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8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our country? - 12/11/2009 3:30:46 PM   
MzMia


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***We are not that far from closing out a decade!***
 
We had the same President for the MAJORITY of this decade!
January 20, 2001 until January 20, 2009 - The Bush Years!
 
President Bush was the American President for 80% of this decade.
Most would agree, that President Bush, basically OWNED this decade.
 
We expect a hell of a lot from a President that has been in office 11 months.
What did we get during 8 years of President Bush?
What marvelous, major, significant accomplishments did President Bush make?
 
I can't think of 8 significant things that President Bush in 8 years of office.
I can't think of 5 significant things that President Bush in 8 years of office.
{Personally, I can't think of 2 things President Bush accomplished, but I digress.}

I am starting this thread in the hopes that one of the CollarMe scholars, will let
me know 5 major/significant accomplishments of the last elected President , that
held the office of President of America, for 8 years.
I figure if President Obama makes 3 major accomplishments in 4 years of office,
he will be way ahead of the last President.
I can't wait to see the long list of the major accomplishments made by President Bush.
lol
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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:41:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can debate all day about how much influence a President has over different aspects of the country, but you want 5 off the top of my head, how about 6:

No Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil after 9/11 despite many documented attempts.
Positive GDP growth despite 9/11 and the Clinton recession.
Unemployment throughout his term lower than the average of the "great" Clinton years.
DJIA reaches its highest level ever.
Liberated millions of Iraqi's and maintained reasonable stability in the rest of the ME.
Tamed Qadaffi.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:42:16 PM   
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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:42:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

You can debate all day about how much influence a President has over different aspects of the country, but you want 5 off the top of my head, how about 6:

No Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil after 9/11 despite many documented attempts.
Positive GDP growth despite 9/11 and the Clinton recession.
Unemployment throughout his term lower than the average of the "great" Clinton years.
DJIA reaches its highest level ever.
Liberated millions of Iraqi's and maintained reasonable stability in the rest of the ME.
Tamed Qadaffi.


ROFL
You did give it a great try.
Thank you for the laughs, be back later.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:44:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MzMia

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

You can debate all day about how much influence a President has over different aspects of the country, but you want 5 off the top of my head, how about 6:

No Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil after 9/11 despite many documented attempts.
Positive GDP growth despite 9/11 and the Clinton recession.
Unemployment throughout his term lower than the average of the "great" Clinton years.
DJIA reaches its highest level ever.
Liberated millions of Iraqi's and maintained reasonable stability in the rest of the ME.
Tamed Qadaffi.


ROFL
You did give it a great try.
Thank you for the laughs, be back later.


You started the thread, I presented facts. As that embarassment of a Congressman Mark Grayson says, either respond with facts or stfu in your own thread.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:46:54 PM   
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Rises 120.80 to close at 14,164.53, first close above 14,100 - All time closing high The DJIA has risen 6,878.26, or 94%, since the low point of Oct 9, 2002, 5 years ago
2008
Sep 15 Falls 504.48 to close at  10,917.51 on news of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch
Sep 17 Falls 684.81 to close at 8,920.70 on fears of AIG rescue failure
Sep 18 Rises 410.3 to close at  11,016.69 on news of world wide central banks injecting billions and billions into the credit markets
Sep 19 Rises 368.75 to close at  11,388.44 on news of government bail out plan
Sep 29 Falls  777.68 to close at 10,365.45, down 6.98%, largest point loss in history
Sep 30 Rises 485.21 to close at  10,850.66, up 4.68%
Oct 09 Falls 678.91 to close at 8,579.19, down 7.33% The DJIA has fallen 5,585.34, or 39% in one year
Oct 13 Rises 936.42 to close at 9,389.61, up 11.08%, largest point gain in history, fourth largest % gain in history
Oct 15 Falls 733.08 to close at 8,577.91,  down 7.87%, second largest point loss in history


Seems its been up and down like a whores knickers, he hardly had a handle on it



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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:50:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

You can debate all day about how much influence a President has over different aspects of the country, but you want 5 off the top of my head, how about 6:

No Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil after 9/11 despite many documented attempts.
Positive GDP growth despite 9/11 and the Clinton recession.
Unemployment throughout his term lower than the average of the "great" Clinton years.
DJIA reaches its highest level ever.
Liberated millions of Iraqi's and maintained reasonable stability in the rest of the ME.
Tamed Qadaffi.


