettes over blondes and redheads. I choose women with large busts over flat chested women. I choose to date white women. All choices based on what I prefer hence they are preferences.




Blaakmaan -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 8:41:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

If you had looked at the book referenced, there is one interesting facet. Which is that black males go outside their own race to find a submissive female. Black American women are very strong, very powerful in their own homes, many have had to be. Therefore when a black man wants a submissive female, he tends to look for those from other cultures.

I remember the article that came out about this and the uproar that ensued.


I didn't.

There's very little that's true of all Black American women other than: 1) they're black; 2) they're American; and 3) they're women.

Other than that, I would hesitate to generalize like that about Black American women.

It borders on--if it isn't actually--a stereotype.




Blaakmaan -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 8:46:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomImus

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ORIGINAL: MasterSean69

2. Preference has nothing to do with Race....  Big, little, short, tall, black hair, blonde hair, small breast, Big breast, trimmed, shaved; these are preferences......


Total semantic gibberish. I choose to date tall women. I choose brunettes over blondes and redheads. I choose women with large busts over flat chested women. I choose to date white women. All choices based on what I prefer hence they are preferences.



Well, actually, THAT is the semantic gibberish.

Choosing to date white women may be your "preference," but that "preference" may well be grounded in your prejudices.

On the other hand, if you're a white man and you "choose" to date white women, I am totally down with that.

Even if it is grounded in a prejudice.




Blaakmaan -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 8:49:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MasterSean69

2. Preference has nothing to do with Race....  Big, little, short, tall, black hair, blonde hair, small breast, Big breast, trimmed, shaved; these are preferences......



I'm not too worried about mixing, but I totally agree with you.




impishlilhellcat -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 8:55:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

This topic was brought up within the "Why not black instead of African American" thread and rather than hijack that thread with this topic I thought I should start a thread to discuss it.

Although more and more people in today’s society indicate an openness to dating outside of their race, many still consciously or subconsciously prefer either to date only individuals from their racial background or individuals from specific racial backgrounds while excluding all others. For example, I myself have only dated black men for the past two years. Most people including myself who admit to such limitations on who they will date defend this practice as simply a preference rather than yet another, subtle form of racism. The reasoning ranges from innate or genetic attractions to people of a specific race or who share their own background and wanting someone with similar cultural values or experiences, to feeling as though one relates more to a particular race and the desire to have children who resemble themselves.

While many reasons offered for dating limitations present legitimate concerns, does having such concerns adequately answer the question of whether or not excluding particular races for any reason in any context amount to racism?

And are race-based dating limitations truly just preferences, or are they a smaller reflection of society's racist views in general?

Is dating strictly within your race the same as strictly dating outside your race or within another race? Why or why not?










I don't date based on race really. I'm just simply attracted whom I'm attracted to. My last two significant others happened to be happened to be black men. Do I have a preference for black men no. Have I only dated black men? No. I am drawn as someone else stated, to dark hair and dark eyes, but I'm more apt to pick someone who meshes with me intelligence and humor wise before I am to someone based on their race. Just as I would pick someone based on these qualities rather than by "hot" or "gorgeous" they appeared to be. I think to pick someone based solely on how they look or what race they are is asking for trouble because then what's the fundamentals of the relationship? Just my humble opinion though.




Blaakmaan -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 10:00:06 PM)

There are lots of different ways to approach the question, and lots of different ways to think and feel about it.

Let me toss our some of my thoughts and feelings:

The progressive side of me would ordinarily applaud people for dating outside of their own race--like it's breaking down some artificial barrier between people.

But not necessarily.

For example, from my observations (and from things that I've read), Asian women date outside of their race more than anybody, and of those that do, the vast majority of them date white men.

I don't think there's anything particularly laudible about that.

I actually think there's something twisted about it.

They seem to prefer white men to their own men.

That's not racial egalitarianism.

It's pretty much the opposite.

The Afro-centric side of me prefers to see Blacks with other Blacks, and thinks that increases in interracial dating tend to benefit white men more than anyone else, because white men--due to their superior position in society--tend to have more money, power, prestige and "things" than other men, which can (unfortunately) carry a lot of weight in the "dating market."

In other words, I think that white men disproportionately benefit from increases in interracial dating because the dating "playing field" is not a level one.

Then, there are those Blacks, whites, and Asians who only date outside their race.

I don't find anything particularly laudible about that, either.

I think that to eschew dating people of your own race, and to only date people of another race, is also kinda twisted.

It's rejecting your own race.

And, if you're a minority and you only date outside of your race, I think that's more than just kinda twisted. I think that's very twisted.

But that's my opinion.

Yours, of course, may vary.




Rule -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 10:09:36 PM)

The concept 'race' has no meaning a modern biology. It has been established that the genetic variations within populations are larger than those between populations.

As for me: I favor 'cute'.




GreedyTop -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/30/2009 10:28:32 PM)

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The Afro-centric side of me prefers to see Blacks with other Blacks, and thinks that increases in interracial dating tend to benefit white men more than anyone else


Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but the majority of interracial couples I know are white women/black men.




DomImus -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/31/2009 5:58:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan


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ORIGINAL: DomImus

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ORIGINAL: MasterSean69

2. Preference has nothing to do with Race....  Big, little, short, tall, black hair, blonde hair, small breast, Big breast, trimmed, shaved; these are preferences......


Total semantic gibberish. I choose to date tall women. I choose brunettes over blondes and redheads. I choose women with large busts over flat chested women. I choose to date white women. All choices based on what I prefer hence they are preferences.



Well, actually, THAT is the semantic gibberish.

Choosing to date white women may be your "preference," but that "preference" may well be grounded in your prejudices.

