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MistressMisty122 -> subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/2/2004 11:31:13 PM)
I see this as the exact opposite of worshipping a womans body and feminity..yet I hear it from almost all the subs out there! This tells me they are craving a man and a strap on or dildo has nothing to do with 'me'. Its more about servicing 'them'. I find this highly disrespectful. Is this the norm or just subs Ive run into? Thanks, I appreciate whatever info you can provide.

subdreams1955 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/3/2004 5:57:19 AM)
It's been my experience that many Dommes want to use the strap-on and want to see some man-on-man action. I was in contact with one Domme who has a primary sub but she doesn't like to give blow jobs. One of her secondary sub's duties would be to perform oral sex on the primary. I'm sure there are guys out there who want it but I know there are probably an equal number of Dommes who want to give it too. I think it may be a way of expressing their dominance and power.

stef -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/3/2004 7:49:29 AM)
Interesting ideas. Some straight men like anal sex and some don't. The ones who do like it aren't gay or looking for a man. It's got nothing to do with disrespecting you, your body or your femininity. If you don't like it, don't do it. Simple, eh? BTW, how do women who like using a strap-on fit in your world view? Do they all want to be men? ~stef

LadyAngelika -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/3/2004 5:51:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sfgrrl BTW, how do women who like using a strap-on fit in your world view? Do they all want to be men? Good one stef! I use a strap-on as it has cured me from penis envy! <sarcastic grin>` I actually just love it, I love the humiliating a man as he receives my strap-on. I often times write whore over their ass with my red lipstick. Fun times! I love the role reversal it creates as well. They have a cock, but it’s useless here. I have a bigger one and it doesn’t ever lose its erection. My cock out performs theirs every time. Hence my cock is superior. I do like watching hot man on man sex, but then again, I’m a voyeur. When I use a strap-on, I do not feel as any less myself, or any less a woman for what it’s worth. Then again, I don’t have that narrow a view of gender. Neither do you, right stef? ;) And yes, shocking, breaking news: I actually love giving men head. When done the way I do, it’s a very empowering feeling. I know this makes many male subs uncomfortable because they see it as non-dominant… that is until they actually experience it. I never said I let them cum from it <weg>. Isn’t life much more fun when you make your own rules? - LA

proudsub -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/3/2004 7:35:38 PM)
Here's another thread that might interest you: what does a mistress get out of a strapon

Sundew02 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/4/2004 2:33:47 AM)
My being femininity is not in question when I enjoy the use of my strapon or a dildo for that matter. It find if they get something out of it. We all want to have our G spots tickled now and then. Female or male, gay, straight, bi or poly the person does not lose their gender identity or confuse the gender of their partner by partaking of anal play. Just remember the lube! Sundew

MistressMisty122 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/4/2004 3:49:24 PM)
Well I see submission as being a servant to MY desires and things that please ME. I have no interest in tickling their g-spot. When a sub comes out and asks for me to use a strap on or stick something up his ass thats ME servicing HIM...period. If hes just wanting to be serviced then he needs to see a PRO or pay someone for that. So sfgrrl, As for my idea of the Dommes who enjoy using strap ons..more power to you...its just not my thing. I do enjoy seeing 2 guys together but thats solely on my terms, and would only be with a long term sub...if ever.

sting516 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/6/2004 4:06:35 AM)
Mistress Misty, For me, taking the strap on is more about humiliation than wanted to be fucked by a man...knowing that i'm doing something against my nature for the pleasure of the Domme...i've never been fucked by a man, though i have sucked cock for a Domme's enjoyment...it's nothing i seek outside of that setting...and i've only done it one time, though, if i was owned by a Domme, i'd do it again...again, only if it was something SHE wanted. As always, your mileage may vary. sting

MistressZanthia -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/6/2004 2:39:57 PM)
quote: If hes just wanting to be serviced then he needs to see a PRO or pay someone for that. So sfgrrl, As for my idea of the Dommes who enjoy using strap ons..more power to you...its just not my thing. I do enjoy seeing 2 guys together but thats solely on my terms, and would only be with a long term sub...if ever. Good point Misty. I have no problem with professional subs requesting these things, none whatsoever. But I have little interest in doing these activities with my personal boy. He's for my pleasure (and not that I don't enjoy the strap-on, I really do) but it's not an activity I care to do at home with him. We have other things I like more... more personal things I don't do with professional subs, like making love and such, oops, did I say something vanilla? slaps self As for forced bi, I don't know who started this trend, but I've a strong notion it was a male who needed an excuse to suck cock, because god forbid he admit he's bi or gay. I had the pleasure of watching a couple of my gay friends suck each other one night (back in the 80's when I was 18) and though it was interesting to watch it didn't really do a thing for me. I've shared sucking a cock with a boy, in a threesome or two and it was fun but not a super big deal. I have however had some interesting experiences with submales who've requested (pro-boys) forced bi. I have noted that they felt they needed permission or Mistress's approval to do the acts requested of them (mainly blowjobs, some anal) and once they had that "female" permission they felt they didn't need it anymore. They were free to go out and find Masters and play around with other men. I lost more than one submissive to the gay side via giving them permission or forcing them to do bi stuff. So on that note: I will NEVER force bi, coerce bi, or even date a bi submissive ever again. I only consider the %100 hetro boys for my personal subs. If a boy has one fantasy about forced bi... I recommend he doesn't bother contacting me unless he wants my professional services. One other thing, I've noticed when contacting boys here and on other sites. Many boys put "bi" or "curious" on their profiles, who aren't. They seem to believe that saying they're "bi" or "curious" makes them more valuable or desirable as submissives to us Dommes... boys, the monogamous ladies who don't share well with others (I am one) who may be your dream Domme, would prefer you be honest. Unless you truly have a desire to do these things AND would do them of your own volition (not under orders of your Mistress) that you refrain from stating it as something you'd do. Otherwise you are overstating your bounds and if pressed by one who wanted to do these things, you might be a let down too.

