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Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 12:54:24 PM

gloriousangel

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Could you tell me what happens during humilation, public and turture. For examlple if I did something wrong and my master tell me off can you describe what happens in the above matter

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 2:37:25 PM

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Could you give me a brief description of humilation,

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 2:54:43 PM

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Could you give me a brief description of humilation,

I'll go one better and give you a quote from The Loving Dominant that makes a distinction between it and erotic embarassment:

"To further confuse the issue, humiliation is quite different from embarrassment. Quite a large number of submissives of both sexes are turned on by embarrassment. To me, the primary difference between humiliation and embarrassment is how the activity causes the submissive to feel about himself or herself. Humiliation degrades, causes the person to feel that he or she is less valued and treasured, while embarrassment can bring out a greater sense of self worth.
"Here is an illustration quite separate from the scene itself. Imagine you are at a formal dinner and the speaker says several complimentary things about you then asks you to come up and say a few words. You might be embarrassed by the activity, but it would make you feel that you were valued. Then, as you walk to the rostrum, the speaker steps forward and pulls your pants down, and the audience laughs. THAT is humiliation. There is no gain or advancement there."

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 2:58:10 PM

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Could you tell me what happens during humilation, public and turture. For examlple if I did something wrong and my master tell me off can you describe what happens in the above matter

What would happen to you depends on your master and, I suspect, what you did wrong.

For example, if someone who was submissive to me did something that displeased me, I would explain to her that it was displeasing and ask her to explain why she did it. I believe the knowledge that she had failed me would be infinitely more painful than anything I can do... and I can do a lot of very painful things.

Should she repeat the behavior, I would have to reconsider if I wished her continued service.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 3:58:32 PM

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Hi

I am 29 years old and from england. I am currently living with someone. I have had some basic experience in flogging and other things.

I seek a master to watch over me at all times has to be bubbly good sense of humour

I am currently under consideration

No longer looking

So which is it... are you seeking or are you under consideration?

How does the fellow you're living with feel about you searching for a Master?

If you are under consideration, why the heck aren't you asking him some of these questions?

If you have asked him these questions & you are so unsure about his answers that you come to the boards to 2nd opinion him at every turn... honey, you got problems.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 5:34:58 PM

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I'm not into personal humiliation, but here's my spin on it. In the Vanilla world I have seen husbands humiliate their wives, humiliate their children and embarass their friends by the things that they would say in public. Hot tempers and lose lips attached to an undisciplined mind will do that. This has wrecked marriages, made children afraid of their own parents and done countless amounts of damage. You've probably seen this too in one form or another and wondered at the people involved. "How could you say that to your wife/daughter?" or "What kind of a man is that?" are the usual things that come to mind. (I realize that this is true of women also but my experience has mostly been with men humiliating their family members.)

If you are going to play at humiliation be very sure to set forth the ground rules in advance. Let the Dom know what things are 'off limits' and have a 'safe word' to stop the action if needed. This kind of thing can really have a strong pyschological effect on a person and hurt them if it is not done carefully.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 6:14:34 PM

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If you are going to play at humiliation be very sure to set forth the ground rules in advance. Let the Dom know what things are 'off limits' and have a 'safe word' to stop the action if needed. This kind of thing can really have a strong pyschological effect on a person and hurt them if it is not done carefully.

This can not be stressed enough. Well said.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 9:08:16 PM

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ORIGINAL: OscarHargraves

I'm not into personal humiliation, but here's my spin on it. In the Vanilla world I have seen husbands humiliate their wives, humiliate their children and embarass their friends by the things that they would say in public. Hot tempers and lose lips attached to an undisciplined mind will do that. This has wrecked marriages, made children afraid of their own parents and done countless amounts of damage. You've probably seen this too in one form or another and wondered at the people involved. "How could you say that to your wife/daughter?" or "What kind of a man is that?" are the usual things that come to mind. (I realize that this is true of women also but my experience has mostly been with men humiliating their family members.)

If you are going to play at humiliation be very sure to set forth the ground rules in advance. Let the Dom know what things are 'off limits' and have a 'safe word' to stop the action if needed. This kind of thing can really have a strong pyschological effect on a person and hurt them if it is not done carefully.

I have humiliation listed as a hard limit. I don't ever want to feel again how I felt as a child bullied at school, or during my marriage to an emotionally abusive man. Master engages in gentle teasing with me, and that is fine, but He would never make me feel bad about myself. I also tie face slapping in with this, I would never let anyone do this to me and Master hates it as well. It goes too close to the abuse line for us.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/15/2006 10:54:38 PM

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i feel quite the opposite about humiliation. Humiliation exposes me to my core, stripping down all walls and barriers. The pain draws me even closer to him. Debasement rips me open and leaves me raw, and portrays an honesty between us that is undefineable. It makes me grovel, and crave, and plead, and cling. And my love and need ever grows.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 12:49:18 AM

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Thank you for the replies I will be asking my master about.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 3:23:27 AM

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Could you clarify please?
on the other thread he is someone you haven't even met yet he wants to bring his toy bag for this 1st meeting
profile says under consideration
Here you call him your master

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 4:08:10 AM

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This is a totally different question. I just wanted to know more about humilation.

