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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:00:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: moutas

A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?
They don't hesit to break the general meaning...
I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.
I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?
I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!
Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!



Long ago, some wise women explained to me that my actions reflect upon me, even to those i may not realize are looking. In other words, watch your steps, others are watching too. I totally get that. I do try and keep that in the back of my mind. I sometimes fall short of that goal... if i were able to master myself, i would not seek another.

my own question, perhaps, might be why the actions of someone who identifies as a slave would bother any Dominant this much.

You like subtle and tactful slaves. Its good that you know what you like. Other men like other things in girls or boys. Being a slave isnt being a doormat, but being a man/woman who longs to serve the one who can claim ownership of their leash.

At your age, im hoping i dont have to explain what that means.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:00:46 PM   
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Should I hand over my password/keys/bank account/balls to somebody I met online?


Yes please.......you can keep your balls though



Lack of storage space?
 
 
Understandable given the room they seem to take up.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:11:55 PM   
zephyroftheNorth


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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Should I hand over my password/keys/bank account/balls to somebody I met online?


Yes please.......you can keep your balls though



Lack of storage space?
 
 
Understandable given the room they seem to take up.


Well I didn't want to say anything but.....


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:27:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: moutas

A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?
They don't hesit to break the general meaning...
I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.
I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?
I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!
Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!



Long ago, some wise women explained to me that my actions reflect upon me, even to those i may not realize are looking. In other words, watch your steps, others are watching too. I totally get that. I do try and keep that in the back of my mind. I sometimes fall short of that goal... if i were able to master myself, i would not seek another.

my own question, perhaps, might be why the actions of someone who identifies as a slave would bother any Dominant this much.

You like subtle and tactful slaves. Its good that you know what you like. Other men like other things in girls or boys. Being a slave isnt being a doormat, but being a man/woman who longs to serve the one who can claim ownership of their leash.

At your age, im hoping i dont have to explain what that means.


That was explained to me as well tazzygirl, and i too try to live by that. With or without a Dom. i try to be a reflection of those I have served or was married too, but that is just me. I would not want to represent their teachings in a bad light. Yes, i too can get itchy to blast some, but i always have to ask myself for what purpose? To me a Dom who needs to blast a whole group of people, would not be worth my serving them, in the first place. I been fortunate to learn that these types you don't want to serve. In that mental set, I find it is best to let them do what they must, and for myself to stay clear off them. Nothing they can teach me, that would help me to be a better s-type. Also as stated putting a title to one doesn't make them so, so much of their behaviors have become red flags for me. I am glad for that, helps to weave through the many to find the one.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:37:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: moutas

A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?
They don't hesit to break the general meaning...
I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.
I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?
I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!
Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!


I am a slave to my owner, nubian muscle. I show him respect. I serve him without question. If I served every man that slapped on a “dom” label like I serve him, he would definitely take issue. He respects my opinion, my thoughts, my spunk. He allows me to express myself openly in these forums with the knowledge that he is the only one other than the mods that I answer to.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:43:25 PM   
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I was about to start a thread myself concerning the amount of extremely rude and aggressive slaves. Some even ordered me to leave this site after I responded to postings they or their friends made. I totally disagree with that users calling themselves slaves can say what they want as long as one does not own them. I read owners and slaves claiming the slave always has to keep in mind what the owner would think of their outings and the slave should not say things that would discredit the owner, yet I usually notice the opposite. It is rediculous that a slave would even think of publicly questioning the words of a dominant and I would not tolerate this behaviour. The same counts for subs/slaves discussing the sexual drive of her master and/or making fun of their master in these forums.



How do you know if something discredits a posters owner unless their owner publically says so?

I would never publically question MY dominant, my owner but I do question others. Who are you to dictate how I or anyone else speaks or posts?

Why do you think that YOUR issues about discussing sexual issues or any other issue belong to every dominant?

Why do you feel that discussing an issue is the same as making fun or making light of an issue?

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 2:56:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I totally disagree with that users calling themselves slaves can say what they want as long as one does not own them.



Why do you disagree with this?  Are you planning to form a sort of 'holding pen' where those of us who haven't been claimed can be supervised by you personally?    I answer to no one, and will unless the circumstances are correct.  Until then, I am Mistress of myself, and how dare you tell me how to treat my own property?  (namely, me)




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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 3:32:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: moutas

A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?
They don't hesit to break the general meaning...
I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.
I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?
I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!
Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!


A slave with an opinion? A slave that is passionate about something imagine that? pigs are flying and the world is comming to an end.
If you are looking for a door mat, I hear k-mart is having a special sale. I am sorry but you are confused, I don't know where you got your definition of of a slave, but whoever has done you a grave injustice.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 4:03:48 PM   
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Wanna know the stupid thing? If I didn't put some kind of disclaimer here, saying "dear reader, if the above definitions don't sound like you then I wasn't talking about you", every sub/slave/bottom who read it would take offense.


