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sunshinemiss -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 5:51:22 AM)

I know a lady who tells her kids they have to try everything.  They don't have to eat it but they have to try it (I know this part is common)... the other part:  They are permitted one food they absolutely never have to eat.  They can change the food on their birthdays.  The one chose green beans every single year.  I like that kid.

Oh, and I'm eating oatmeal with cinnamon and bananas and drinking a cup of coffee... Later (p.g. - post gym), I'll be having a one egg and 4 shrimp omelette with gobs of veggies.  Anybody wanna come over? 




barelynangel -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 6:03:38 AM)

I disagree that the child should receive a cookie -- he lied. Dessert is NOT something people need. Its simply something that at times comes after dinner. Sending him to bed with no dessert is to me not a reward or punishment but it is an indicator that since you lied and now have to go to bed, you don't get the luxury of having dessert.

I don't think this was about his not wanting the mash potatoes either but instead was about his lying and hiding the food.
So no, i don't think shoving food they don't like down their throat is correct. BUt i also don't believe giving them free reign to eat what they do or don't want is correct. Its about balance. And yes, sometimes ya have to make the kid do something they don't want too -- its part of being a kid.

I am a fan of the trying everything on the table everytime its on the table. It never hurts a kid or send them into eating disorder mode because they have to try something to eat. Also, kids like to try and manipulate so i think most parents can decipher when a kid really doesn't like something and when he is trying a power trip -- to me hiding the mashed potatoes is a power trip, especially if he has eaten them before and never said he doesn't like them.

I couldn't eat fish as a kid -- i hated it, my mom believed me -- why i don't know. However, i also disliked stuffed peppers, goolash and steak but i had to eat those lol. I also didn't like onions and peppers, yet when they were in a dish i couldn't see them, i ate them with no issue. So again, sometimes a parent is correct in making kids eat. I know my mom was i was the finickiest kid in the world and now, i eat peppers, stuffed peppers and steak -- not as often as chicken but i do. I still hate fish and don't eat it. I don't eat goolash. I don't eat onions but i do like onion flavoring.

So all in all, making a kid eat doesn't necessarily create eating disorders and eating disorders tend to be a huge its many issues concept and not just a omg i had to eat something i didn't like issue. If you recognize most issues people have with food have nothing to do with the food or physically eating it, liking it or not, its about other issues that are being projected onto the food concept.

angel




Lunalay -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 6:21:21 AM)

[:)]

I had a most scrumptious serving of mango/orange yogurt with a glass of water for breakfast.

MmmMmm!




DesFIP -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 6:25:54 AM)

He wouldn't have lied about it if he wasn't being forced to eat something he so disliked. Plus children have much higher rates of Sensory Integration Disorder being much more sensitive to taste and texture. So what for us would not be a big deal, for them usually is.





calamitysandra -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 6:39:27 AM)

Here it would have been the lying that would have cost the short ones trouble.
However, we don't force them to eat things they dislike. They have to try it, but if they really don't like it, they are allowed to leave it.

We had salad with ham, cheese, and egg for lunch, and there will be homemade pizza for dinner.




barelynangel -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 7:11:59 AM)

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  He wouldn't have lied about it if he wasn't being forced to eat something he so disliked.


DesFIP,  I can't help thinking of statements i have heard people who have robbed, stole, and yes even killed and beat the hell out of their significant others make --  well so and so made me do this wrong thing.   I guess it can all lead back to -- well i started lying, cheating, stealing, robbing and killing cause my mom made me eat mashed potatoes, so i should be excused from lying cause its all her fault.

To me, your statement here is why we have so many kids who are now adults refusing to take personal responsibility and blaming others for their bad decisions.  Its gotta start somewhere and making a child responsible even at a young age for LYING, is a way to making a responsible adult even when they have to do something they don't like.

There is a HUGE difference between refusing to eat and lying not to eat.   One is honest and one is not.  Its about a child learning integrity and yes to stand for himself.  He may not win many battles against mom and dad but throughout the years standing for himself instead of lying will teach him a heck of a lot more than teaching him lying is okay cause we will blame someone else for you doing so -- cause they are MEAN.

Sorry but lying is one thing i do not like at all in children or adults and to me, you HAVE to teach children lying is wrong and also teach them options they have outside of lying.   This is what makes strong men and women as adults.  Integrity is important and needs to be taught, not make excuses for why a child lied.

angel




barelynangel -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 7:22:03 AM)

Sorry to have participated in this thread going off topic as its a fun one.  Does drinking a white chocolate peppermint mocha coffee count as eating?  




sirsholly -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 7:31:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

He wouldn't have lied about it if he wasn't being forced to eat something he so disliked. Plus children have much higher rates of Sensory Integration Disorder being much more sensitive to taste and texture. So what for us would not be a big deal, for them usually is.


I agree....respect the childs likes and dislikes as we expect ours to be respected and the position the child was put in (having to lie) would have been eliminated.

Before i get flamed...i am not saying a child should never be made to do something he dislikes, but for heavens sake, lets choose our battles here. The kid does not like or want potatoes. Big deal.




barelynangel -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 7:36:01 AM)

So you advocate your child lying to you Holly, instead of stating he isn't eating them?  You talk about picking your battles, you advocate a child lying over eating something instead of simply saying he isn't eating them? 

