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osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 5:45:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

If a 25 year old says she won't respond to anyone over 30, then why would someone more than twice her age insist on writing her? She has as much right to a happy relationship as you do. And if what she needs is someone of her own age, in her own location, and who likes the same music she does then why can't you respect that?

If you want other people to respect you, you have to start by respecting them. You get friends by being one. It really is that simple.


and this applys to what i said how?




DarkSteven -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 7:20:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Accept the fact that you will strike out 95% of the time.  I do.


You got a 5% hit rate?

Pretty good.

No, seriously- considering the small circle of BDSM oriented people, factor that females are less than 1/2, and submissive females about 1/2 of that, then figure geographical compatibility, age brackets, specific interests, and personality compatibility....

Being successful with 1 out of 20 girls is a pretty good average.


Let me explain.  Out of 100 contacts of women whose collarme profiles indicate a possible match (local or willing to relocate, submissive, etc.), I will get 5% that respond.  Not all of them respond positively.




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 7:35:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Accept the fact that you will strike out 95% of the time.  I do.


You got a 5% hit rate?

Pretty good.

No, seriously- considering the small circle of BDSM oriented people, factor that females are less than 1/2, and submissive females about 1/2 of that, then figure geographical compatibility, age brackets, specific interests, and personality compatibility....

Being successful with 1 out of 20 girls is a pretty good average.


Let me explain.  Out of 100 contacts of women whose collarme profiles indicate a possible match (local or willing to relocate, submissive, etc.), I will get 5% that respond.  Not all of them respond positively.



you get "you pathetic wretch" messages too? lolololol




sweetsub1957 -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 7:36:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Y'know, whining isn't an attractive trait in Doms.


I was going to say that, but You beat me to it.  Actually, whining isn't an attractive trait in anyone.  Dom or vanilla, I don't like to be around whiners. 

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Let me explain.  Out of 100 contacts of women whose collarme profiles indicate a possible match (local or willing to relocate, submissive, etc.), I will get 5% that respond.  Not all of them respond positively.

I can't imagine You getting a negative response!




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:07:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Y'know, whining isn't an attractive trait in Doms.


I was going to say that, but You beat me to it.  Actually, whining isn't an attractive trait in anyone.  Dom or vanilla, I don't like to be around whiners. 

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

Let me explain.  Out of 100 contacts of women whose collarme profiles indicate a possible match (local or willing to relocate, submissive, etc.), I will get 5% that respond.  Not all of them respond positively.

I can't imagine You getting a negative response!



I'm not whineing, i was just stating my opinion on the psychological difficulties of dominants and submissive getting together and the roadblocks we put in each others way.

In my case I’m reluctant to put myself in a position with a woman where I’m not sure of the outcome.

When I’m in a relationship I’m always thinking of what may go wrong and prevent me from getting what I want and thinking of ways to prevent failure, I’m a goal oriented person. To accomplish this I like complete control or as much control as possible. When I’m not in control I’m more cautious in my approach especially in regards to women I don’t know. It’s not from a lack of confidence it’s more because of a state of uncertainty, I hate uncertainty.

I know this shatters the myth of the conquering dom storming in to overpower the helpless submissive.

All this boils down to that in a relationship I’m a more determined person, out of one i'm more cautious.

Confidence to me doesn’t mean you can over come all adversity but that you pick and choose the adversity you take on. I’m not a Don Quixoti dom.





DarkSteven -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:12:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Accept the fact that you will strike out 95% of the time.  I do.


You got a 5% hit rate?

Pretty good.

No, seriously- considering the small circle of BDSM oriented people, factor that females are less than 1/2, and submissive females about 1/2 of that, then figure geographical compatibility, age brackets, specific interests, and personality compatibility....

Being successful with 1 out of 20 girls is a pretty good average.


Let me explain.  Out of 100 contacts of women whose collarme profiles indicate a possible match (local or willing to relocate, submissive, etc.), I will get 5% that respond.  Not all of them respond positively.



you get "you pathetic wretch" messages too? lolololol



No.  I get silence, or a "Thanks, but I'm not interested" types of response.  I've had a few rude responses but not many.








hopelessfool -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:17:33 PM)

Osf,

try having an actual profile...

I require nothing of anyone contacting me but i sure as hell have a hard limit of stupidity....




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:23:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

Osf,

try having an actual profile...

I require nothing of anyone contacting me but i sure as hell have a hard limit of stupidity....



meaning?




sweetsub1957 -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:30:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

In my case I’m reluctant to put myself in a position with a woman where I’m not sure of the outcome.

I can understand that.  I used to be that way all the time, but it got me nowhere fast.  To get what You want, You have to take a chance sometimes.  It can be kind of an ego-bruising, but the worst that can happen is she'll say "No."  I've heard that a number of times too.....




lizi -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:37:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

I'm not whineing, i was just stating my opinion on the psychological difficulties of dominants and submissive getting together and the roadblocks we put in each others way.

In my case I’m reluctant to put myself in a position with a woman where I’m not sure of the outcome.