That's one way to look at it. On the other hand, you can also look at it as:

Allowed the most destructive attack upon US soil since Pearl Harbor
Took the Clinton surplus and turned it into the biggest deficit in US history at the time
Oversaw the greatest stagnation and widening of the gap between the upper 5% of wealth holders and the rest of the country ever seen in this nation
Lied to the country to get us into a war that cost us more lives than were taken in the 9/11 attack, while killing more Iraqui civilians than Sadam would have in ten more years of his reign (by past numbers)
Kept Qadaffi from doing more than funding terrorists, spouting nonsense at every opportunity and generally doing what Qadaffi had always done.

I thought I was the spinner around here. Guess I was wrong.


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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:52:01 PM   
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Seems its been up and down like a whores knickers, he hardly had a handle on it
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The idea that the economy didn't hit the bottom until almost the end of Bush's administration is like a man who jumps from a fifty story building saying that until the end, the trip wasn't that bad.


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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:53:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

2007
Rises 120.80 to close at 14,164.53, first close above 14,100 - All time closing high The DJIA has risen 6,878.26, or 94%, since the low point of Oct 9, 2002, 5 years ago
2008
Sep 15 Falls 504.48 to close at  10,917.51 on news of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch
Sep 17 Falls 684.81 to close at 8,920.70 on fears of AIG rescue failure
Sep 18 Rises 410.3 to close at  11,016.69 on news of world wide central banks injecting billions and billions into the credit markets
Sep 19 Rises 368.75 to close at  11,388.44 on news of government bail out plan
Sep 29 Falls  777.68 to close at 10,365.45, down 6.98%, largest point loss in history
Sep 30 Rises 485.21 to close at  10,850.66, up 4.68%
Oct 09 Falls 678.91 to close at 8,579.19, down 7.33% The DJIA has fallen 5,585.34, or 39% in one year
Oct 13 Rises 936.42 to close at 9,389.61, up 11.08%, largest point gain in history, fourth largest % gain in history
Oct 15 Falls 733.08 to close at 8,577.91,  down 7.87%, second largest point loss in history


Seems its been up and down like a whores knickers, he hardly had a handle on it




He had a great handle on it until the Democratic forced initiatives on housing came home to roost. The timing of that says absolutely nothing about GWB. If the inevitable housing market drop occurred a few months later it couldnt be blamed on Barry either. Remember it was GWB that wanted to rein in Fanny and Freddy, but the roar from Barney and the Democratically controlled Congress was "youre wrong, they are in great shape".

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:53:55 PM   
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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:56:40 PM   
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try some facts, troll.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:58:23 PM   
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No Islamic terrorist attacks on US soil after 9/11 despite many documented attempts

To be fair folks, that IS a fact. There have been  no SUCCESSFUL attacks.
Not saying i am a fan of the former President....but facts are facts.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 3:59:31 PM   
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Absolutely right. Bush was no saint, he was fiscally very liberal, but he did warn us about the Freddie / Fannie disaster before it happened and the Dems voted down his efforts at reform.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

He had a great handle on it until the Democratic forced initiatives on housing came home to roost. The timing of that says absolutely nothing about GWB. If the inevitable housing market drop occurred a few months later it couldnt be blamed on Barry either. Remember it was GWB that wanted to rein in Fanny and Freddy, but the roar from Barney and the Democratically controlled Congress was "youre wrong, they are in great shape".



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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:00:17 PM   
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Seems its been up and down like a whores knickers, he hardly had a handle on it
ORIGINAL: Lucylastic



The idea that the economy didn't hit the bottom until almost the end of Bush's administration is like a man who jumps from a fifty story building saying that until the end, the trip wasn't that bad.


I just remember the twat who said americans are whiners, and the economy is in basically good shape, JUST before the arse fell out of it, and they are still blaming it all on the new chap... probably because for a change they are the ones upset with the way things are going and have no way out but to stamp their little feet.
The world economy nearly fell apart because of the past years of american monetary system. Nobody could clear this mess up in a year, but the whiners want it done yesterday. But still cant take responsibility thats what is so reprehensible



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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:01:20 PM   
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Islamic Terror Attacks on American Soil

(3,308 killed by Muslims in America in 65 terror attacks)

9/11 was the deadliest, no doubt, no question. However, it wasnt the first, it wasnt the last, and it wasnt the only one during those 8 years.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:02:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SpinnerofTales

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Seems its been up and down like a whores knickers, he hardly had a handle on it
ORIGINAL: Lucylastic




The idea that the economy didn't hit the bottom until almost the end of Bush's administration is like a man who jumps from a fifty story building saying that until the end, the trip wasn't that bad.