No i never met him and i have spoken to him on msn

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 4:23:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling

Could you clarify please?
on the other thread he is someone you haven't even met yet he wants to bring his toy bag for this 1st meeting
profile says under consideration
Here you call him your master

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ORIGINAL: gloriousangel

This is a totally different question. I just wanted to know more about humilation.

No i never met him and i have spoken to him on msn

My point exactly!!!

gloriousangel, you have posted about some topics that could potentially cause you great harm... (i.e. inspection in the park, first meeting play session)

You have made mention that you are concerned about safety & made comment that you feel one of these men went too far & this makes him a bad person...

WAKE UP !!!

You are all over the place with all of this. Honestly, this cyber collaring, consideration & ownership is simply fantasy... meeting someone face to face is reality. If you give this person full ownership based on black & white text on a screen, written through an internet chat... how can anyone who practices this in reality ever hope to advise you.

You really need to change your behavior or you will find yourself in an endless circle of bitching about the last dom who did you wrong. Your on action of cyber playing is the problem. You have been on this site 3 days now... you speak of being felt up in the park... meeting #2 with toy bag in hand, but this time you will go somewhere warm... you are playing out way to much fantasy in reality.

If he is your Master it should be because you have built up a strong bond with him... that you trust that he will have your best interest, that he can guide you, that he can answer your questions as well as have you explore & question things beyond your present experience. Not because he likes to wank off while you strip tease for him via a web cam.

Somehow I feel like I am beating a dead horse here...

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 4:30:23 AM

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thank you for comments.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 4:34:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: OscarHargraves

I'm not into personal humiliation, but here's my spin on it. In the Vanilla world I have seen husbands humiliate their wives, humiliate their children and embarass their friends by the things that they would say in public. Hot tempers and lose lips attached to an undisciplined mind will do that. This has wrecked marriages, made children afraid of their own parents and done countless amounts of damage. You've probably seen this too in one form or another and wondered at the people involved. "How could you say that to your wife/daughter?" or "What kind of a man is that?" are the usual things that come to mind. (I realize that this is true of women also but my experience has mostly been with men humiliating their family members.)

If you are going to play at humiliation be very sure to set forth the ground rules in advance. Let the Dom know what things are 'off limits' and have a 'safe word' to stop the action if needed. This kind of thing can really have a strong pyschological effect on a person and hurt them if it is not done carefully.

This brings to mind a couple I saw in a store recently. The woman walked behind her husband and two small sons. When they were in the store the woman told the youngest to not run off to stay where she could see him. This child of about 4 or 5 spun around and said "Shut up woman you don't tell me what to do" His Father smiled and patted him on the shoulder "That's how you teach women son, but stay next to me so I dont loose you." This woman just looked at the ground as if looking for a hole to crawl into.
It was the most disgusting display of lack of respect I've ever seen.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 5:11:30 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lashra

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ORIGINAL: OscarHargraves

I'm not into personal humiliation, but here's my spin on it. In the Vanilla world I have seen husbands humiliate their wives, humiliate their children and embarass their friends by the things that they would say in public. Hot tempers and lose lips attached to an undisciplined mind will do that. This has wrecked marriages, made children afraid of their own parents and done countless amounts of damage. You've probably seen this too in one form or another and wondered at the people involved. "How could you say that to your wife/daughter?" or "What kind of a man is that?" are the usual things that come to mind. (I realize that this is true of women also but my experience has mostly been with men humiliating their family members.)

If you are going to play at humiliation be very sure to set forth the ground rules in advance. Let the Dom know what things are 'off limits' and have a 'safe word' to stop the action if needed. This kind of thing can really have a strong pyschological effect on a person and hurt them if it is not done carefully.

This brings to mind a couple I saw in a store recently. The woman walked behind her husband and two small sons. When they were in the store the woman told the youngest to not run off to stay where she could see him. This child of about 4 or 5 spun around and said "Shut up woman you don't tell me what to do" His Father smiled and patted him on the shoulder "That's how you teach women son, but stay next to me so I dont loose you." This woman just looked at the ground as if looking for a hole to crawl into.
It was the most disgusting display of lack of respect I've ever seen.

Lashra

That is a good post Lashra

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 8:24:18 AM

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I like face slapping. But then, I have never been abusive, so perhaps it doesn't have the same connotations for me.

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 9:01:12 AM

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Seeing you asked this for All Masters, I'll respond.. I don't do humiliation. You being displeasing is one thing and I would deal with th matter appropriatly..

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 10:22:33 AM

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Thank you for that

I understand fully now about humilation

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RE: Question for all masters - 3/16/2006 11:24:27 AM

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