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Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "Eve... - 11/11/2009 1:04:48 PM

Brain

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I hope people in the future make his life a hell hole. What a sell out.

Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "Everyone Has A Right Express Views"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTr27w7usg&feature=sub

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:17:43 PM

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So, what's new here? Those are the same civic disobedience tactics that were taking place back in the 1960s over the Vietnam conflict.

I see nothing new here.

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:24:16 PM

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He said all along that he would not support a health care bill with the public option included.

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:26:40 PM

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No he has not always said that. He said that until they told him he could remain the chair of the homeland security comm, which I'm sure he will lose every soon

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:28:47 PM

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That may well be, I don't know. I was looking at the video clip offered simply for getting an answer as to why those people were arrested. From what I saw, they were arrested for engaging in an act of civil disobedience not unlike those from 40 years ago.

As to the motivation behind those who protested, I am not going to make any assumptions nor, for me, is it relevant to my understanding of why they were arrested.

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:32:50 PM

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As much as I dislike Bush and Cheney I have far more respect for them than this little weasel.

Flip-flop: Lieberman promised 'universal health care' in 2006

Political watchdogs and supporters of the public health care option are accusing Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman of hypocrisy for announcing he plans to filibuster the Senate health care reform bill after years of voicing support for health care reform.

Since Lieberman's announcement on Tuesday that he would not stop a Republican filibuster of health reform if that health reform included a public option, bloggers have been scrambling to post videos of Lieberman advocating health care reform, including the principle of universal coverage, in past election campaigns.

"What I’m saying to the people of Connecticut, I can do more for you and your families to get something done to make health care affordable, to get universal health insurance," Lieberman said during a July, 2006, debate.

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:37:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: sappatoti

So, what's new here? Those are the same civic disobedience tactics that were taking place back in the 1960s over the Vietnam conflict.

I see nothing new here.

Uh..........I think you might be missing the point.

It's not about the arrests but Lieberman's hypocrisy and flip-flopping.

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 1:45:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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So, what's new here? Those are the same civic disobedience tactics that were taking place back in the 1960s over the Vietnam conflict.

I see nothing new here.

Uh..........I think you might be missing the point.

It's not about the arrests but Lieberman's hypocrisy and flip-flopping.

If I missed the point, then so be it. I was only using what was written as the title of this thread as the topic of discussion. There is no way for me to know what "the point" might have been desired solely based upon the wording of the title.

Now, if you wish to infer "the point" from the content of the video, then fine. However, as I stated in previous posts, the tactics used by the protesters are straight tried-n-true standard issue fare. The subject of the contention is irrelevant for the tactic is designed to be plug-n-play in that regard. If it wasn't about Lieberman's apparent flip-flop on health care, it could just as easily been about anything else a diametrically opposed opponent might want to create a media moment. Health care... environmental issues... civil rights... war... the subject matter is irrelevant. What is relevant is the protesters chose a standard disobedience tactic to which the police had no choice but to use their own standard response for this situation.

All neatly staged to create a media event.

There's nothing wrong with that either. It shows that both sides of a political argument can play the game really well.

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 4:04:01 PM

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So guess that RML is pretending that current proposal is "Universal Health Care". I guess some follks are such simplistic cheerleaders they are not even paying basic attention to what is actually being proposed.

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 4:07:17 PM

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no, you are lying as is par for the course with you, RML isnt pretending and never said it was universal health care, and since you seem to know so goddamn much, why dont you tell us what exactly is being proposed, or are you going to stick with insipid insinuations and slander as usual, something you know and propose incessantly?

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 5:44:10 PM

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Mnot, Thats so cute you rise to defend RML. Look if you think that Universal Health Care is what is in the Current Dem bill, I am not going to waste my time educating you. IF you really don't know tha,t it is obvious that you are cheering for a bill you don't know what it is.

Now RML showed where Lieberman wants "Universal Health Care", then called him a hypocrite for not supporting the current bill, whihc does not provide Universal Coverage, and no Dems are pretending it does. Sorry, if that confuses you.

Yet another blathering, runon sentance with half assed insults. Your like a broken record.

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 5:48:38 PM

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Joe Lieberman has supported a change in health care, but only if the public option is out. He is just one Senator who will vote this down. It appears that the Senate has 42 votes. They need 60. This is going nowhere soon.

