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Wickad -> Community (11/28/2009 2:08:36 PM)

Greetings,

I have a question for those who are active in their local communities.

How do you deal with the outright lies about your person that go on behind (and sometimes sideways of - lol) your back?

Recently, I have been made aware of a great many 'interesting' things being said about me that are absolutely untrue. I'm not really sure where these are coming from but I am a strong minded, independent, verbal person so I am pretty sure of the 'why' of it all, but I am still left wondering 'what to do now'? A great deal of our little patch of kinkyland is online (low population and vast distances) and don't have the opportunity to meet me in person to form their own independent opinions. It saddens me that many of these people might not attend something because of the misinformation that has been spread.

What to do?

Wickad




Underumam -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 2:21:57 PM)

What can you do when that stuff happens? Not much I'm afraid. If one tries to speak against it, they assume there's something to hide, if nothing is done, they assume its true. I've been there, done that and have the tee-shirt. lol. I guess its very important to believe in ourselves, and stand strong in the face of adversity.

I hope you can pass through this quickly, and without serious detriment.

Bonne chance!




Wickad -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 2:26:09 PM)

Greetings Underumam,

Yup, yup!! Those where the two options that I saw as well and I also didn't like the outcome of either - lol. I was hoping someone might have a third option - lol.

Thirds anyone .... Thirds ....

Wickad




Acer49 -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 2:31:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Wickad

Greetings,

I have a question for those who are active in their local communities.

How do you deal with the outright lies about your person that go on behind (and sometimes sideways of - lol) your back?

Recently, I have been made aware of a great many 'interesting' things being said about me that are absolutely untrue. I'm not really sure where these are coming from but I am a strong minded, independent, verbal person so I am pretty sure of the 'why' of it all, but I am still left wondering 'what to do now'? A great deal of our little patch of kinkyland is online (low population and vast distances) and don't have the opportunity to meet me in person to form their own independent opinions. It saddens me that many of these people might not attend something because of the misinformation that has been spread.

What to do?

Wickad


This kind of stuff goes on all the time. to your friends, they will or should believe in your innocense. to those that don't know you, some will give you the benefit of the doubt, for those that don't there is no loss as they are not worth your time anyway. I seriously doubt that you are so important that someone who not attend an event (no disrespect intended) simply because of you




Underumam -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 2:34:40 PM)

I guess sometimes there is no third option. I personally don't worry too much about gossip, as the purveyors usually meet with the fruits of the seeds they've sown. It's great fun to watch too!  lol.




devilishpixie -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 3:52:27 PM)

I personally take it as flattery that someone takes the time to talk about me. Unless they are being totally out of line or hurting my family or loved ones I don't bother with the childish rumors or games. The people who know me, know me those that don't really don't matter to me.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 4:23:49 PM)

See personally I would go with the say nothing option. Let them say/think what they will. People who do that kind of thing aren't worth a second thought.

Zeph




allthatjaz -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 4:27:57 PM)




Some people love nothing more than a bit of juicy gossip and if they are not doing it about you they will be doing it about someone else. Sadly people like this get some sort of high from trying to bad mouth another person and the gossipers feel in a safer and more united place.
Don't believe for a minute that people will stay away from a function because your going to be there and they don't like the gossip they have heard. It takes more than a bit of gossip about a person to keep them away from something they intended to go to.
If they do stay away then its their loss and your gain.
Don't rise to it. Just keep smiling and stick with the nice people




Drifa -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 5:38:58 PM)

Obviously someone told you something about these untruths. When Person A says such a thing in your hearing, turn to them immediately and ask them where exactly they got this information. Press firmly until they name name Person B as the originator.

The key on your end is to stay absolutely calm and unemotional about it, very businesslike. You know how it is when your boss calls you into their office to discuss work performance with you? You are playing the "boss" role here and you want the same professionalism. If you allow yourself to become emotional, cry, or be shrill, it becomes very easy to dismiss what you are saying. If you are calm and professional, then you have put them on the spot.