monsieur42 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/6/2004 4:28:39 PM)
[8\|] Am I glad to see that there are Dommes out there who do not wish to have bi-subs. (Thanks for your comments and opinions Mistress Zanthia). However, being a 100% straight sub, the strap-on still pinches a sensitive string for me as it represents the symbol of an act that is against my nature and therefore a source of humiliation, that I accept if it is what my Mistress wants to impose on my body. Bi-sex is in my hard limits but strap-ons are in my soft-limits, a domain where I accept to be stretched (pun fully intended[;)]). Monsieur42

stef -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/7/2004 3:19:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressMisty122 Well I see submission as being a servant to MY desires and things that please ME. I have no interest in tickling their g-spot. When a sub comes out and asks for me to use a strap on or stick something up his ass thats ME servicing HIM...period. If hes just wanting to be serviced then he needs to see a PRO or pay someone for that. That's perfectly reasonable. I can't help but wonder why you feel it's necessary to refer to people with such colorful terms as "closet fags" and the like? Judging from your journal entries, you appear to have a propensity for insulting that which you either disagree with or do not understand. It's an immensely unattractive personality trait. I wish you luck finding that wealthy sub. ~stef

lil_d -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/8/2004 10:43:11 PM)
This is my first time posting on here, tho I've enjoyed many posts I've read in the past. I am bi and a switch, so I may have a unique perspective here. The reason I and my Domme enjoy strap-on sex is because we both really enjoy it. For us it's not a humiliation thing, just something we both really, really enjoy. But even if she didn't enjoy it, I suspect that she would do it for me anyway. Not because she is "servicing" me, but rather because ours is a living, breathing relationship. As much fun as it is to fantasize that a Femdom relationship is all about HER, it's about US. Sometimes she does things for me because she loves me, and I do the same for her. This does nothing to diminish the powerful D/s dynamic that we share together. As for forced bi, I equate that to a forced rape...fun in a fantasy, but could never be my bread and butter. Sometimes in fantasy, it is fun to be forced, but anyone who requires being "forced" all the time to do something that they enjoy is in some serious denial. I know that as a top, I could not have an ongoing relationship with someone who always had to be forced...there needs to be times when we can turn off the roles. I couldn't see myself in a relationship with anyone for whom the thought of having sex with me was humiliating, tho I will gladly humiliate him during sex :) Darren aka lil_d aka princess

LadyAngelika -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/9/2004 3:26:16 PM)
quote: As for forced bi... Ok. Two issues are being confounded here. Sodomy & homosexuality. A woman fucking a man up the ass is a heterosexual act. A man fucking a man up the ass is a homosexual act. A woman fucking a woman up the ass is also a homosexual act. None of these are bisexual acts. In fact, I’m not so sure what could be a bisexual act as bisexual cannot be reduced to an act like heterosexual or homosexual. Then again, put 2 men & 2 women all in the same room and have them switch around and perhaps that could be a bisexual act. Throw in a transgender person in the mix and now you have a party! But seriously, getting back to sodomy… Why do many tend to refer to women fucking men up the ass as a bi act or forced bi. Is it because people consider sodomy a male homosexual practice? So when a man fucks a woman up the ass, is that a forced bi act too? I mean, it’s sodomy, right? Seriously, there is nothing inherently homosexual about sodomy. I know quite a few guys (sub, Dom, vanilla, other) that like a little probe around the prostate. I love to bring men (and women) to the darkest recesses of their mind and to very high levels of pleasure; that is perhaps my #1 kink. Sometimes sodomy fits nicely into that. - LA

