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mnottertail -> RE: David Obey Calls for War Tax on Wealthy (11/25/2009 11:06:37 AM)

some of those people have short fingers, and might not grasp a concept as advanced as twenty, laddie buck.

Ron




willbeurdaddy -> RE: David Obey Calls for War Tax on Wealthy (11/25/2009 11:08:48 AM)

As noted in another thread the high tax brackets were a fiction, more than offset by tax shelters. The effective marginal tax rate for the very high income taxpayers was well below 40%. that can be seen very clearly after each successive tax reform act where the revenues from the highest taxpayers increased within 3 years at the most (usually immediately, and far too early for the bs claims of bracket creep significantly increasing who was in the highest brackets) as those shelters played themselves out.




Brain -> RE: David Obey Calls for War Tax on Wealthy (11/26/2009 9:15:56 AM)

Really? Read ths:


Companies sitting on piles of cash - washingtonpost.com

5 Nov 2009 ... Small firms having difficulty finding loans to grow, hire ... Some companies are sitting on cash because their war chests are overseas, ... of course, will channel money to other parts of the world, not the U.S. economy. ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/05/AR2009110505221.html


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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

This is silly - there arent any wealthy people in the US, otherwise they would be employing people and the employment rate wouldnt be so high. If there's nothing to trickle down, how can it be taxed to pay for the military?

E





popeye1250 -> RE: David Obey Calls for War Tax on Wealthy (11/27/2009 10:32:14 AM)

Here's an idea, how's about the congress of which David Obey is a part, stop spending money we don't have?
But, that would take "discipline" wouldn't it?




AnimusRex -> RE: David Obey Calls for War Tax on Wealthy (11/27/2009 2:46:40 PM)

Actually, rich people pay less in taxes than poor people:

"America’s most affluent 1 percent now pay, on average, just 6.4 percent of their incomes in state and local taxes. But they actually pay even less than that, since they can deduct their state and local taxes from their federal tax bill. The state and local tax burden on America’s rich, after taking this offset into account, drops to 5.2 percent.

Middle-income families — to be precise, those families who make up the middle fifth of America’s income distribution — pay, after the federal offset, 9.4 percent of their incomes in total state and local taxes.

America’s poorest families pay even more. Tax collectors take 10.9 percent of the incomes of households in the nation’s bottom 20 percent, more than double the share they take from the incomes of the nation’s top 1 percent."


Full article here

And although rich people never did pay the full 90% rate, the gap between rich and poor was smaller than it is now. It is a fact that the rich are getting richer, and poor and middle class are getting poorer.

Sorry- as Reagan observed, "facts are stubborn things."




AnimusRex -> RE: David Obey Calls for War Tax on Wealthy (11/27/2009 2:49:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Here's an idea, how's about the congress of which David Obey is a part, stop spending money we don't have?
But, that would take "discipline" wouldn't it?


Indeed it would; how much of the defense department budget do you propose we cut?




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