Next, go to Person B. Explain to them that Person A mentioned that Person B had said X, Y, and Z about you. Then say, "I wanted to come to you directly to see if that is, in fact, what you said, or if there has been a misunderstanding." And see what they say. If Person B says the rumor or lies started with Person C, repeat the process and talk directly to Person C about it.

Most people, dominant or sub, would generally rather have their toenails pulled out with white hot pliers than be confronted verbally this way. They may lie and deny, but if EVERY TIME these issues come up you have these talks, it provides an incredibly powerful incentive to stop the 5th grade gosspiy bullshit. Don't let a single mention pass, stay firm, polite, and calm during the talks.






LadyPact -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 5:56:46 PM)

To tell you the truth, I'd shrug it off.

Even as active as I like to be in the community, I don't get involved in the gossip, drama, political, on, and on, and on that can happen,  In fact, if there's too much of that happening, I'll go lengths to go to the community in the next area over.  As I told someone just last weekend, I would much rather drive twice as far to go to events that I know are going to be consistent and don't have the bs hanging over them.

On a personal level, these things can be addressed *without* involving the rest of the community.  Talk to the individuals that you believe this effects.  Do so through email or whatever, but don't bring the drama to the floor of one of the areas events.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 8:17:30 PM)

There's been a festival of llamashit in our neck of the woods going on since summertime. I have found out that I have HATERS!! Little Me!! Evidently I am the biggest gossip in the East! (East side of Michigan). AND I am stuck up and snobby! There is another delightful rumour too, but it relates to a specific incident.

Now, I has a posse. NO ONE in my circle of friends has told me that any of this was going on, so I can only surmise that those who barely know me or do not know me at all are spreading the chit. What can I do to stop the "talk", what of it there is? Nothing. Who knows what other fantasies are being spread about me. I cannot stop the lies. Really, I do not care to. For one thing, HATERS!! It's kind of exciting that someone actually is talking about me behind my back, I always figure I go through the social world without leaving much of a ripple. For another, some folks gotta talk. It makes them feel good. The tough part for me is when someone who first met me maybe 14 yrs ago says to me after a munch, "Wow, you are nothing like I thought you were! I always figured you had your nose in the air!". Okayyyyyyyyy.....





Wickad -> RE: Community (11/28/2009 11:52:54 PM)

(fast reply)

Greetings,

Thank-you everyone for all the wonderful advice.

Just to clear something up ... the only thing happening in my neck of the woods is a munch, that I started. There are other folks who are looking to get stuff rolling here and I fully support them. Prior to this some people have boycotted events in an attempt to punish the organizers for socializing with people 'they' didn't like and then blamed the person they didn't like for making it so they couldn't go. This is a very small group and it is a real possibility that some folks would do the same thing in this case. *shakes head* This is the weirdest place I've ever lived.

However, that all being said, I agree with most of the posters that there is nothing I can do about other people's behaviour. The only thing I can do is take the higher road and rise above it all. I also refuse to not attend something because I think it might impact the event negatively.

Thank-you everyone for all your input. This thread has really helped me clear my head about this issue. I guess I always knew what to do but just felt a bit overwhelmed by the animosity of this gossip. Thank-you for bolstering my courage and reminding me that I am above this kind of base commentary.

Wickad




earthycouple -> RE: Community (11/29/2009 12:20:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: devilishpixie

I personally take it as flattery that someone takes the time to talk about me. Unless they are being totally out of line or hurting my family or loved ones I don't bother with the childish rumors or games. The people who know me, know me those that don't really don't matter to me.



ditto




Underumam -> RE: Community (11/29/2009 12:22:16 PM)

If nobody's talking about you, you must not be doing very much...lol.




DesFIP -> RE: Community (11/29/2009 12:38:50 PM)

You could ask your friends who is spreading lies about you. Slander is actionable if your find this sufficiently disturbing.




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