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subtlebottomgirl -> Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 5:59:29 PM)

Would you encourage or allow your submissive/slave  ( male or female)  to join the Armed Forces?
Do you feel if they did would it change or take their submissive tendencies away? 
Would you feel threatened it would change the dynamics of the realtionship?
Can you share your thoughts  
for   or    against.

Thank You .




DesFIP -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 6:05:58 PM)

It would by definition change the dynamics of the situation. You would be submitting to the military 24/7. You could well not return from a tour in the sandbox. And even if you did, it would leave you changed as a person, possibly not able to submit to someone who you didn't feel would literally have your back, with a gun, when necessary.

With that said, I think it's unethical to stop someone from enlisting or picking any career that calls to them.



LadyPact -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 6:48:24 PM)

My boy is in the military.  I want to make it perfectly clear up front that he had signed up long before I came along.  It is his career and he's put over twenty years into it. 

Once upon a time, right here on these boards, I specifically said that I wouldn't want a boy who was military.  I already have a military husband and I'm more than familiar with the challenges that present themselves.  All of the struggles are very true.  The separations, the deployments, the duties, the loneliness, the stupid shit that breaks the day after they leave to go somewhere, and all of the rest.

Well, then I met My boy, and just the same as it happened years ago when I met My husband.   I realized that some PEOPLE are worth all that.  All of the things that he derives from the military that gives him opportunities, secured him a higher education, provide him with different experiences, allow him the joy of his nursing work, and too many other benefits that I could list here.  Point being, overall, My boy has gotten a lot in serving his country, which in turn has made him a more well rounded s type for Me.

Does it suck sometimes?  Yes.  Just because I see the greater good in something doesn't mean that it's all happiness and joy. 

If for some reason he got out and at a later date came to Me asking for My permission to join up again, I'd grant it.  Mainly because I know how to weigh the advantages and disadvantages and I know which comes out on top.



Lucienne -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 7:50:26 PM)

I was raised in a military family. I... don't feel capable in this moment to describe how strange your question is. To love a military man is to accept that your individual needs will never be paramount.



subtlebottomgirl -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 10:48:52 PM)

Thanks for your strange response.
my question had nothing to do with loving a military man or my individual needs.
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucienne

I was raised in a military family. I... don't feel capable in this moment to describe how strange your question is. To love a military man is to accept that your individual needs will never be paramount.



DrkJourney -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 11:26:20 PM)

Hmmmm....

Just like LP, mine was already in the military when I met him, he is in the reserves.  Your question is a good one because it does/will apply to me. 

Our first date, we stayed up all night talking because two days after that he had to go to training in another state for two weeks.  When he returned, there was definitely a change.  He called me at several stages en route, and the closer he got to the base, the more I could hear him changing from that sweet man I had just met literally hours earlier.

When he returned, he was different, kind of like old him and soldier mixed together.  We always had deployment hanging over our heads, so day by day he was still changing.  Although we tried not to get attached, we did...boy did we...lol  The first part of his deployment was in another state for three months...he really changed.  I went to visit him and the end of that three months, just before he went overseas and he was a robot, a man I didn't recognize.

Now he's deployed, and it sucks ass...lol (just ask LP how many times I cried on her shoulder...lol)

Although he has changed, I have noticed lately when he calls and the closer he gets to coming home that the old "him" is fighting to get through more and more.  So I'm sure with some TLC when he returns I can get him back to that place, and after we get used to each other again, and get back to our lives, I can start training him again, back to the slave we all know and love...lol   Honestly if you had asked me before he went overseas I would probably tell you that this "thing" was something that could never be a slave I would want....lol  I think for me the change had nothing to do with they dynamics as in his submissiveness (sp), because honestly he never lost that, he was just not the same person.  I understood why, and why it had to be, but doesn't mean I liked it...lol

About your question of someone enlisting and would I allow it.  This applies to me because he has stated that he wants to go in again full time.  I'm having enough trouble with part time...lol   But to answer your question, I have to let him go, if that's what they are meant to do, there is really nothing we can do to stop it, and I don't want to.  I would never forbid anything he has that much passion for, even though I do not want him to put himself in harms way ever again.   Even if you forbid him to go, and he obeyed, he would not be happy, probably turn resentful, and things would go down hill fast.

I rambled a lot...sorry about that...but I hope it helps, if even a little.

Trust me, I know how hard this all is...I wish you good luck...let me know if you need anything





LadyPact -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 11:39:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DrkJourney

Hmmmm....

Just like LP, mine was already in the military when I met him, he is in the reserves.  Your question is a good one because it does/will apply to me. 

Our first date, we stayed up all night talking because two days after that he had to go to training in another state for two weeks.  When he returned, there was definitely a change.  He called me at several stages en route, and the closer he got to the base, the more I could hear him changing from that sweet man I had just met literally hours earlier.

