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St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 11:30:13 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Is Corned Beef & Cabbage an Irish originated dish?

What was it's orientation and which culture was it's inspiration?
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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 11:49:51 AM   
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Corned Beef and Cabbage is an American concotion (like Chinese food ;) )

Over there, they tend to eat Bacon and cabbage, but when immigrants living over here, they picked up a taste for corned beef from their Jewish neighbors in the NY neighborhoods.

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 11:53:03 AM   
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What was it's orientation


Hmmmm, CornBeef and Cabbage....I'd guess Bisexual Switch?

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 12:05:22 PM   
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Over there, they tend to eat Bacon and cabbage, but when immigrants living over here, they picked up a taste for corned beef from their Jewish neighbors in the NY neighborhoods.


Fergus is correct. I think it also had something to do with the fact that Irish bacon is not readily available here. I am told it is much different than what we here call bacon...although I have never had it so I can't say for sure. Maybe someone who is actually from there can clarify.

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 12:15:27 PM   
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Yes mist, you're correct. Being irish, I have had the pleasure of of both. And Fergus is correct on this trivia.

I prefer the cornbeef over the bacon as well though.

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 12:26:35 PM   
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If you can suck it through a straw its Irish food...

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 12:31:21 PM   
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Well I know what they call bacon in the UK we refer to as rashers here. The bacon we boil with cabbage is like a joint of ham.

While silverside of cornbeef is nice I prefer bacon but you can keep the cabbage, horrid smelly stuff!

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 4:30:23 PM   
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Origination is in the US, New York City in particular. But inspired of what culture?

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 4:37:27 PM   
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hard call, corning is an english concept word and meaning as preservative. I go with Jewish, overall tho.

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 5:49:33 PM   
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quote:

Ron


Ron,
EXCELLENT LOGIC, my friend! Good Job!

It's the correct answer at least as according to the "Daily Breeze" newspaper source. I never heard this before either, and found it interesting and credible. It claims that New York City, also the location of the first St. Patrick's Parade, was the source of corn beef and cabbage. The corn beef was a new meat product for the immigrant Irish introduced to them by the resident New York City Jewish community. The problem is, there was no mention to why or when in the short one paragraph St. Patrick's day trivia article.

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/17/2006 7:18:20 PM   
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Dude!

I been around the town, but I was drunk, so I remember so very little of the details.


LOLOLOL,
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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/19/2006 8:40:36 PM   
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Do I stink funny?

I thought I had answered both questions in my first reply!

*sigh*

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/19/2006 9:06:19 PM   
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and they dont drink fosters in australia

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/19/2006 9:22:17 PM   
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Do I stink funny?

I thought I had answered both questions in my first reply!

*sigh*

fergus


Fergus,
Can't say!

Maybe you got sprinkled with Leprechaun dust making you invisible? In any event - I missed your absolutely correct answer. I'll have Ron forward you the prize.

Sorry!!

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RE: St Patrick's Day Trivia - 3/20/2006 7:24:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Origination is in the US, New York City in particular. But inspired of what culture?


New England boiled dinner.  Influenced by the English settlers, and picked up by the heavy Irish immigrant population in New England, Boston in particular.  It was as close as they could get to home cooking, and St. Paddy's Day became a big deal here, while it is just a day to go to church in Southern Ireland.  At least in the County Cork area, where I stayed. 
And yes, I ate an awful lot of Irish bacon while in the Emerald Isle. It was the most common dinner, served at 1PM.  I ate it with the cabbage, (and boiled potatoes.) But, I like cabbage!  *Smile*
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