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Elizabeth666 -> Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 4:26:19 AM)

I found this interesting.

At work yesterday, i was talking to my boss and another co-worker. i have worked with my boss for a little over 2 years and we're pretty close, we've had many conversations over the past couple of years and we get along great. i've had some health concerns recently and i don't know how this ties in with our conversation yesterday, but here goes:

She knows about my "interests" and the type of relationship i have with Sir. The other co-worker that was there yesterday had said a while ago that since meeting Him i seem much perkier, happier etc. More girly LOL

Now, my boss told me that ever since i started seeing Him, the change in me has been different than what others see. i spent a little over 3 years with my ex bf and we had our ups and downs and was with him for a good chunk of the time that i have been working there. She said even when he and i were having problems i was still always perky and such.

She said that since i have been with Sir, she thinks i have not been my usual self. She says i'm listless, paler than usual, that i'm quieter and keep to myself more. She said i have dark circles under my eyes more often than not and i seem to be sick more than usual. When i was sick before, i would bounce back after a couple of days but not so much now. i don't know, i don't really see that. i think the problems i am having health wise are a coincedence (sp) and not a direct cause of my relationship.

Have i changed slightly? Yes, i won't deny that. i do have more quiet spells, i don't talk as much at work but i really don't think it has too much to do with the relationship.

i'm not too sure what to think, i appreciate her concern for my health and well-being but maybe this is something i should think about. i just admitted that i agree that i have changed, but is it a good change? or bad?

Is this type of relationship more than my body and mind can handle? i would like to think no. i think i have experienced some thoughts and emotions that are new to me, i have opened myself almost completely to another person and that is an adjustment. Are my feelings and reactions to things stronger because of this relationship? because it is very different from any relationship i have ever had? Hard to say.

How about you? i assume everyone here had a few vanilla relationships before getting into the BDSM world. Did you change? If so, how did you deal with it? Was it for the good? or bad?

And i seem to be rambling LOL

Apologies for that




ranja -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 4:39:32 AM)

With me it is rather the opposite... i find BDSM extremely funny... since i asked my Husband to be my Master and He indeed rose to the challenge and took charge, our life has become easier and much more filled with humor and laughter than when we were at vanilla loggerheads.

But i understand than many people take BDSM so serious that they do not see the funny side so much...
If your BDSM is all black and heavy maybe a bit of lightening up is in order?




Elizabeth666 -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 4:48:00 AM)

Hmmm, well, i don't think it's black and heavy. There are times when we get together that we don't play or anything, just relax and enjoy each other's company.

Maybe it's just the way i am handling it, being new to this and all. This is my first ever relationship like this and it has been an adjustment lol




ranja -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 5:30:48 AM)

ok, i obviously know nothing of your relationship so i can't really comment at all, but it does not seem right that you should be a bit down whilst your relationship is so new... most people feel euphoria when they are first in love...

some people think that their Master is 'above' them... and maybe they feel a bit down trodden as a sub... maybe having to 'put up' with all sorts of stuff because they are the obedient subbie... maybe they feel like they are giving more than they receive in return...

for me it would feel very tiring if i was 'below' Him... it would depress me if everything was about me serving Him... whereas i am always sub and He is always Master, He serves me just as much as i serve Him

good luck




sirsholly -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 6:10:55 AM)

Nowhere in your post do yo say you are happy with your partner. Can you put these two conflicting opinions on the back burner and ask yourself if you are truly happy with this person?




lovingpet -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 6:44:59 AM)

Agrees with Holly big time.

I will be blunt. All the changes in me since meeting my partner are not "good" changes. Let me explain a little... okay, a lot. I can catagorically state that I am more than abundantly happy with him and I don't forsee that changing. He and I fit together in a way that I could have never expected when things began. I know without a doubt that I am loved, treasured, cared for, and safe. I know he only wants good things for me.

That being said, some of those good things come with massive growing pains and actually will eventually turn my whole life upside down. For one thing, he has made me feel again. I have always been very able to feel with and for others, but I don't know that I have ever truly been able to feel for myself and know what I feel. It can really upset a lot of apple carts when the person who was once unshaken and "strong" suddenly has the occasional swing, explosion, meltdown, or whatever. He has been working on my self image and self esteem. It is very hard for me to hear compliments and very difficult to process someone enjoying me. Alongside that is the other side of self image, that of being honest with myself. Not everything about me is sweetness and light or warm, fuzzy, fluffy bunny type stuff. I have a dark side. I have things about myself that I either do not admit or have denied or repressed completely. Letting those out into the open with him and allowing them to be judged for what they are has been a very hard process that still continues. When they gain acceptance with him and are embraced, then I have to deal with the consequences of that. I have to deal with the fact that these things will actually gain expression. He has also touched upon a great many damaged areas from my past. To some extent, this was intentional, but for the most part it has just come in the course of being that close to another person. I can't keep the walls up and now these things have to be sorted and dealt with. It is a very difficult process.

As much turmoil as these things cause, I guess it is obvious that they are still good things. The way they affect my life (what the outside world can see), might be judged as negative. It has brought me to blows with a lot of people I once considered important to me, ended relationships, and changed still other relationships. It is resulting in a huge altering of my life circumstances in the short future. I will be moving from my hometown, uprooting my children, and merging households. I will have a whole new routine and set of expectations and my life's path will be permanently altered. As wild and negative as things seem right now, this is all working toward a state in which I am able to be myself, be at peace, and free of the stresses and worries that currently sap every drop of life out of me.

