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kaelibrianne -> Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 1:12:30 PM)

Name might seem confusing but I wasn't sure what to call this forum. I have a pretty odd schedule you might say for someone who is of age. Monday-Friday I am treated as if I am younger than two years old. While Saturday and Sunday I am a full time kajira. I won't go in to detail but when i was young I had some bad things happen to me that showed up when I got older. Durring school one day when I was fourteen i fell out of my desk and started crying and bawling, peeing myself and not able to speak. My best friend who shared that glass with me informed the principle and his parents came because my mother was off doing god knows what. Once they finally got me calmed down I didn't remember it at all. Skip forward a few years later after some diagnosis work and some hypnosis and I learned i have some some of you may know as a little. Through work I found ways to communicate with it. I have heard of other people having similar issues and resolving it like I have. By allowing the little to come out in a safe environment in exchange for it letting you have some days of peace and letting you come out when something major is needed. When I go little I have a room set up where a Mistress/Mother type figure takes care of me. There is a crib a rocking chair and I wear "nappies" or  "daipers" special made with cute print that feel realistic and comfy. Maybe i'm just weird but i wish they had a different term for it than Age Play for this sort of case. I don't get any sexual pleasure from it and every inch of content around me when I go little is G and no higher.  I was sorta wondering everyones thoughts and wondering if there were other people on here who understand what i am talking about.



Moonhead -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 1:19:27 PM)

That's a fairly widespread kink, kae. Have a look at "adult baby" on wikipedia.



kaelibrianne -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 1:32:44 PM)

Thats what I am getting across for me it isn't a kinky or fetish and many others it is the same way. So i'm talking about a name for people who don't get pleasure out of it in that manner.



Moonhead -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 1:44:36 PM)

I beg your pardon: I didn't realise that was what you were getting at.
From your description, perhaps it could be considered a form of therapy?



angelikaJ -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 2:04:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kaelibrianne

Thats what I am getting across for me it isn't a kinky or fetish and many others it is the same way. So i'm talking about a name for people who don't get pleasure out of it in that manner.


Not everyone who engages in age play gets something sexual out of it.
For many people it isn't sexual.
For some people it is just something fun to do, for others it is about receiving the nurturance and safety they didn't get as children... I have seen age-play referred to as creative re-parenting.
If it works for you, does it matter what you call it?



TwistedHeart74 -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 2:09:59 PM)

Age play to me isn't sexual, it isn't a turn on at all. It's about freeing myself from the daily grind, it's about having time put aside where I can let my hair down, be a brat, be a dollbaby, be silly, be fun or be whatever.
I color in coloring books, wear adorable outfits I normally wouldn't in colors that are way off my usual radar as pretty. I can be nurtured in a way that in my "other" life I won't allow to happen. I can let a Daddy/Mommy close to me physically, where I have issues with that when not in the little frame of mind.
It's a way for me to throw off the stress of every day living and just be.
So you're not alone in the not making it sexual thing [:)]



kaelibrianne -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 2:31:20 PM)

Thanks for all of the great feedback. 



GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 5:24:11 PM)

KAE..
IN the last year I have met at least 6 men who wished the same thing that you are talking about...we talked at length and being on a BDSM website was one of the only ways they felt they could get "close " to what they sought...
TO be mothered...protected..nurtured..held..to pee in a diaper with freedom..to be rocked and cooed to.

I went ahead with 3 of these men due to their incredible intelligence and insight into their own process.I went ahead with them becaue I felt honored to be part of something they had dug deep to understand and were noe comforable with.
For me the "reward"/high was their great trust.

I had started a thread a while back wondering about starting a THERAPY type situation where I do this..because as I get older my mother-goddess love is all inclusive and expansive.

TO be part of such a scenerio is profound indeed.

I would say   it is not AGE PLAY and agree with you..it is something else for *many..*
Nurturing surrogate? BIG mother love?Serenity therapy?
Healing through ritual?
Healing ,growth and change through postive re-parenting?
.

