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What race do you prefer in a relationship

Latin

7% (3)

White

28% (11)

Black

13% (5)

Other

7% (3)

Does not matter

42% (16)

Total Votes : 38

(last vote on : 11/22/2009 9:10:07 PM)
(Poll ended: 11/23/2009 12:01:00 AM)

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/23/2009 3:40:27 PM

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Ohhh. I saw references to "the OP" and didn't know what it meant. Thanks for the clarification. Now I feel silly.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/23/2009 4:29:46 PM

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So yeah... I'd say there is a difference between what I find attractive and what my actual preference is. There are Asians, African Americans, occasionally Middle Easterners and Pacific Islanders that I find very attractive. However, the people I end up with tend to be white or Latin.

ill probably be spanked for saying more than three words, i usually do, but on this topic, i find Pacific Islanders, African ( there or American ;)) and Native Americans always pull my eye no matter what, but long term usually finds me with a caucasian or italian man. and ANYONE with a green eye will catch mine no matter where their line is from mmhmmmm ;)!!! so yea, the green eyed race is what floats my boat lol.
thats what you get for being a mixie ;)

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/23/2009 4:39:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: MissInara

Ohhh. I saw references to "the OP" and didn't know what it meant. Thanks for the clarification. Now I feel silly.

That's okay you'll learn *grins*.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/23/2009 10:53:48 PM

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ill probably be spanked for saying more than three words, i usually do, but on this topic, i find Pacific Islanders, African ( there or American ;)) and Native Americans always pull my eye no matter what, but long term usually finds me with a caucasian or italian man. and ANYONE with a green eye will catch mine no matter where their line is from mmhmmmm ;)!!! so yea, the green eyed race is what floats my boat lol.
thats what you get for being a mixie ;)

When I was in college, there was a guy on the floor who was totally gorgeous, black, and he had green eyes. He also was ROTC and incredibly buff. It was a co-ed floor, and we all used to 'accidentally' have our doors open when he'd be heading to and from the shower. Pity he acted like he had a stick up his.. you know...

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 4:42:09 AM

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The whole title is wrong. If she runs away, it just ain't gonna happen, not with me in my current state of fitness. No race and definitely no relationship.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 4:44:09 AM

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Could of sworn I'd seen you race for cookies.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 4:47:01 AM

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 5:27:47 AM

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The curious sentiment running through this thread is that, in the neo-liberal 'tolerant' world, preference against or even for specific races cannot be tolerated. Basically, for political reasons, we're supposed to lie that we have no preferences; if, ultimately, we end up in a relationship with someone of the same race, we attribute it to 'accident' or external socioeconomic boundaries.

Of course, like any legal pretext, there exists numerous exceptions that do not sum up to a logical whole.

For one, we are on some levels forced to admit that there are no races.

Next, we can prefer a race if it is our own and if we consider ourselves part of some minority class. No one really claims that an ethnic minority who prefers ethic minorities is racist.

Next, if you're of the dominant class but have an attraction to an historically subordinate class, you're labeled essentially as a fetishist, this position in a circular fashion promoting the very separation that tolerance is supposed to address.

Think about the word: 'tolerance'. I might not like you, I might wash my hands after being in contact with you (you the ethnic minority, usually in some subordinate position), but, I'm a 'progressive' -- I can tolerate you. This sentiment has dominated this thread. Your ideology has left you in an awkward position, wanting to embrace obvious cultural, ethnic, even physical differences while being forced not to admit their very existence.

'I cannot choose. I like humans. All humans, great and small!' -- what an obvious, convenient abstraction. Like the censorship 'bleep' on television, the very sound implies what it's hiding.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 5:32:37 AM

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I don't know Silence. I just like how dark skin looks on my very pale skin, and I like how whoozy "they" get me.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 5:55:53 AM

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Silence, I think the gist of your long post is that you think there's something wrong with us for not having/stating preferences? Does that sum it up?

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 6:00:45 AM

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Hi everyone,

I know a lot of people seem offended by this question, but I think it's actually valid. We all have our preferences. I think we've been hammered with anti-racism rhetoric so much that there is tremendous white guilt with having any preference around race - or at least saying anything about it.

I read something that challenged people to look around them. How many of your closest friends are like you? They look like you, have the same religion, are the same socio-economic class, etc. The reality is that generally like attracts like - for whatever reason.

I don't think there is anything wrong with saying, "Hey I have a race preference for my lovers." I think it is no different than saying I have a preference for body type, smokers, religious views, geography. In the end, a lot of what attracts us about race is pheromones and scent. It's not a derogation of other races or body types, religions, etc. It's just your preference.

Lots of people love lilies. They are beautiful. Nothing wrong with them. Me? Can't stand 'em. I can appreciate that they are beautiful, but I'd never bring them into my home. Just not my thing. But a sweet lil daisy? Yep. I'd have them everywhere! And lilacs, ohhhh goodness. Lilacs would be my joy! Just preference.

I believe I may be rambling - happens before I have coffee. If I made any sense, well that's good luck, isn't it?

Have a great day,
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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 7:13:28 AM

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I don't know Silence. I just like how dark skin looks on my very pale skin, and I like how whoozy "they" get me.