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/11/2009 6:15:15 PM

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As much as I dislike Bush and Cheney I have far more respect for them than this little weasel.

For me, the dislike is equal, but the puzzlement way bigger when it comes to Weazelman.

I've come to the conclusion that he is a hopeless infantile personality with a sado-anal fixation, who relies on antagonising others for the sake of remaining in the spotlight. His mother must have not paid him enough attention when he was sitting on the potty and she obviously forgot to reward his productions with adequate praise, hence his repeated attempts at sadistic blackmail.

Thank you, Papa Freud.

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 6:20:27 PM

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Mnot, Thats so cute you rise to defend RML. Look if you think that Universal Health Care is what is in the Current Dem bill, I am not going to waste my time educating you. IF you really don't know tha,t it is obvious that you are cheering for a bill you don't know what it is.

Now RML showed where Lieberman wants "Universal Health Care", then called him a hypocrite for not supporting the current bill, whihc does not provide Universal Coverage, and no Dems are pretending it does. Sorry, if that confuses you.

Yet another blathering, runon sentance with half assed insults. Your like a broken record.

Please take a breath, count to 10....and spell check...it hurts my eyes (and what little brain function is left) to try and read your...blathering.
As the king would say "thangyouverymuch".

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 6:25:56 PM

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In Alaska, frostbite of the extremities isn't unheard of, hence the increased rate of typographic errors from posters that reside in the Great North

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 6:33:11 PM

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In Alaska, frostbite of the extremities isn't unheard of, hence the increased rate of typographic errors from posters that reside in the Great North .

Mea culpa, physical handicaps due to frostbite are to be overlooked (unless one has intentionally failed to wear their bearskin codpiece).

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 6:51:12 PM

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Mea culpa, physical handicaps due to frostbite are to be overlooked (unless one has intentionally failed to wear their bearskin codpiece).

Also, let's not forget larynxographia, or "typos of the larynx" (a side-effect of the notoriously harsh Alaskan weather). An other famous sufferer of this condition besides Lucky is, of course, Sarah Palin.

Edited for typo due to the mild NH autumn

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/11/2009 9:44:12 PM

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So guess that RML is pretending that current proposal is "Universal Health Care". I guess some follks are such simplistic cheerleaders they are not even paying basic attention to what is actually being proposed.

No I'm not, though I wish it was, but that isn't what this discussion is about.

Are you suggesting that the reason Lieberman is not supporting this is because it is not single-payer?

Because that is contrary to his remarks.

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RE: Arrests **** Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs &q... - 11/12/2009 6:37:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
Mnot, Thats so cute you rise to defend RML.

ucky, nope, he can defend himself from the inane, it isn't at all difficult.

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Look if you think that Universal Health Care is what is in the Current Dem bill, I am not going to waste my time educating you. IF you really don't know tha,t it is obvious that you are cheering for a bill you don't know what it is.

ucky, you cannot educate a pocket gopher, you make brief and ignorant pronouncements and allude that you have some logic behind it, but it never ever appears. Now, I don't particularly fall down frothing at the mouth due to the wonderfullness of this bill, but after 60 or 70 years of everyone fighting national health to our detriment in the world, it is a step towards some non-profit healthcare.

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Now RML showed where Lieberman wants "Universal Health Care", then called him a hypocrite for not supporting the current bill, whihc does not provide Universal Coverage, and no Dems are pretending it does. Sorry, if that confuses you.

uckster, once again, you are awash in a sea of confusion, and I am trying to throw you in a frame of reference, if Lieberman espouses universal health care, why does he oppose public option? Well, let's hear it professor, the man aint done a goddamn thing arguing why the bill will not provide universal healthcare, nor most importantly has he introduced or co-sponsored a bill for universal healthcare, he just refuses flatly the public option, no reasoning behind it, like you do.

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Yet another blathering, runon sentance with half assed insults. Your like a broken record.

uhhhhhh, uck, run on and You're, is what you are looking for here. Me? a broken record? Why are you still pretending and lying?

LOL

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RE: Arrests @ Liebermans Offices Lieberman Laughs "... - 11/12/2009 6:40:11 AM

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I'll bet all you folks loved Joe in 2000 when he was Algore's running mate and as long as he was toeing your party line. Everybody insults Joe for being a traitor. No insults from this crowd for Arlen Spector. Funny how that works.

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