GM



DesFIP -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 6:45:29 PM)

Actually the term I would use for this is psychodrama. Re-enacting the original trauma in a safe environment in order to deal with it. Usually done by a trained psychotherapist as amateurs could easily make things worse.



Termyn8or -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 10:00:33 PM)

Is it that much different than bondage ? You trust another, the burden of even surviving is no longer your problem.

I wrote quite a treatise on that on a chastity belt website. I equated it, pertty much as a way to regress. When little, what happens to you ? You are put in cribs or playpens which are essentially cages. You are strapped down into car seats and strollers and such. Many other posters agreed that there is a strong connection.

The release from responsibility seems to unarguably be a common denominator. It is indeed why I will bottom. During that time my mind is on nothing but the here and now. The gas bill, work, all that shit is totally out of my mind. Ironically, in a way getting tied or chained up somehow releases you. I believe it is the same dynamic at work.

The human mind is indeed complex, but we do know a few things. It loves to reminisce, to go back. Some love to study history in detail, and attempt to know it as the back of their hand, this may or may not be a factor. But what is, is the personal regression to a stage in life when one is not reponsible for their own well being. Like you trusted your Parents and/or guardians.

T



kaelibrianne -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 10:12:41 PM)

*Smiles* I am so glad you guys are being so helpful and this hasn't turned in to a type of bash fest. If you have any more views or comments i would love to hear them



Termyn8or -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/4/2009 11:14:54 PM)

Kae, we are not the dirty rotten bastards that we might seem sometimes. People bash each other but I think we are tuning in on a common goal. Acceptance.

For some people, even right in their profile they will state that age play is a dealbreaker, a big nono, a huge turnoff. But with the people who are reasonable, that doesn't mean it can't be discussed.

There are some here with a fighter mentality, and they will flame each other. But it is never about lifestyle preference. I think not only is it against the rules, I think people just don't do it because of our mutual acceptance. I think for example that anal sex is kind of gross. It is a personal reference, and it doesn't really matter if it was homo or hetero. But people do it all the time. Why on Earth would it bother me ? They don't ask me to do a thing.

I notice you are new, the archives are there. Ther are articles about tear gas during a scene and even flame throwers ,,,,,,, wait that last one was a different website. But the tear gas one is here and I couldn't help but get a chuckle out of it really, but again, they are not bothering me.

Tell you this, but you can do this on CM. If you tie me up and let me stew for a while, you probably should diaper me. For me it is a form of submission, just not age play. That is not how I take it. I am not saying it is totally different, but it is a different flavor or something like that. Quite hard to put into words I must admit.

Actually if you go back far enough you could gather enough information to find me. Privacy is of prime importance here, but I let the info out in little bits and pieces and do you know why ? Because I am not really worried about it. If you're a hottie female meeting someone off the net, you have things to worry about. But I am in a different situation. I am not as afraid as some have to be.

I have also been outed here and there. Not only have I suffered the effects of loose lips, I have actually been busted and searched by the cops while wearing a chastity device. I have not made it exactly obvious who I am but it can be found here. You have to know how to look. And if someone goes through all tht trouble to find me and shows up at my door from CM, I'll probably bade them in and offer them a beer. But that is me. I am 49, faced eath too many times to be paranoid about anything, and have arms and an army. Almost an army.

So if you keep your anonnymity, you can say anything here. Shit the bed last night ? Can't get it up ? Can't have an orgasm ? Doesn't matter how embarrasing it might seem, nobody can find you unless you want them to or there is a court order.

In my eye, that's the beauty of CM. Despite their rather strict limitations about the content of posts when it comes to certain things, in a way it is a different form of free speech. Nobody is going to find you, or tattle on you to your boss or something like that. Nothing of the sort, and even if people here could, they probably wouldn't anyway.

Have fun here. These people can be quite interesting at times.

T



DesFIP -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/5/2009 4:26:07 AM)

Term, that's a viewpoint I have never heard before, that bondage is regression. Maybe for women, since the incidence and fear of sexual  harassment and rape is so much higher, for us it is sexual. Certainly for me it is.