What about when he starts lying to you about homework and such because this little scenero taught him lying to you was okay?  Are you going to take away his homework cause he doesn't wanna do it and so you take him out of the position of having to choose between doing it or lying to you?  Are you to blame for his lying because the mean mom is making him do something he doesn't want too?

Yes pick your battles, but don't use him having to do something he doesn't want to do as a REASON its okay for him to lie and damn well don't blame yourself for his lying because you made decisions as the MOM.

angel




playfulotter -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 9:45:40 AM)

I just ate half of a baked sweet potato with butter and chinese chili garlic sauce on it...mmmmm




VirginPotty -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 9:47:30 AM)

Can of fruit cocktail in pear juice
Granola bar
Small bag of peanut M&M's




nubianmuscle -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 9:54:58 AM)

The souls of the weak... [sm=evil.gif]

And a garden salad made with romaine lettuce and chicken salad.




DesFIP -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:11:58 AM)

BA, it was made clear that the option of saying "no potatoes thanks:" and having that be respected was not available. It was eat something he didn't like, and possibly go stick his finger down his throat afterwards to get rid of it, or try to hide it and lie. There wasn't an option that respected his feelings.

What part of being in an untenable position don't you understand?




sirsholly -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:36:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

He wouldn't have lied about it if he wasn't being forced to eat something he so disliked. Plus children have much higher rates of Sensory Integration Disorder being much more sensitive to taste and texture. So what for us would not be a big deal, for them usually is.


I agree....respect the childs likes and dislikes as we expect ours to be respected and the position the child was put in (having to lie) would have been eliminated.

Before i get flamed...i am not saying a child should never be made to do something he dislikes, but for heavens sake, lets choose our battles here. The kid does not like or want potatoes. Big deal.
quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

So you advocate your child lying to you Holly, instead of stating he isn't eating them?  You talk about picking your battles, you advocate a child lying over eating something instead of simply saying he isn't eating them? 

What about when he starts lying to you about homework and such because this little scenero taught him lying to you was okay?  Are you going to take away his homework cause he doesn't wanna do it and so you take him out of the position of having to choose between doing it or lying to you?  Are you to blame for his lying because the mean mom is making him do something he doesn't want too?

Yes pick your battles, but don't use him having to do something he doesn't want to do as a REASON its okay for him to lie and damn well don't blame yourself for his lying because you made decisions as the MOM.

angel/
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

BA, it was made clear that the option of saying "no potatoes thanks:" and having that be respected was not available. It was eat something he didn't like, and possibly go stick his finger down his throat afterwards to get rid of it, or try to hide it and lie. There wasn't an option that respected his feelings.

What part of being in an untenable position don't you understand?

Thank you Celeste.[:)]




HotFaerieMama -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:38:25 AM)

beef jerky.. soda... and three slices of pizza 




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:41:30 AM)

Spicy pumpkin soup and a wonderful sharp goat cheese called "Moly Goat", Lady Earl Grey tea with stevia and cream.




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:44:53 AM)

Not much!!!  [:(]




thishereboi -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:45:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

Taco Salad




sirsholly -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 10:56:45 AM)

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So you advocate your child lying to you Holly, instead of stating he isn't eating them? You talk about picking your battles, you advocate a child lying over eating something instead of simply saying he isn't eating them?
he was not given the option of saying he didn't want them or not eating them.

Angel, if i ever found my child lying to me because i ignored or disrespected him and his opinions, i would owe him a sincere apology.




barelynangel -> RE: What are you eating? (12/8/2009 11:41:37 AM)

DesFIP, i would appreciate the courtesy of not arbitrarily shortening my nickname as i have done you the same courtesy. If you can't do that then don't respond in the future - because passive-aggressiveness is silly.  As i believe i have said the same thing to you before. 

Yes, Mom said do something and instead of doing it -- he LIES and mom makes excuses for same because gee wiz the kid was told to eat his mashed potatoes.  That may be how you are raising your children, but to me that is why we have so many children who are now adults refusing to take personal responsibility and integrity.  I did not see where persephonee remotely stated what occured prior to his lying.   All i saw was he hid his potatoes and lied about it to her when asked about it.  I don't agree with making excuses when a child lies.  Eating something he doesn't like won't hurt him, however, lying and having excuses made for same will.   You obviously see things differently. 

The child will remember more that he got away with lying than having to eat his mashed potatoes one night.  What do you think persephonee would have ended up doing -- shoving the food down his throat if he stood his ground and not ate them?  No, i doubt it.   To me, integrity is very important to teach children and if you teach them its okay to LIE when they don't want to do something then they will always not only lie to you, but also lie to everyone around them. 

Will children lie to push boundries -- hell yes.  Its up to the adults to teach them its not acceptable and not make excuses for them.   Not teach them excuses or its not their fault poor dear had to lie cause mean mommy was making him eat his dinner.  When adults especially their parents make excuses for them, that is when you train them that they can do what they want and the consequences don't matter cause mommy will make excuses for his/her behavior simply because the child didn't want to do something.

It seems you see it okay to make excuses and for children to lie.  I don't, even in something as insignificant as this.

angel




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