On the other hand, if you're a white man and you "choose" to date white women, I am totally down with that.

Even if it is grounded in a prejudice.


Good points all. That preference may well indeed be grounded in prejudice. And it may not. If we assume that someone's choice to date only within their race is based on an underlying prejudice - which I thought was the underlying point the OP was trying to make - we are actually only displaying our own prejudice.








manxcat -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/31/2009 7:02:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead
trashy menthol-smoking "Newport" whores anyway*  [:D] 


Hey, what's with the anti menthol shtick?
Now this is a prejudice I remember. I was a menthol smoker, and yes, Newport was my choice of brands. And every other cigarette smoker sneered at me because of it!

Which should go to show that no matter what you do, somebody else disapproves.


Indeed!  The guys at the (school) bus shop where I worked didn't like it that I smoked brown (More's) cigarettes and wore skirts to work.  Go figure.

Back on topic. 

Around here (in Indian country) I have met quite a few openly racist people of both genders (both white and Indian) then discover they are married to or living with a person of the race they espouse hatred for. (hmmm sounds almost like bdsm[8|])  So I would say that sexual preference is not a racist issue for most, although it can be for some.  
I have dated and had sex with men (and women) of every race, and many variations/mixes  thereof.   As to country of birth - probably about 1/3 of those on the planet.  (I have had an active life)   Some here have commented on the *alike* factor, although I tend to stand with DRH and prefer the difference.  Nothing prettier in the br mirrors than my pale skin next to the darker variety, although I have been equally enthralled with blonds and redheads.  Especially redheads.  One of those hijacked my trip cross country, in Louisiana.  Connect the dots is a great game to play with their freckles.

Bottom line is what is in the heart and between the ears.  Sex begins in the mind.   And the handsomest, richest, tallest  (insert whichever ist you want) can't do it for me if he is mindless, or an ass.

manxy







porcelaine -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/31/2009 11:53:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Blaakmaan

Then, there are those Blacks, whites, and Asians who only date outside their race.

I don't find anything particularly laudible about that, either.

I think that to eschew dating people of your own race, and to only date people of another race, is also kinda twisted.

It's rejecting your own race.

And, if you're a minority and you only date outside of your race, I think that's more than just kinda twisted. I think that's very twisted.


Blaakmaan,

i don't find anything troublesome about what's been stated. however, i do know many that date exclusively outside of their race often do so for a variety of reasons. one being a lack of acceptance amongst their own, especially where differences are perceived. the habitual nature of quantifying other people's ethnicity according to speech, dress, cuisine, education, interests, racial issues, etc. are often contributing factors for interracial dating in my opinion. what is most troubling is that the commentary isn't merely relegated to adults but is often articulated by children as well. the refusal for some to accept and respect individualism has only fueled the desire to seek other options, where things of this nature are nonexistent or rarely uttered.

porcelaine




Fnordstrum -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/31/2009 2:50:21 PM)

I would say that if you don't date a specific race, if it's simply because you just don't find people of that race attractive, then it's not racism. (Some people are just really picky when it comes to what they find attractive, etc)

However any other reason, I would say falls under racism... Or at least I can't think of anything that wouldn't be.

Fnord.

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MasterSean69 -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (10/31/2009 7:52:24 PM)

"<b>Semantic Gibberish"</i>.... Such a great <b>CHOICE</b> of words....  Which do you prefer to be call Black, African American or a Nigger? 

Choose <b>( Choice)</b>which and then tell me why you Prefer  <b>(Preference)</b> one over the other.  

One Black Man to another..... This is why I would just "prefer" to be called an American and other "choose" to call me an African American, Black Man or a Nigger.




HisBestGirl -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (11/1/2009 10:32:37 PM)

FR-

My mother is Malaysian-born Chinese and my father is Caucasian Australian. I was born in Australia, raised in a very Caucasian area, spent much of my early childhood being made to feel different, despite the fact that I am pretty much Western culturally, because to Westerners, I don't look white enough and to Asians, I don't look Asian enough. Nobody believes me when I tell them I am partly Chinese. My mother's family continue to live in Malaysia and I have had very little influence from that side of my family.

I have pretty much dated only white men, not from any particular preference. Perhaps one could draw a conclusion regarding the notion that one is drawn to a significant other due to the similarities shared between them and their parent of the opposite sex. Of course that is not a hard and fast rule; I have dated black men and Asian men but for some reason, I always end up with white men. I love redheads in particular, perhaps because they are rare, but possibly also because I read a trashy romance novel when I was 11 where a dashing copper-haired earl fell in love with a beautiful mixed-race pagan princess. A girl can dream...




wandersalone -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (11/2/2009 1:37:02 AM)

My story is similar to yours HisBestGirl, I was born in Australia but I obviously look Indian.  I have mostly dated white men primarily because they are the men that have been around me and my friends.  It didn't start out as a preference but it probably is one now mainly because that is mostly what I know.

Um just for the record though.....I am an equal opportunity white man dater - I have dated Brits, Irish, an American, a Canadian, a Scott and of course a number of Aussies [:D]




Level -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (11/2/2009 3:13:02 AM)

So, wanders, you have spread your hawtness all over Aussieland, then [:D]




wandersalone -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (11/2/2009 3:16:44 AM)

grins.... I have spread it over quite a few different countries Level.... why do you think I love traveling? [;)]




Level -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (11/2/2009 3:18:21 AM)

Oooooo.......*puts up a big, blinky beacon showing where Texas is* [:)]




sirsholly -> RE: The impact of racial preferences in dating... (11/2/2009 3:34:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

Oooooo.......*puts up a big, blinky beacon showing where Texas is* [:)]
no need, Level. The only thing Wanders has to do is listen for the "Y'all"




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