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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/16/2009 6:04:53 PM   
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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/16/2009 7:48:52 PM   
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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 4:29:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: dvntsprite

Perhaps I have been mistaken that true Master's take the time to understand what happens to their submissive/slave. If the Master can not understand what is happening with His then that worries me.

I should hope that a Master has invested enough time in this Lifestyle to find out -why- things happen the way that they do, to be able to explain it to his submissive/slave if she were to ask Him how and why she experienced what she did. Is he just going to come up with some cock-a-mee-mee story to make it sound good? Or is he going to do his best to give her factual information?

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I am not a Master (let alone a true one) but i will give you some factual information: ask females about female issues and subs about sub issues and men about men issues and Masters about Master issues and you will have the most chance of getting answers that will actually help you reach an understanding of whatever problem you are having... this is not meant snippy at all, just my opinion...
Masters do not know everything at all... how could they possibly??? (sorry if i just offended any true Masters)

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 4:31:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		well, leonard nimoy looks a little pissed..........................


just sayin.

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 5:21:07 AM   
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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 10:28:01 AM   
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well, leonard nimoy looks a little pissed..........................


just sayin.

No not pissed....just INTENSE


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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 10:36:56 AM   
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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 10:47:52 AM   
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INTENSE is daddysredheads


i'll take your word for it, cause i haven't a clue who is what.


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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 11:28:11 AM   
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What you described is not uncommon. It is a form of deep subspace. All people respond to the chemical rushes differently, but this is certainly one example of it. I have seen submissives who play until they pass out. Some even come back around and want to go again and again before a session has come full circle. I recently discovered that I often lose blocks of time. I can't remember anything. Time seems to shorten on me. A three hour session feels like a few minutes. I can be deeply emotional or otherwise "awake" and remember not a bit of it. As far as I know, I have always remembered the actual end of session, but I am so out of it that I can barely walk in some cases. I couldn't figure out how to work the door locks on my key chain in one instance and my partner drove us back in my own car. I can say the "noise" of life often fades away during intense play. There is no one and nothing at all except my partner and I. I hear his voice clearly and no one else's, including my own. I can't make a coherent thought come out of my mouth. Environmental noise and sights are blurred and skewed. All kinds of things can happen. It seems to be different based on what kind of play was involved, but deep space is something that many people understand. It isn't wierd and nothing to worry about. Hope this helps.

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 7:39:28 PM   
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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 7:45:13 PM   
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Never ask me to drive afterwards. Not ever.


We were in Washington, DC and had over an hour's drive back. He took the keys with an amused look on his face. LOL



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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/17/2009 8:09:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		The OP's description is pretty accurate as to what I experience with E when I'm in space.  I'd never experienced deep space like I have with him, and when it first started happening, from our first time together, I was a bit freaked, to say the least.   I didn't like the sense of disorientation I got from losing chunks of time, and not knowing what had happened, etc.  I just didn't understand it.  But I grew accustomed to the feeling and now just relax and enjoy the 'whoosh' of being taken completely away and the deep relaxation that I feel afterwards.  Yummy all over.  

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/24/2009 9:29:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		yea, LoL Never drive after being totally out there in subspace!
i learned that the hard way. lmao

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/28/2009 9:20:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't speak for anyone else, but I know I have felt the way you've described after more than a few scenes. I don't know if it's typical or not, but it's definitely awesome. 

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/29/2009 11:10:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		'llo dvnt sprite,
Sounds like you are reaching a dissociative / hypnotic state.  It's not really uncommon.  In fact it's fairly common in my experience.  Perhaps you've just not been around others who experience it or who talk about their experiences. 

As to the M-types researching and understanding and blah blah... Wellllll, I don't know how it is they do what they do... without getting frustrated.  I am not wired that way.  They could explain, I could research, read, jump through all kinds of hoops.  In the end I may understand the mechanics of the thing, but I will still miss the spirit of the thing.  Honestly, I don't care if he understands what is going on with me so much as he understands any danger signals, how to maintain the rhythm of things, how to run the show, ways to make me feel all yummy, and how to get his pleasure.

My grandma used to say "I don't need to be a chicken to know how to cook an egg."  Ron's example of the TV is right, spot on.

And just for the record "true" is not really a word that goes over well.  It smacks of My Way is Better Than Your Way Holier Than Thou ishness.

Good luck in your journey,
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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/29/2009 11:16:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have never experienced sub space. sub drop, yes. sub space, no :(

But it is interesting to read about other people's experiences

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/29/2009 2:44:28 PM   
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I have yet to hear from another submissive or slave who experiences sub space as deeply as I do; Nor do I exactly understand it. I have been told endorphins are simply causing a heightened state of Euphoria, though it feels like something more is going on than a simple chemical release.

When I first start to slip into sub space, things become distorted. I can look out over the sheets (for example) to the wall and become fixed on everything and nothing at the same time. Sounds become distant, my breathing sounds almost defeaning, almost an echo.. as I struggle to stay, struggle to hear the voice.. my mind leaves me with two choices: "Fight" or "Surrender". If I choose to fight, I wont enter full blown sub space, I will just be left disoriented and loopy. If I choose "Surrender", lights out. (Not literally, keep reading.)

From that point forward I can't conciously remember anything that transpires. I can remember little 'snippets' of memory or scenes if you will, 2-3 second 'film cuts'. Though I know that I am acting of my own free will (moving, kneeling, getting into a position that was ordered of me.) So I am THERE, I am just... NOT, there.. at all..

Is this really just endorphins creating a heightened state of euphoria or is this something much more.. it is almost as if my sub concious takes over my concious state, and takes control of my motor functions..left with only primal responses.



While anything is possible, I might suggest having your blood sugars tested to rule out any possibility caused from sugar drops

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 11/30/2009 2:02:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well if you refuse to believe it is a chemical reaction in your mind then you are suggesting something on a spiritual level.  I believe in God and I believe in spiritual power and matters however when a spiritual event happens to a person and they experience the feeling of universal peace, joy, and happiness that I have been able to feel from time to time, I assure you, the chemicals in my brain are different.  This isnt discounting the spiritual but saying that is makes its affects through the physical.  Basically, yes you are experiencing a chemical euphoria, however it was triggered by a pyschological event.  Your submission and the extreme joy it brings you.  Your mind is triggering your altered state and it also may have something to do with the person you are submitting to.  You may feel something for them 

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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 12/1/2009 6:18:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I confess 'sub-space' is one of those topics I could use some general clarification on. Different people really seem to use the word to mean a couple of apparently very different states, and even those seem to manifest in very different ways. Being a non switch, I have to be kinda behavioristic with it and learn each person as I go. It's a tender spot, I know, which is why so frequently I find myself slowly 'walking' girls out of play as slowly as I built up. Until I know their lights are all green, I err on the sight of steering clear of that drop.



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RE: Sub Space Anomaly - 12/1/2009 10:12:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did go read about it today.  I knew D/s'ing was deep.  But how deep subspace goes kind of blew my mind.  Its so different from normal experiences that people have in relationship situations.  So much stronger, so much deeper.  It really altered my view of the D/s dynamic.  I know I am somewhat bubbling at this point, however I find the more I learn about D/s the more I appreciate it and like it.  I seriously considered being a pyschologist early in my college career and I am seriously enjoying learning the pyschology of the D/s relationship.

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