Kae, we only flame people who come in pretending they know it all and are stooping to educate us poor peons. You come in being friendly, you get friendly back. And welcome to the zoo, btw.



GYPSYMAMBO -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/5/2009 8:04:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Actually the term I would use for this is psychodrama. Re-enacting the original trauma in a safe environment in order to deal with it. Usually done by a trained psychotherapist as amateurs could easily make things worse.

You are VERY right///those who have NO IDEA of deep trauma..issues etc can trigger someone off and make it worse.
On that note I would have to say...I went forward becasue I have some understanding through a DIP/ in Women's councelling and another in PSYCH.
.Even then my credentials do not a DR make..
I had to have a high LEVEL of communication WITH the participants..

GM



AnimusRex -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/5/2009 8:22:15 AM)

quote:

Actually the term I would use for this is psychodrama. Re-enacting the original trauma in a safe environment in order to deal with it. Usually done by a trained psychotherapist as amateurs could easily make things worse.


Kae, I bolded De's comments, to emphasize the point. It sounds as if you had a lot of emotional trauma early on, and need to find a way to resolve it.

I don't know if turning to kink is a good way to get past it- it seems a bit like self-medicating, the psychological equivalent of taking out your own appendix.

I would suggest finding a kink aware therapist, and working with them. One of the hardest things about therapy is having to choose to get bettter. Oddly enough, emotional dysfunction can appear to be a very safe and comforting place to be, and it takes courage and strength to climb out of the pit.

I wish you well.



pahunkboy -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/5/2009 8:28:07 AM)

It sounds dangerous.  In so far as the OP goes.

be  careful with how you resolve the past.  If it were me that sort of thing would backfire.  But then that is me.  Just be careful.



DesFIP -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/5/2009 8:30:58 AM)

Now I can see doing this if as a result of therapy, you know exactly what you need, and you are positive your partner will not deviate from your script. That would tend to minimize hitting an emotional trigger. In any case, helps if your therapist knows you're going to try this, and will be there to pick up the pieces if necessary.

Most people's psyches are full of landmines. And you don't want to set one of them off.



kaelibrianne -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/6/2009 11:41:19 AM)

Again thanks for the feed back i read this thread everytime i reload my browser. i have gone to therapy for it and hypnos sessions and can say that it has helped. "Maybe for women, since the incidence and fear of sexual harassment and rape is so much higher, for us it is sexual. Certainly for me it is." maybe i read that wrong but it almost seemed like you were exluding me from "women" a little bit but im sure it is just my imagination. i can say the idea of rape is not very sexually stimulating for me and one of my "deal breakers" i have gotten the "while you regress i want you to be daddies little slut" and instantly blocked them. Kajira Rule: A free is never wrong even if they are by denition wrong. Kajira Rule: "no" is not in the dictionary of a kajira. While i may not be able to say no to sex i wouldnt classify anything as rape other than not willing to have sex with someone who than proceeded to take it from me even though i was not willing to give. I mean i suppose the illusion of sex maybe? telling them no when you mean yes? i dunno.



DesFIP -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/6/2009 12:39:58 PM)

Kae, that was addressed to Term who says for him bondage is not sexual, but just regression. In fact I've never seen anyone say before that people are attracted to bondage because it reminds of us of being babes, in swaddling blankets.

Most women I know who like bondage, find it sexual. You didn't say anything about  bondage, one way or the other.

But I absolutely agree that for someone who truly regresses, that early age play state is not one that sex can at all be brought into. And men who suggest it, don't understand it at all.

Since I don't go little girl, but instead 16 which was a rough year for me, I can do sexual. Hell I was sexually active at that age so I'm redoing what I did then but with better choice of a partner and a better outcome.



kaelibrianne -> RE: Age play? Or Something else? (11/6/2009 7:10:21 PM)

Thast actually really interesting because I know two Mistress' that both revert back to 16. *rubs her chin detective like*



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