AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication

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Brain -> AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:08:47 PM)
This doesn’t surprise me one bit. The only way they can stop people from demanding polluters change their ways is to lie and say climate change is not true or that it is not caused by man; and that's a lie. AP: 'Exhaustive Review' of Stolen Climate Email Finds 'No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication' The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP ... don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions. ... The e-mails were stolen from the computer network server of the climate research unit at the University of East Anglia in southeast England, an influential source of climate science, and were posted online last month. The university shut down the server and contacted the police. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7572

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:13:59 PM)
Oh, I can't wait to hear all the reasons this doesn't mean anything. I'll go make popcorn while they get warmed up...

popeye1250 -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:19:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brain This doesn’t surprise me one bit. The only way they can stop people from demanding polluters change their ways is to lie and say climate change is not true or that it is not caused by man; and that's a lie. AP: 'Exhaustive Review' of Stolen Climate Email Finds 'No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication' The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP ... don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions. ... The e-mails were stolen from the computer network server of the climate research unit at the University of East Anglia in southeast England, an influential source of climate science, and were posted online last month. The university shut down the server and contacted the police. http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7572 Cool, so they don't have to "hide behind" any of those pesky freedom of information acts? Gee, thankyou Associated Press for clearing that up for us! Now they can go back to "adjusting" the figures to make them "fit the "science", right? "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!!!"

ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:28:18 PM)
Shit - the popcorn wasn't even done yet!

Moonhead -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:29:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Shit - the popcorn wasn't even done yet! [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif]

SpinnerofTales -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:33:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Shit - the popcorn wasn't even done yet! And when the popcorn is done, we can just put some butter on the polar icecaps and watch it melt as they do the "There is no global warming" dance.

popeye1250 -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:35:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Shit - the popcorn wasn't even done yet! Panda, it's just too easy! I LMAO everytime I read that the e-mails were,....."Stolen"! It's like a drug dealer getting his drugs ripped off and playing the,....."VICTIM!" "Calling all cars,.....be on the lookout for a thousand "stolen" e-mails!"

Moonhead -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:48:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Shit - the popcorn wasn't even done yet! Panda, it's just too easy! I LMAO everytime I read that the e-mails were,....."Stolen"! Well quite. There aren't any precedents for research data being considered confidential, after all.

Brain -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:48:57 PM)
It is this true? I find this hard to believe. Real experts and scientists are shouted down and a huge industry has grown up to promote what is essentially a fraud. This template has been used to sell: * The invasion of Iraq * The war in Afghanistan * Swine flu * The "War on Terror" * Bogus AIDS science Nowhere is this pattern clearer than the current Climate Change hysteria. Here is the REAL state-of-the-art climate science that the government and media (and all the "me too" folks who follow them) is being suppressed. Video: http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/750.html

DarkSteven -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 1:49:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Oh, I can't wait to hear all the reasons this doesn't mean anything. I'll go make popcorn while they get warmed up... Contributing to global warming yerself, are you, Panda?

Mercnbeth -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 2:03:37 PM)
quote: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7572 The 'brad'-blog huh? Personally ever since Brad and his D&G girlfriend joined another alliance I've been holding off any opinion until confirmed by the 'chad-blog'. Although 'Chad' he doesn't get as much press since his great 'hanging' days fame; he's been better since his mom is let him paint the basement where he lives.

popeye1250 -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 2:12:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: ThatDamnedPanda Shit - the popcorn wasn't even done yet! Panda, it's just too easy! I LMAO everytime I read that the e-mails were,....."Stolen"! Well quite. There aren't any precedents for research data being considered confidential, after all. Oh, now it's "research data?" If those "figures" were Honest and Correct wouldn't they want the public to see them? On the other hand....

Kirata -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 2:16:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brain The 1,073 e-mails examined by the AP ... don't undercut the vast body of evidence showing the world is warming because of man-made greenhouse gas emissions. Well if that's the opinion of some reporters at the AP, then fuck, that settles it. [sm=banghead.gif] K.

vincentML -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 2:22:51 PM)
Damn! Shudda known. Vincent

Kirata -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 2:40:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Brain It is this true? I find this hard to believe. http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/750.html Nice clip. Thanks. Full presentation starts here. Response to above starts here. K.

popeye1250 -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 2:47:23 PM)
An "exhaustive" review! Yup, I can just see them burning the midnight oil at A.P.; "Oh shit! There's 1,073 e-mails?" "Well, get the fashion editors and their people in here too to help us!" "Hurry up and grab them before they leave!" "This is going to be an All Hands effort!" "Oh wait!" Do WE have "stolen" e-mails here?" "Anyone checked to see if we can go through them first?"

servantforuse -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 3:12:27 PM)
I the data supported global warming, they wouldn't have had to continue the hoax / fraud. There is a reason they falsified and hid documents. That paper shredder was working overtime..

SpinnerofTales -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 3:41:22 PM)
I do hope it's realized that if the AP had said that there was evidence that the hacked data showed any impropriety, the deniers would be treating them as if they were the soul of journalistic integrity and unquestionable in their findings. But that's the anti global warming religion at work. All hail the "shit happens" theory and hold it holy.

popeye1250 -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 4:19:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse I the data supported global warming, they wouldn't have had to continue the hoax / fraud. There is a reason they falsified and hid documents. That paper shredder was working overtime.. "The louder they protested their innocence the quicker we counted the silverware." "But Mom, Jimmy said I didn't do it! Can I go out and play now?"

Brain -> RE: AP Exhaustive Review of Stolen Climate Email Finds No Evidence of Falsification, Fabrication (12/14/2009 4:28:08 PM)
I suppose suspended talks doesn’t mean very much if that story about the sun is true. I guess I’m going to wait and see until people like Al Gore or David Suzuki or others agree with this new hypothesis about the influence of the sun. Copenhagen talks suspended The Copenhagen climate-change conference, now beginning its second week, is now abruptly suspended after a coalition of developing-nation delegations, including the Chinese and Indian delegations, refused to discuss carbon mitigation any further until the developed nations agreed to more stringent emissions mitigation of their own. In other words, they want the Kyoto Protocol and won't be satisfied with anything less.

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