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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/3/2009 11:29:15 AM   
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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/3/2009 12:01:49 PM   
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Just to be absolutely clear about my intent:

Risk-Aware-Consensual-Kink, or at least that's what I've learned that acronym means . . . .

I post Jay's essay about the medical realities of breath play, the physiology / biochemistry / & etc of what goes on with interference of oxygen delivery to the brain, in order that that risk awareness is part of the formula.

To my mind, one cannot be properly practicing R.A.C.K. without knowing the risks, & the fuller the knowledge the better (in my book) . . .. . .

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ORIGINAL: Avralivia

I have tried almost every type of breath play going I think...

I practice R.A.C.K more than S.S.C, and enjoy a lot of edge play.

Now people can tell me it isnt safe as much as they want, but I know a huge amount of people enjoy breathplay in all its forms.

As for The OP I would say I doubt you will have any luck finding someone to play with plastic bags with you, it was a terribly sparse and seemingly unintelligent post.  Do try harder!





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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/3/2009 12:14:41 PM   
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Kia, thank you for posting that article. Whether a person follows Wiseman's advice or not...its good to have out there. In this one instance, i have to agree with him as a medical professional and as a kinky thang. It is risky to the nth degree. People still do it. And it becomes ordinary and people start treating it like its any other form of edgeplay....and then people die.



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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/3/2009 8:00:59 PM   
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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/3/2009 10:12:29 PM   
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To my mind, one cannot be properly practicing R.A.C.K. without knowing the risks, & the fuller the knowledge the better (in my book) . . .. . .


I'm so glad you posted that article.  I've a small amount of experience with some very light breath play (with partner only), and have been interested in exploring it in a little more depth.  Now that you've posted that I think I'll avoid doing so.  Thank you so much!

Anne

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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/3/2009 11:15:43 PM   
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(CNJDom here) OP:  I know I'm probably going to hate myself, since I really don't want to promote this form of edge-play at all, but if you are going to insist on playing with plastic bags; at least consider this alternative:  Take a nice bag like a large gallon-sized glad bag or a packaging bag...something with substance and some rigidity (not just some Walmart bag laying about).  At the bottom of this bag, take a pair of scissors and cut approximately an inch off at a forty-five degree angle in the corners, which will allow for air to come in and not be a sealed death-trap. 

You can then pretty much do what you like without the actual threat of dying right off.  Of course they need to trust and be willing to submit to this or you will be a lonely person quickly.  The mind-fuck: (Type-A personalities will enjoy), would be to blindfold them and then slip the modified bag over the head.  They can feel the plastic, you can make it even feel like it's sealed somewhat about there neck... all the senses say ALERT:  "bag over the head", but there will be available air to sustain safely.  This alternative can be a bit like non-alcoholic beer:  The senses say it's real, but in reality it's not...then you are faced with being content with it.  IF you are not content and you have to have the real thing even though it's not good for you, then that is up to you and your choice.  But the odds are, you'll have something go wrong with breath play and it just isn't worth it. 

As I have stated before in another post, we already had a couple die locally in the area that had years of experience, and the tragedy was too much to bare for the Dominant once he found that he couldn't revive her.  He killed himself right beside her, adding to that awful outcome to a routine session of breath-play for them.  We play dangerous games, and some of more than others, but it is still dangerous no matter how safe we try to be.  I just feel that the risks outweigh the safety factor here, and it is something that is a wrong path to go down, no matter how many times you've gone down that way.   

And one last thing:  Jay Wiseman knows what he's talking about and I would recommend it as good reading for those getting into playing with others.  He is very informative on not only breath play, but impact play, bondage risks, and other do's and don'ts.  SM 101, and his other books will have something for every level of kinkster to take something from.  Now with Christmas and Hanuka around the corner....you can get these books and others like it even from Amazon (what a wonderful world we live in!).  Take care, and good luck.


< Message edited by PrimalConsonance -- 12/3/2009 11:28:03 PM >


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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/4/2009 6:33:20 AM   
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Take a nice bag like a large gallon-sized glad bag or a packaging bag...something with substance and some rigidity (not just some Walmart bag laying about). 



Indeed.  In fact, I would recommend nothing farther down on the retail scale than a Saks or Neiman Marcus bag.  Imagine how humiliating it would be for the surviving family members if you were found asphyxiated with a Dollar Store bag over your head.

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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/4/2009 7:46:02 AM   
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Well...actually, plastic bags are pretty efficient, cheap, and believe it or not, super easy to rip open, though amazingly, did you know that people almost always concentrate on removing the duct tape around the neck instead of ripping it open?

Strange is it not how the brain works?

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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/4/2009 4:50:05 PM   
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Is you sure about that?



Yes she are :P

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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/4/2009 8:45:42 PM   
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Delightfully *rowwwrrrr*, woman . . ..



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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

...I would recommend nothing farther down on the retail scale than a Saks or Neiman Marcus bag.  Imagine how humiliating it would be for the surviving family members if you were found asphyxiated with a Dollar Store bag over your head.


Do Prada or Manolo Blahnik even do plastic bags? Or Givenchy or Christian Dior or Isaac Mizrahi? Isn't plastic kinda downscale? I keep picturing fancy-schmancy handmade paper bags with cutting edge printing & etc . . . . .

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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/4/2009 9:36:16 PM   
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That's an excellent question you raise.  I shall have to do some shopping soon.  Purely for research purposes, of course.

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RE: plastic bag breathplay - 12/5/2009 12:07:03 PM   
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*smirkles*

I look forward to your report . . . .

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ORIGINAL: Venatrix

That's an excellent question you raise.  I shall have to do some shopping soon.  Purely for research purposes, of course.

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