The bottom line is this. Are you happy? Other's opinions don't much matter in the grand scheme of things. Will you always be happy? Nope. There will be times of unrest in any relationship. On the whole, however, is he enlarging your life or stifling it? If he is a wonderful thing that happened in your life to you, then these other people's opinions be damned. I have one person...exactly one...who actively tries to convince me that my partner is bad for me. The reality is the changes in me alter how that person and I interact with each other in a way the person doesn't like. It is a healthy change, but the person doesn't like it because my requirements are higher (of and for myself and of the person). Needless to say, I don't give that opinion much credence.

OP, you've got to be secure in yourself, how you feel, and your own relationship. People's opinions will vary wildly and eventually you WILL encounter someone who thinks the whole thing is truly unhealthy and even a hallmark of mental illness. You will have to learn now to take people's opinions with a grain of salt and how to understand them for exactly what they really are whether those opinions be positive or negative. People's motivations are often not right. Most people aren't even aware of what is actually fueling opinions and judgements they make. You have to be wise enough to see past the opinion to the person and what function that opinion likely plays. I know it is hard. You have to make some solid determinations, even talk to your partner about this as he may have some insights to offer you. On the basis of that, you will know whether this kind of a relationship or this person is healthy for you. Take good care and live your own life.

lovingpet




angelikaJ -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 6:57:51 AM)

OP,

Your boss' observations compared to that of your co-worker's are interesting.

I wonder if your boss might have concerns over the nature of your relationship that could be coloring her view of things.
Perhaps she has some misconceptions or personal uncomfortability.

On the other hand, she knows you better than your co-worker does and she might be seeing beneath the surface.

edit: grammar




Elizabeth666 -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 7:18:48 AM)

i didn't even think to mention if i'm happy or not. i am and i care for Him deeply.

angelikaJ - i think part of it with my boss as well might be that she's feels a little Motherly towards me and just wants to make sure i'm not being hurt in any way.





DesFIP -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 7:31:08 AM)

Tell her you are happy.

Have you had a physical recently?
If so and there is a physical problem, then no, a relationship shouldn't be the cause. So that is probably coincidental.

Do you live with your partner? If so, does he smoke? Because allergies to that could cause the paleness, black circles, poor sleep causing listlissness. 

Does he sleep less than you and are you sleep deprived? The Man functions happily on 5/6 hours a night. I don't. It is difficult for me to assert myself and say tonight I am going to bed at 9 so I am rested when the alarm goes off at 6:15.  But truthfully I have always needed 9 hours sleep. If you could sleep as long as possible without being awakened how long would you sleep? Because that's your magic sleep number. And sleep deprivation can cause all the stuff she's mentioned. So if you need 8 hours but 2 of those 8 are being used for nonsleep fun activities it is still sleep deprivation. If you're on the phone or chat with him for 2 of those 8, it's still sleep deprivation.




ranja -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 8:39:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Elizabeth666

i didn't even think to mention if i'm happy or not. i am and i care for Him deeply.

angelikaJ - i think part of it with my boss as well might be that she's feels a little Motherly towards me and just wants to make sure i'm not being hurt in any way.




ah, well if that's the case everything is fine eh?




Elizabeth666 -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 5:36:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Tell her you are happy.

Have you had a physical recently?
If so and there is a physical problem, then no, a relationship shouldn't be the cause. So that is probably coincidental.

Do you live with your partner? If so, does he smoke? Because allergies to that could cause the paleness, black circles, poor sleep causing listlissness. 

Does he sleep less than you and are you sleep deprived? The Man functions happily on 5/6 hours a night. I don't. It is difficult for me to assert myself and say tonight I am going to bed at 9 so I am rested when the alarm goes off at 6:15.  But truthfully I have always needed 9 hours sleep. If you could sleep as long as possible without being awakened how long would you sleep? Because that's your magic sleep number. And sleep deprivation can cause all the stuff she's mentioned. So if you need 8 hours but 2 of those 8 are being used for nonsleep fun activities it is still sleep deprivation. If you're on the phone or chat with him for 2 of those 8, it's still sleep deprivation.


i think i should.

i a going for a physical in a week and a half, going to get everything looked at. i have no allergies and i think some of it is sleep deprivation, on average i sleep about 5 hours a night. i can never sleep past 6 am, no matter what time i go to bed at.





Elizabeth666 -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 5:45:21 PM)

Lovingpet - i was not at all upset or anything about what she said, i know she is concerned for me, and her concern is appreciated. i know she doesn't totally understand the dynamic of the relationship and i think she is trying her best to. :)

i do have to work on self-esteem, He knows that i have little of it. i think. as i said, that since this is very different than what i'm used to in a relationship i'm going to have to adjust and deal with the different emptions that stem from it. So far, He has been amazing and it's hard to believe that i have met someone who understands me. It's something i am going to have to get used to lol i have never opened myself up and submitted to anyone until Him.

i relaize that i have been quieter than usual, but i think i have just been more introverted recently, thinking about my relationship and seeing myself on a different level than i have before. i am learning more about myself as time passes and it's a little scary lol




DesFIP -> RE: Hmmm...any thoughts? (11/17/2009 7:46:10 PM)

So if you go to bed at midnight you awake at 6.
What happens if you move bedtime back half an hour, will you sleep the extra thirty minutes?
Keep doing it that way till you find out how much sleep you need.

But it's easier to do a shift change in sleep patterns if you move it only 15 minutes a night.

You're a lark! Shudder.
I'm an owl, stay up all night and sleep all day by choice, Except I never get that choice!




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