Except maybe those of us who did the tired old sarcastic disclaimer thing ourselves 10-15 years ago, realized it did no good and just made enemies, and learned to take into account the very human behavior of taking things personally (shrug). Or I could be totally full o' shit. ;)

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:00:01 PM   
Eigenaar


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Status: offline 		I gave my opinion and went for a few hours. Coming back to this thread I face users addressing me in a hostile manner, claiming I misread, change my story and calling me sparky and dude and stupid and disrespectful, assuming I claim they should listen to me and asking me who I think I am and what I plan to do about (their) worthless behaviour. I do not recognize myself in your words and when I misread it will not be anything on this site.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:18:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I gave my opinion and went for a few hours. Coming back to this thread I face users addressing me in a hostile manner, claiming I misread, change my story and calling me sparky and dude and stupid and disrespectful, assuming I claim they should listen to me and asking me who I think I am and what I plan to do about (their) worthless behaviour. I do not recognize myself in your words and when I misread it will not be anything on this site.


In a word - bullshit.
 
No one has been hostile towards you, though I wouldn't be surprised, or care, if they had, given your history.
 
What they HAVE been is tolerant of your rant and offered their opinions on your post, which you REQUESTED.
 
If you are unable to take opinions which you have asked for, you probably need to go acquaint yourself with a mirror and ask yourself -
 
"Am I really dominant in nature and true to myself, or someone whose sole intent is to delude myself and then whine to the world when I don't get my way."

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:20:07 PM   
Fitznicely


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ORIGINAL: CaringandReal


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ORIGINAL: Fitznicely
Wanna know the stupid thing? If I didn't put some kind of disclaimer here, saying "dear reader, if the above definitions don't sound like you then I wasn't talking about you", every sub/slave/bottom who read it would take offense.


Except maybe those of us who did the tired old sarcastic disclaimer thing ourselves 10-15 years ago, realized it did no good and just made enemies, and learned to take into account the very human behavior of taking things personally (shrug). Or I could be totally full o' shit. ;)


Would that many of your fellow countrymen felt the same way


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:21:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi my name is Zeph and I'm an aggressive sub....or I have opinions of my own...I can never tell the two apart *looks confused*

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:26:07 PM   
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Hi my name is Zeph and I'm an aggressive sub....


We know.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:27:33 PM   
zephyroftheNorth


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

Hi my name is Zeph and I'm an aggressive sub....


We know.


why you little *^%^*^*^*%% I'll tell you a thing or two about saying such things.....yep aggressive *grins*


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:27:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

*looks confused*


We know this too.

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:28:59 PM   
zephyroftheNorth


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ORIGINAL: EbonyWood

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

*looks confused*


We know this too.


I'm sorry is this pick on Zeph day? I thought it was Thanksgiving.....


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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:29:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I didn't bother to read through the majority of the responses but as a Dom and owner of a slave, I still recognize that my slave is still a person with thoughts, intelligence, feelings and yes, even a will of her own; even though she has given control over her will to me. Hell, there are even plenty of times when I am right and she is wrong and I freely admit that. A dom/domme who doesn't think a sub has anything smart to say or something they can learn from is pretty immature and stupid, in my opinion.

Too many "doms/dommes" think that just because they call themselves that, someone who is labeled as a sub/slave owes them reverence in addition to respect. Reverence is reserved for the "dom/domme" that that person has pledged themselves to, not for every person who slaps themselves with a title. Too often "doms/dommes" have no control over themselves, yet expect to be able to control someoene else, whether it is their property or not. That, IMO, is just an ego trip and a sign of a weak individual.

What people need to remember is that a submissive is a submissive whether they have a dominant or not, but a dominant CANNOT be a dominant without someone to be dominant over.

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ORIGINAL: moutas

A long while ago I put down here a little text and there were a little inexactitude about myself and I saw a flight of aggressive slaves(?) to destroy all my thought and all the interest of the subject...?
They don't hesit to break the general meaning...
I wonder what is the subtility of this behavior?
Very often I see that same behavior here with other topics.
I wonder why slave girls think that here it is "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral"?
I also wonder if they merit the name "slave"!
Sorry, I like subtle and tactful slaves…!



< Message edited by nubianmuscle -- 11/26/2009 5:32:29 PM >

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:30:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Eigenaar

I gave my opinion and went for a few hours. Coming back to this thread I face users addressing me in a hostile manner, claiming I misread, change my story and calling me sparky and dude and stupid and disrespectful, assuming I claim they should listen to me and asking me who I think I am and what I plan to do about (their) worthless behaviour. I do not recognize myself in your words and when I misread it will not be anything on this site.



Could you point out to me the posts that YOU took as hostile or disrespectful to you?

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RE: WHY SLAVES ARE OFTEN AGGRESSIVES? - 11/26/2009 5:31:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: nubianmuscle

I didn't bother to read through the majority of the responses but as a Dom and owner of a slave, I still recognize that my slave is still a person with thoughts, intelligence, feelings and yes, even a will of her own; even though she has given control over her will to me.

Too many "doms/dommes" think that just because they call themselves that, someone who is labeled as a sub/slave owes them reverence in addition to respect. Reverence is reserved for the "dom/domme" that that person has pledged themselves to, not for every person who slaps themselves with a title. Too often "doms/dommes" have no control over themselves, yet expect to be able to control someoene else, whether it is their property or not. That, IMO, is just an ego trip and a sign of a weak individual.

What people need to remember is that a submissive is a submissive whether they have a dominant or not, but a dominant CANNOT be a dominant without someone to be dominant over.



Is it still okay if I adore you?

< Message edited by zephyroftheNorth -- 11/26/2009 5:42:05 PM >

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