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Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions - D... - 12/4/2009 5:03:46 PM   
Brain


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Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions - Down A Hole. Maybe it's time to fix that?

-- The 2010 Pentagon budget means "every man, woman and child in the United States will spend more than $2,700 on (defense) programs and agencies next year," reports the Cato Institute. "By way of comparison, the average Japanese spends less than $330; the average German about $520; China's per capita spending is less than $100."

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/our-defense-budget-pours-trillions-ye


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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 5:08:38 PM   
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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 5:11:23 PM   
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No, its a stupid question based on a false premise.


How so ?

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 5:14:09 PM   
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No, its a stupid question based on a false premise.


How so ?


Because the portion of the budget that is being "poured down a hole" doesnt come close to trillions. Yes, there is waste, but it isnt the entire budget, which is the "trillions" and is a vast exaggeration of what TCI said.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 5:20:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

No, its a stupid question based on a false premise.


How so ?


Because the portion of the budget that is being "poured down a hole" doesnt come close to trillions. Yes, there is waste, but it isnt the entire budget, which is the "trillions" and is a vast exaggeration of what TCI said.


Dont you ever read the links properly ?

In 2000, the Pentagon admitted it has lost -- yes, lost -- $2.3 trillion.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 5:22:41 PM   
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FUCK THE DEFENSE BUDGET.


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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 5:48:15 PM   
SL4V3M4YB3


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Status: offline 		85% of the defence budget is spent on offence. The other 15% is erm paperclip supplies.

I know this for a fact.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 6:29:48 PM   
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85% of the defence budget is spent on offence. The other 15% is erm paperclip supplies.

I know this for a fact.


Faites l'amour avec des trombones. C'est la seule vraie solution.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 6:50:16 PM   
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The numbers are not mysterious:
http://www.wallstats.com/deathandtaxes/

In this fiscal year, we spent around 900 Billion on Defense/ Homeland Security.
We collected about 2 Trillion in revenue. Meaning that nearly 1/2 of every dollar you send to Washington is spent on Defense.
This is not an opinion. This is a fact.

Whether it is worth it, is opinion.

Back to the flame war already in progress.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 7:00:01 PM   
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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 7:38:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		You would rather spend that money on war, and potentially the deaths of our servicemen, just so you can be righteous to your republican beliefs and not give aid to those who are your countrymen?

wow, says alot about you.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 7:49:06 PM   
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Something was needed to divert attention from $600 toilet seats.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 7:56:50 PM   
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rather convenient....

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/4/2009 8:04:17 PM   
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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/5/2009 3:02:12 AM   
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I'd rather have the money spent on defense instead of welfare..


This seems ludicrous to me. I can never work out why spending large sums on defence, from real or perceived enemies, is seen as being better than protecting people from illness.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/5/2009 4:24:42 AM   
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And if I had wheels, I'd be a bicycle.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/5/2009 5:09:58 AM   
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I'd rather have the money spent on defense instead of welfare..


This seems ludicrous to me. I can never work out why spending large sums on defence, from real or perceived enemies, is seen as being better than protecting people from illness.


Maybe he was teased by socialists as a kid... "No...! Please! Don't socialize my lunch box! It's my lunch box! That's my -- my puddin'! No, not my pudding! Wait, wait -- you're givin' in to -- to -- a black boy, and- and, a lesbian! My puddin', a black boy, lesbian, my puddin', NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" (wakes up in a sweat... it was just a dream... just a dream... just a dream...)

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/5/2009 5:14:35 AM   
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No, its a stupid question based on a false premise.


And this is a stupid response based on false assumptions.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/5/2009 5:16:37 AM   
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Let's set aside some of that budget for healthcare as a preemptive strike against future conflicts, insuring that most of us are healthy enough to defend our country if the need arises. We'll declare war on malnourishment and disease (again, ensuring our population is healthy enough to defend ourselves), build a relief fund against future disasters (damn Katrina and those other hurricanes - I mean weather-based environmental terrorists), subsidize higher education (make an associates degree the minimum requirement to enlist, and pay tuition for students committed to join the armed forces).........couldn't these all be construed as D.o.D. expenses?
And if I had wheels, I'd be a bicycle.



What are you talking about? Why do we have to justify spending in terms of war? We don't, and shouldn't.

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RE: Our Defense Budget Pours Trillions - Yes, Trillions... - 12/5/2009 8:16:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SL4V3M4YB3
85% of the defence budget is spent on offence. The other 15% is erm paperclip supplies.
I know this for a fact.

Faites l'amour avec des trombones. C'est la seule vraie solution.

Errm oui oui

Faute de mieux indééd.

This also explains what I saw at the A+E the other day (as they say). Chacun á son goût I suppose.

Humm trombones...

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