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luckydawg -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 1:33:03 PM)

Are we talking about you Tazzy?

Or is that just a hijack, so we don't discuss the fact that Obama is running a Death Squad?...And the lack of outrage on the left, about it.




tazzygirl -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 1:49:50 PM)

When the "may" becomes "is" then you got a point.

LOL.. death squad... cute!




Starbuck09 -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 1:53:46 PM)

It depends on the nature of the drone how effective they are Dawg, the point is that a modern airforce costs crippiling amounts to field relatively small numbers of aircraft. While drones cannot establist strategic air superiority they could with relative ease establish tactical dominance which would be disastrous for Western military operations. With one or two hundered thousand drones at his diposal Saddam, for example, could have established air cover for many of the engagements his army found itself in where his airforce were helpless.  I suspect within a few years there will be a complete ban on unmanned drones being used offensively though I concede I could be completely wrong Dawg.




Starbuck09 -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 1:55:41 PM)

Master Jack the U.N. is no more anti American than it is anti British or anti Russian or Chinese. The only powers in the U.N. are the five members of the permanent security council and they are only pro themselves.




slvemike4u -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 2:10:52 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

When the "may" becomes "is" then you got a point.

LOL.. death squad... cute!
death squad....death panels....anyone else see a trend here?




tazzygirl -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 2:16:44 PM)

lol... same one since the beginning of politics?




luckydawg -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 2:28:19 PM)

Yeah the trend is pretty clear. Something the left wants to ignore, gets mentioned, and the "usualls" come derail it.

Tazzy? may? is? Are you actually disputing that Obama is having people targeted, without trials, for execution by drones. That's just sad. Its not even sort of debatable. It "is".






tazzygirl -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 3:21:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Yeah the trend is pretty clear. Something the left wants to ignore, gets mentioned, and the "usualls" come derail it.

Tazzy? may? is? Are you actually disputing that Obama is having people targeted, without trials, for execution by drones. That's just sad. Its not even sort of debatable. It "is".



actually, im disputing nothing.  i read the article

did you?

UNITED NATIONS - A U.N. human rights investigator warned the United States Tuesday that its use of unmanned warplanes to carry out targeted executions may violate international law.

Gotta love it when people stop at the attention grabbing headline.

Philip Alston said that unless the Obama administration explains the legal basis for targeting particular individuals and the measures it is taking to comply with international humanitarian law which prohibits arbitrary executions, "it will increasingly be perceived as carrying out indiscriminate killings in violation of international law."

....

Alston said the U.S. should provide details on use of drones, disclose what precautions it takes to ensure the unmanned aircraft are used strictly for purposes consistent with international humanitarian law, and what measures exist to evaluate what happened when their weapons have been used.

....

As i said.. when "may" becomes "is" let me know.




servantforuse -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:09:30 PM)

Maybe congress will have to go to the UN before raising our taxes. You never know. They might say no when capital hill says yes.




tazzygirl -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:10:58 PM)

ROFL

you guys are never happy.  use them and he is a killer... dont use them and he is cow towing to the UN. 

take a stance and quit being wishy washy




servantforuse -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:15:02 PM)

I love the drones and think they should be used more. We are building more of them and the new ones are much more accurate. I am for anything that helps our troops end the madness in the middle east and elsewhere.




Slavehandsome -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:30:44 PM)

This is the Change I Can Believe In. What a dramatic shift in direction our country has gone, now that "America has spoken". Just yesterday, Obama signed in $130 Billion to throw at the War Profiteers. Meanwhile, the body count hits a new high (again). By the way, would it be possible for the CIA, FBI, U.N., NATO, TSA, TBI, Mossad, S.S., M.I.-5, NASA, DHS or whatever over-budgeted big brother ego to coordinate surgical "neutralizations" using www.verichipcorp.com in the name of "wander prevention"? Your thoughts, gentlemen?





tazzygirl -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:36:35 PM)

lol.. well.. i do believe slavehandsome has decided i am not to participate in this discussion.

good luck gentlemen




Slavehandsome -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:38:38 PM)

What makes you think I decided that about you?




Musicmystery -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:44:33 PM)

quote:

I hate sockpuppets who do not argue in good faith, in fact I hate sockpuppets altogether.

Ron


....even....Lambchop???

[:(]




tazzygirl -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:50:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Slavehandsome

What makes you think I decided that about you?


if you consider me a "gentleman"... ummm... [:D]




Musicmystery -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 4:54:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

death squad....death panels....anyone else see a trend here?


That this crap will never die?

[:D]




xBullx -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 7:39:58 PM)

I had a friend in the Army that when he would wrestle his love muscle at night used to cum in a sock and the sick fuck left it hung over the frame of his headbored...

Sock puppet or cum dumpster...?[sm=dunno.gif]

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I am unsure how we came to the president wanting to cede any soveriegnty to the UN.

It is ridiculous on its face.

I hate sockpuppets who do not argue in good faith, in fact I hate sockpuppets altogether.

Ron





luckydawg -> RE: This is the organization our president wants to cede sovereignty to (10/29/2009 7:51:20 PM)

tazzy, this issue is far larger than the cited article, and we are all aware of basic current events, right?....

Do you deny that under Obama leadership people in Yemen and Somalia and Pakistan, ect are being targeted and killed along with bystanders (often thier families) by US drones? Is there any way that can be considered "law enforcement"? That a guy at the UN is doing the same as the Nobel commitee, in trying to goad Obama towards a certain direction with faint praise, is meaningless (as far as I am concerned). How is it in any way different than Pinochet drawing up a list of enemies to be killed along with whoever else is with them?

As Domken pointed out, targeted assasination is illegal under US Law. I disagree with the law. I disagree with the idea that Terrorism is a criminal issue to be handled by "law enforcement". I support Obama on this. I am glad we are killing these fuckers wherever we can, and they are scared to look at the sky.




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