Sunshine, this is exactly the kind of answer that I think is appropriate. There are perfectly valid reasons to preference different types of people without being racially-biased. But to say "I like it all!" is obviously ideologically-based, and simply not true in most cases.

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Silence, I think the gist of your long post is that you think there's something wrong with us for not having/stating preferences? Does that sum it up?

Having preferences is unavoidable. Some people's preferences fall along racial lines -- not necessarily a problem. Some people's preferences fall along different lines -- also, fine, but in no ways an indication of having achieved some higher cultural 'plane'.

Your 'sum' excludes the point about tolerance in fact promoting the social divides it pretends to address. The solution is part of the problem, like diet caffeine-free coke, chocolate laxatives, 'save the rainforest' pencils, Che Guevara merchandise, Obama's peace prize, and all these other problems that come packed with their own solution. Notice how the famous 'We did it!' parallels this thread's 'I like all human beings'-- it is a symbolic gesture for the sake of symbolism, not backed up with historical or political reality.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 7:25:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

I don't know Silence. I just like how dark skin looks on my very pale skin, and I like how whoozy "they" get me.

Sunshine, this is exactly the kind of answer that I think is appropriate. There are perfectly valid reasons to preference different types of people without being racially-biased. But to say "I like it all!" is obviously ideologically-based, and simply not true in most cases.

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Silence, I think the gist of your long post is that you think there's something wrong with us for not having/stating preferences? Does that sum it up?

Having preferences is unavoidable. Some people's preferences fall along racial lines -- not necessarily a problem. Some people's preferences fall along different lines -- also, fine, but in no ways an indication of having achieved some higher cultural 'plane'.

Your 'sum' excludes the point about tolerance in fact promoting the social divides it pretends to address. The solution is part of the problem, like diet caffeine-free coke, chocolate laxatives, 'save the rainforest' pencils, Che Guevara merchandise, Obama's peace prize, and all these other problems that come packed with their own solution. Notice how the famous 'We did it!' parallels this thread's 'I like all human beings'-- it is a symbolic gesture for the sake of symbolism, not backed up with historical or political reality.

Sorry, Silence, you surpassed my attention span a long time ago.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 7:36:44 AM

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Sorry, Silence, you surpassed my attention span a long time ago.

not to mention my BS meter...

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 7:53:09 AM

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I don't know Silence. I just like how dark skin looks on my very pale skin, and I like how whoozy "they" get me.

Sunshine, this is exactly the kind of answer that I think is appropriate. There are perfectly valid reasons to preference different types of people without being racially-biased. But to say "I like it all!" is obviously ideologically-based, and simply not true in most cases.

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Silence, I think the gist of your long post is that you think there's something wrong with us for not having/stating preferences? Does that sum it up?

Having preferences is unavoidable. Some people's preferences fall along racial lines -- not necessarily a problem. Some people's preferences fall along different lines -- also, fine, but in no ways an indication of having achieved some higher cultural 'plane'.

Your 'sum' excludes the point about tolerance in fact promoting the social divides it pretends to address. The solution is part of the problem, like diet caffeine-free coke, chocolate laxatives, 'save the rainforest' pencils, Che Guevara merchandise, Obama's peace prize, and all these other problems that come packed with their own solution. Notice how the famous 'We did it!' parallels this thread's 'I like all human beings'-- it is a symbolic gesture for the sake of symbolism, not backed up with historical or political reality.

Please note -
The second quote is by Steven. Not by me.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 7:55:39 AM

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Sorry, Silence, you surpassed my attention span a long time ago.
not to mention my BS meter...

Well, I do know what he is talking about. However painting everyone with such a broad brush is incorrect.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 8:12:27 AM

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Some of these ideas come from the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek, who, as a writer, of books, does require something of an attention span. Here's one of the examples explained:

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The ultimate example is arguably a chocolate laxative, available in the US, with the paradoxical injunction: "Do you have constipation? Eat more of this chocolate!". Eat, that is, the very thing that causes constipation. The structure of the "chocolate laxative", of a product containing the agent of its own containment, can be discerned throughout today's ideological landscape...

..A similar structure is present in how we relate to capitalist profiteering: it is OK if it is counteracted with charitable activities - first you amass billions, then you return (part of) them to the needy. And does the same not hold even for democracy and human rights: human rights are OK if they are "rethought" to include torture and a permanent emergency state; democracy is OK if it is cleansed of its populist "excesses" and limited to those "mature" enough to practise it?

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 8:22:03 AM

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I don't give a fuck..

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As to the topic at hand, count me amongst those who is more concerned with gender (female please) than race. Beautiful women come in all shapes, sizes and colors.

Remember the Macarena? Of course you do, anything that annoying isn't forgoten. Still, I always liked the video becaue it was a parade of beautiful women of different colors.

Of course, ugly women come in all shapes, sizes and colors too, but there's nothing I can do about that.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 10:08:37 AM

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i think Silence is assuming that this is a serious thread.

It is in P&ORS and started by an OP that many of us simply DON'T take seriously. Hence so many flippant replies.

i don't race into relationships, although sometimes i get swept up in a relationship.

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RE: What race do you prefer in a relationship - 11/24/2009 10:14:38 AM

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But to say "I like it all!" is obviously ideologically-based, and simply not true in most cases.

Are you suggesting that I can't be sexually attracted to women from several different races?

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