Too bad the thread is about BUSH's impact on the economy, not Barney Frank's, Franklin Raines and Chris Dodd's, or youd actually have a valid point for a change.


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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:04:36 PM   
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try some facts, troll.

2007
Rises 120.80 to close at 14,164.53, first close above 14,100 - All time closing high The DJIA has risen 6,878.26, or 94%, since the low point of Oct 9, 2002, 5 years ago
2008
Sep 15 Falls 504.48 to close at 10,917.51 on news of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch
Sep 17 Falls 684.81 to close at 8,920.70 on fears of AIG rescue failure
Sep 18 Rises 410.3 to close at 11,016.69 on news of world wide central banks injecting billions and billions into the credit markets
Sep 19 Rises 368.75 to close at 11,388.44 on news of government bail out plan
Sep 29 Falls 777.68 to close at 10,365.45, down 6.98%, largest point loss in history
Sep 30 Rises 485.21 to close at 10,850.66, up 4.68%
Oct 09 Falls 678.91 to close at 8,579.19, down 7.33% The DJIA has fallen 5,585.34, or 39% in one year
Oct 13 Rises 936.42 to close at 9,389.61, up 11.08%, largest point gain in history, fourth largest % gain in history
Oct 15 Falls 733.08 to close at 8,577.91, down 7.87%, second largest point loss in history

Coming from someone who never posts links ,sources, qualifiers, or anything remotely dressed up as proof
Back atcha





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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:05:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		What accomplishment could anyone possibly list that you would be agreed to as an accomplishment? That there wasn't a terrorist attack in the US? That Saddam and his regime isn't putting people into shredders any longer? Libya used to saber rattle every other month and he Qaddafi seems to have quit that, but who knows what was given in trade. Would you consider paying the delinquent payments to the UN a positive?

Many, working people at least, would say that the tax cut he implemented was positive, same with the second such Bill he passed a few years later as I recall, the 'Working Families Tax Relief Act'. His Homeland Security Act and Terrorism Insurance Acts are still in place. The people in Zimbabwe probably appreciated his 'Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act'. His Education Bill didn't seem to help, I wouldn't represent 'No child Left Behind' is beneficial. You'd have to ask a Vet if his 'Veterans Benefits Improvement Act', did, or does, anything for them.

His attempt at supporting health care; putting more physicians, into needy areas with a 'National Health Service Corps' was a bad use of funding. Allowing Americans to set aside up to $4,500 every year, tax free, to save for medical expenses was just stupid; as was letting senior citizens have choices for their source of Medicaid. I remember how that made my life miserable as I had to shop the options given to my parents.

Hell - any and all of these results give you the picture you seek. I couldn't add anything and sure can't think of a damn positive thing.

However, the fact that you need a comparison to Bush to take the heat of the man in the office - speaks of a totally different expectation than many people had last year at this time.

It's fascinating to witness this process.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:06:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

quote:

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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try some facts, troll.

2007
Rises 120.80 to close at 14,164.53, first close above 14,100 - All time closing high The DJIA has risen 6,878.26, or 94%, since the low point of Oct 9, 2002, 5 years ago
2008
Sep 15 Falls 504.48 to close at 10,917.51 on news of the collapse of Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch
Sep 17 Falls 684.81 to close at 8,920.70 on fears of AIG rescue failure
Sep 18 Rises 410.3 to close at 11,016.69 on news of world wide central banks injecting billions and billions into the credit markets
Sep 19 Rises 368.75 to close at 11,388.44 on news of government bail out plan
Sep 29 Falls 777.68 to close at 10,365.45, down 6.98%, largest point loss in history
Sep 30 Rises 485.21 to close at 10,850.66, up 4.68%
Oct 09 Falls 678.91 to close at 8,579.19, down 7.33% The DJIA has fallen 5,585.34, or 39% in one year
Oct 13 Rises 936.42 to close at 9,389.61, up 11.08%, largest point gain in history, fourth largest % gain in history
Oct 15 Falls 733.08 to close at 8,577.91, down 7.87%, second largest point loss in history

Coming from someone who never posts links ,sources, qualifiers, or anything remotely dressed up as proof
Back atcha






When what I post isnt obvious to anyone with an intellect above a horned toad, I do. Now try refuting what i said, despite the quote function not working.

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RE: 8 years Bush/2001-2009 – What did he do for our c... - 12/11/2009 4:15:51 PM   
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That s why I cut and paste....
not worth my time, hence the gales of laughter


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