MaitresseEden -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/9/2004 3:51:18 PM)
I agree with Angelika.. let's get the sodomy and homosexuality thing strait. Nor do I suffer from Penis Envy. That said.. I love strap-on play, Man on Man play too.. for me it My strap on is an extension of myself. It is so empowering to see a man suffer under it. I have one that actually affords me stimulation myself hence bringing me great pleasure and I fuck him to MY frenzy. I don't see it at all as catering to his wants.. and I doubt he expects it to hurt the way I will make it hurt, and tease and torment him with extasy intermingled with pain. Oh what a rush. As for the Man on Man action, how ultimate a surrender, and there is nothing Gay at all about it.. In my opinion we are either sexual or not.. We don't need 101 labels to catagorize what it is we do. From Cuckholding, to cock sucking, to man on man action. If it is at the direction of the mistress, it is submission. While It isn't something I enjoy with everyone. I have been known to enjoy it, and request it from my submissives. From the humiliation factor, to the devotion factor. Males who give all for my taking are held in my heart and cherished as loyal submissives, and priceless. Ms. Eden

venomator -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/9/2004 8:09:00 PM)
I have to admit I crave strap-on play. To me it is the ultimate feeling. The ultimate of submission, I guess.

sknstraponlady -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/9/2004 11:36:21 PM)
I just wish i could find any woman to use a strapon on me, very hard to find

sting516 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/10/2004 5:13:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden I agree with Angelika.. let's get the sodomy and homosexuality thing strait. Nor do I suffer from Penis Envy. That said.. I love strap-on play, Man on Man play too.. for me it My strap on is an extension of myself. It is so empowering to see a man suffer under it. I have one that actually affords me stimulation myself hence bringing me great pleasure and I fuck him to MY frenzy. I don't see it at all as catering to his wants.. and I doubt he expects it to hurt the way I will make it hurt, and tease and torment him with extasy intermingled with pain. Oh what a rush. As for the Man on Man action, how ultimate a surrender, and there is nothing Gay at all about it.. In my opinion we are either sexual or not.. We don't need 101 labels to catagorize what it is we do. From Cuckholding, to cock sucking, to man on man action. If it is at the direction of the mistress, it is submission. While It isn't something I enjoy with everyone. I have been known to enjoy it, and request it from my submissives. From the humiliation factor, to the devotion factor. Males who give all for my taking are held in my heart and cherished as loyal submissives, and priceless. Ms. Eden Maitresse Eden, This is exactly how i look at this from the submissive perspective. First, with strap-ons, and to a greater degree fisting, i find that being used that way is the Mistress's way to actually reach inside my body and touch me. With fisting, i feel like a true extension of the Domme, as She reaches inside my very body, less so with the strap on, but it is still that feeling. Forced bi or forced crossdressing is something done simply for the humiliation or degradation of it, at least for me. Neither is something i look for without the knowledge that i'm serving the Mistress that way, and it's not something i'd want if the Mistress didn't want to see it for Her own pleasure, not mine. But if She wanted it, it would of course be done for her pleasure. Of course, maybe i just need a good long ongoing relationship with..........a psychiatrist???? lol sting

MaitresseEden -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/10/2004 5:46:28 AM)
quote: First, with strap-ons, and to a greater degree fisting, i find that being used that way is the Mistress's way to actually reach inside my body and touch me. With fisting, i feel like a true extension of the Domme, as She reaches inside my very body, less so with the strap on, but it is still that feeling. Beautifully said! quote: Forced bi or forced crossdressing is something done simply for the humiliation or degradation of it, at least for me. Neither is something i look for without the knowledge that i'm serving the Mistress that way, and it's not something i'd want if the Mistress didn't want to see it for Her own pleasure, not mine. But if She wanted it, it would of course be done for her pleasure. Of course, maybe i just need a good long ongoing relationship with..........a psychiatrist???? lol No, you just need to be patient and the right woman will come along and together you can explore your submission and her dominance. A Great many of us see nothing rrequiring psychiatric care in exploring ones sexuality. Now.. bend over [:D] Ms. Eden

sting516 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/10/2004 11:36:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden quote: First, with strap-ons, and to a greater degree fisting, i find that being used that way is the Mistress's way to actually reach inside my body and touch me. With fisting, i feel like a true extension of the Domme, as She reaches inside my very body, less so with the strap on, but it is still that feeling. Beautifully said! quote: Forced bi or forced crossdressing is something done simply for the humiliation or degradation of it, at least for me. Neither is something i look for without the knowledge that i'm serving the Mistress that way, and it's not something i'd want if the Mistress didn't want to see it for Her own pleasure, not mine. But if She wanted it, it would of course be done for her pleasure. Of course, maybe i just need a good long ongoing relationship with..........a psychiatrist???? lol No, you just need to be patient and the right woman will come along and together you can explore your submission and her dominance. A Great many of us see nothing rrequiring psychiatric care in exploring ones sexuality. Now.. bend over [:D] Ms. Eden Thank You for the kind words, Ms. Eden....it's greatly appreciated....and, here's my bending over (_o_) sting

MistressMisty122 -> RE: subs Craving Strap ons and "forced" bi scenes (9/12/2004 11:58:39 PM)
no, the fact is that I DO understand that mostr men are closet fags...just like Mistress Zanthia said she lost subs to "bi curious or bi sexual" guys who were just looking to be "forced" into performing with other men. I will not explain anything else to you bc you obviously dont understand what Im talking about here...which leads ME to question why you would even respond...you obviously just want to argue, which is a waste of my energy.

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