When he returned, he was different, kind of like old him and soldier mixed together.  We always had deployment hanging over our heads, so day by day he was still changing.  Although we tried not to get attached, we did...boy did we...lol  The first part of his deployment was in another state for three months...he really changed.  I went to visit him and the end of that three months, just before he went overseas and he was a robot, a man I didn't recognize.

Now he's deployed, and it sucks ass...lol (just ask LP how many times I cried on her shoulder...lol)

Although he has changed, I have noticed lately when he calls and the closer he gets to coming home that the old "him" is fighting to get through more and more.  So I'm sure with some TLC when he returns I can get him back to that place, and after we get used to each other again, and get back to our lives, I can start training him again, back to the slave we all know and love...lol   Honestly if you had asked me before he went overseas I would probably tell you that this "thing" was something that could never be a slave I would want....lol  I think for me the change had nothing to do with they dynamics as in his submissiveness (sp), because honestly he never lost that, he was just not the same person.  I understood why, and why it had to be, but doesn't mean I liked it...lol

About your question of someone enlisting and would I allow it.  This applies to me because he has stated that he wants to go in again full time.  I'm having enough trouble with part time...lol   But to answer your question, I have to let him go, if that's what they are meant to do, there is really nothing we can do to stop it, and I don't want to.  I would never forbid anything he has that much passion for, even though I do not want him to put himself in harms way ever again.   Even if you forbid him to go, and he obeyed, he would not be happy, probably turn resentful, and things would go down hill fast.

I rambled a lot...sorry about that...but I hope it helps, if even a little.

Trust me, I know how hard this all is...I wish you good luck...let me know if you need anything





I'll always have a hand, or an ear for you, if you ever need it.



DrkJourney -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/15/2009 11:56:24 PM)

you "will" learn to stop saying that to this whiner, woman....lol  I do thank you though, you have kept me sane, which wasn't all that much before he went...lol

[sm=excuseme.gif](now guess which one is me and which one is you...lol)



LPslittleclip -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/16/2009 9:50:05 AM)

on the other side of the kneal serving my country has indeed made changes in me but as my Mistress has said it has granted me opportunitys i would not have hade otherwise like finding my Mistress. the seperation is a real bummer, but the reunion is all the sweeter. my job in the army is as a nurse so i get to care for others as is my desire in life. i can take charge when needed but i am still a slave no matter what.



LaTigresse -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/16/2009 12:00:34 PM)

I've spent most of my life surrounded by military people. Part-time, full time, retired. Air Force, Marines, Army, Navy and two special forces guys.

I would never dream of encouraging or discouraging. That is a choice each person makes for themselves. I can only support them to the very best of my abilities.



Huntertn -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/17/2009 7:04:42 PM)

never get in the way of anyones dreams....either accept it or leave.



Dungeoneer -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/18/2009 1:54:17 AM)

I believe being in the military often feeds a submissive's need for domination and control. If I had a submissive who asked if he could join the military, I'd first make sure that he was trained well and properly subjugated, and then I'd have no problem with it.



allthatjaz -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/18/2009 6:11:34 AM)

I take my hat off to our troops but Im afraid it would be a deal breaker for me.



SomethingCatchy -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/18/2009 6:52:28 AM)

I am not a god, and I have no business telling anyone they can't do something they are perfectly capable of doing.

From my personal experience with being in, around and dating military, a lot of the people who decide to join are incredibly immature. Since I don't like immature men, I've never dated anyone who's suddenly decided to join the military.



dreamerdreaming -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/18/2009 9:35:13 AM)

I would highly encourage it, for anyone who would seem a good fit for it. Its not for everyone.

If my boy chose that life: I'd either work with it, or release him. Whatever fit our needs best. Sometimes love means letting go.

Even if it meant the eventual loss of my boy, I would still encourage it if I felt he was a good fit for the career, and the military lifestyle. It is a good, honorable career. 



Tinkerer -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/19/2009 10:02:39 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy

I am not a god, and I have no business telling anyone they can't do something they are perfectly capable of doing.

From my personal experience with being in, around and dating military, a lot of the people who decide to join are incredibly immature. Since I don't like immature men, I've never dated anyone who's suddenly decided to join the military.



But you dated me! [;)]



SomethingCatchy -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/19/2009 12:49:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tinkerer


quote:

ORIGINAL: SomethingCatchy

I am not a god, and I have no business telling anyone they can't do something they are perfectly capable of doing.

From my personal experience with being in, around and dating military, a lot of the people who decide to join are incredibly immature. Since I don't like immature men, I've never dated anyone who's suddenly decided to join the military.



But you dated me! [;)]



I didn't know you when you were 18 and I have a feeling your dad made the whole ordeal a very long, drawn out process, even though it only takes 5 minutes to say an oath.



switch2please -> RE: Serving our Country. (11/20/2009 8:12:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: allthatjaz

I take my hat off to our troops but Im afraid it would be a deal breaker for me.


well said



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