When I’m in a relationship I’m always thinking of what may go wrong and prevent me from getting what I want and thinking of ways to prevent failure, I’m a goal oriented person. To accomplish this I like complete control or as much control as possible. When I’m not in control I’m more cautious in my approach especially in regards to women I don’t know. It’s not from a lack of confidence it’s more because of a state of uncertainty, I hate uncertainty.

I know this shatters the myth of the conquering dom storming in to overpower the helpless submissive.

All this boils down to that in a relationship I’m a more determined person, out of one i'm more cautious.

Confidence to me doesn’t mean you can over come all adversity but that you pick and choose the adversity you take on. I’m not a Don Quixoti dom.




The odds are not in the Dom's favor, that's just the way it is. Either you keep trying or you don't but you can't change the odds. If as you say you are reluctant to put yourself in a position with a woman where you are not sure of the outcome then you will be destined to be alone with the odds the way they are.
There's no way around the fact that you have to put up with the uncertainty that comes with looking for a partner. It seems rather simple...you just have to suck it up and do what you don't like doing in order to get what you want, or don't do it and never find what you're looking for.




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:45:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf

In my case I’m reluctant to put myself in a position with a woman where I’m not sure of the outcome.

I can understand that.  I used to be that way all the time, but it got me nowhere fast.  To get what You want, You have to take a chance sometimes.  It can be kind of an ego-bruising, but the worst that can happen is she'll say "No."  I've heard that a number of times too.....


reluctant not refusing




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:46:18 PM)

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The odds are not in the Dom's favor, that's just the way it is. Either you keep trying or you don't but you can't change the odds. If as you say you are reluctant to put yourself in a position with a woman where you are not sure of the outcome then you will be destined to be alone with the odds the way they are.
There's no way around the fact that you have to put up with the uncertainty that comes with looking for a partner. It seems rather simple...you just have to suck it up and do what you don't like doing in order to get what you want, or don't do it and never find what you're looking for.


in all the years i've, shall we say been associated with this, i have seen very few relationships succeed as ratio of successes to failures including mine.

the odds are not with either side, which is why i'm being more careful now




sweetsub1957 -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:49:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: osf

reluctant not refusing

I apologize.  I misunderstood.




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:49:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957

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ORIGINAL: osf

reluctant not refusing

I apologize.  I misunderstood.


misunderstanding is easy online




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:51:32 PM)

maybe i'm getting weary of all the fantasies that don't work and aiming for a reality solution
there's a whole lot of lack of reality here




hopelessfool -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 8:58:40 PM)

..you filled it in since i last perved you ^_^.. good job ^_^

anywho, It sucks on eitherside, just be patient and something will come and bite you on the ass in no time...

since ive taken to the, Im just here for friends and what happens happens stance, ive met some really cool people,

and people tend to be much more open to a sincere "hello, how are you today" email then a I perused your profile (no you really didnt) and i was wondering if *blah* (which is mentioned in the profile..)

anywho  just relax and send all those doms in search of a sub to pamper to my place ^_^




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 9:03:47 PM)

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and people tend to be much more open to a sincere "hello, how are you today" email then a I perused your profile (no you really didnt) and i was wondering if *blah* (which is mentioned in the profile..)


??????




osf -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 9:06:15 PM)

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.you filled it in since i last perved you ^_^.. good job ^_^


good bad or indeferent it's how i feel




QuirkyAnne -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/26/2009 9:22:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
Accept the fact that you will strike out 95% of the time.  I do.


You got a 5% hit rate?

Pretty good.

No, seriously- considering the small circle of BDSM oriented people, factor that females are less than 1/2, and submissive females about 1/2 of that, then figure geographical compatibility, age brackets, specific interests, and personality compatibility....


Being successful with 1 out of 20 girls is a pretty good average.


That was very enlightening, and at the same time...  So depressing.  [sm=banghead.gif]

Anne




SomethingCatchy -> RE: the trouble with doms (12/27/2009 2:46:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: osf


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

OP, I'm not sure what you mean about subs' requirements for contacting them. Sometimes the state that I must use a code word when I contact them - I have no problem with that.  Sometimes they state that I must have a pic - well, my profile has that already.

If such a request is simply stated, I'll comply.  If they say something like "I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF DOMS THAT WON'T DO WHAT I FUCKING SAY!!!!', then I don;t contact them.  But that's for attitude, not for any requirements.

So what kinds of requirements do you allude to?



the ones that say i have to be witty, intelligent and charming come to mind, i'm miserable at all three

as for me,i just want the hear what they have to say, but then i'm so desperate to have women contact me i'll accept anything



1) A woman feels confident enough in what she wants out of a man to post it up as a requirement (who the fuck wants to talk to boring people anyway?) and you complain about it...

2) You say you're desperate, but yet you're either too stupid or too stubborn to realize that that is most likely the entire problem right there.

3) You've been trolling and there really is no point to this thread except to humiliate yourself.

4) Perhaps you've gotten confused and equate dominance with insecurity. I have no idea how the hell that works out into a responsible, reasonable adult man that a woman would like to know, but if that's your reality, you are more than welcome to it.

ETA:

You're 65 and based on your posts I've been thinking you're 19, 20 based on the maturity level you've shown in everything you've written.

It's way past time to grow up, guy.




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